The Sibling Happy Hour: Supporting Basic Human Rights and the Most Attacked Community in America

00:10.91
Bruce Anthony
On today's episode is the sibling happy hour im with my sister Jay Andrea we're going to be talking about Zoe Zephyr a Vox article and another thing that I found on Instagram that I thought was funny. But first things first.

00:34.92
Bruce Anthony
What obsess and Ai n't nothing just out here just trying to deal with all this isms this that's out here in the world. All the isn't.

00:36.20
J. Aundrea
What a brother.

00:45.94
J. Aundrea
All the isms. Well you know what? you should do what I did this week which was ah volunteer some your time for a good cause I volunteered at the sandy springs solidarity food bank. Um, we served 196 families that day. Ah yeah, giving away groceries. It was like 1 of the best run food banks I've ever had a chance to work with I definitely want to go back and work with them again.

01:03.90
Bruce Anthony
That's whats up.

01:16.55
J. Aundrea
Ah, but you know sometimes you got put some good energy out into the world. Do some good. But honestly I just felt more fortunate to be there to work with all the people so you know maybe that'll help you deal with all the isms and schisms and blip black.

01:28.47
Bruce Anthony
That's beautiful.

01:33.49
Bruce Anthony
I Or or I can just drink enough about me enough about me. How are you doing all the people want to know how you feeling.

01:34.99
J. Aundrea
Bms or yeah I mean I guess um, you know.

01:50.61
J. Aundrea
I'm doing great I'm doing fantastic I Finally feel like I'm getting back to myself I Just have one third of the stomach I used to have and that means you know no seafood boils. Um. You know going to red lobster getting that lobster Lingui. That's not gonna happen. Um lot of things I Love just you know, but part of like ah like a cool part is that I don't feel like physically hungry.

02:07.93
Bruce Anthony
I.

02:21.98
J. Aundrea
It's all just like I'm mentally hungry I see things and I'm like damn show. Wish I could have it.

02:26.55
Bruce Anthony
So you know with Covid a lot of people lost their sense of taste and some people contrary to what other people out there think Covid in gone.

02:32.42
J. Aundrea
So.

02:38.18
J. Aundrea
Now. Yeah.

02:39.96
Bruce Anthony
It's still ah the thing people are still catching it and there are still people that are suffering from the effects of having covid it's called long covid. It's a thing but some people still haven't gotten their sense of taste back a year two years later and they say they don't necessarily.

02:45.66
J. Aundrea
Yes.

02:51.58
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

02:56.61
Bruce Anthony
Miss the taste of things but the way they solve that problem if they do is just texture like it. They say it's we're chomping on a steak or chewing a piece of gum and just not tasting anything.

03:04.54
J. Aundrea
Just.

03:11.69
J. Aundrea
Just yeah yeah.

03:14.77
Bruce Anthony
So it's it's like our our memory is telling us yo you used to enjoy this and like so that's what I think that when you see that you're like yo. That's you're not you don't want it but you want it but you don't want it but you want it? Yeah yeah.

03:24.51
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, but you do yeah like I would love to chomp down on like just a stake but like I think about how my body will actually feel which is not great. Let me tell you some you put just a a spoonful of Apple sauce in the stomach and I'm done I like I'm down for the count. So like the idea of eating a steak I know I feel so bad doing it that I don't want to but at the same time if I see a advertisement for Ruth Chris I'm like mm.

03:51.69
Bruce Anthony
Um.

03:57.22
Bruce Anthony
Um.

04:02.47
J. Aundrea
So look nice.

04:03.10
Bruce Anthony
You know, did you do your your big plan for the mashed potatoes and this sweet potato casserole.

04:11.10
J. Aundrea
So yes I did make the mash potatoes. So here's the problem I made that ricotta bake and I got like 5 little ramekins of it and I I ate like half a 1 and it didn't sit in my stomach right? So now I was just.

04:15.80
Bruce Anthony
A.

04:29.20
J. Aundrea
Is us a bunch of half -eaen things in my fridge like half -eaen appleauce half- eaten ah little cup. Everything's in little tiny cups and it's about half eaten and that's my fridge for the first time really in years is full but it's not.

04:38.50
Bruce Anthony
A.

04:48.57
J. Aundrea
That can't I get a couple spoonfuls and I'm like I Well guess I put this in the fridge. Yeah.

04:53.85
Bruce Anthony
Hard then are then I guess I'm a head out. Ah, how are you feeling physically because I know that you were saying that like you felt tired.

05:02.10
J. Aundrea
Yeah, I'm getting my energy back. Um, you got to keep up with your Multivitamins. You can't play that game like you're not getting any nutrients by and large because your focus is on getting protein. And so that's really all I think about is getting protein protein protein Protein. So Everything else is like you're not getting it so you got to keep up with your vitamins. Ah you just got to be more strict I have to be more strict than I've ever had to be um, but it's nice that it like.

05:22.33
Bruce Anthony
Here.

05:36.53
J. Aundrea
Forces you to like if I don't then I'll be tired if I don't then you know I'll be in pain so it just like forces you to do better for yourself. So well. Some people some other people y'all be sabotaging yourselves I see y'all in my little.

05:49.34
Bruce Anthony
Um.

05:54.10
Bruce Anthony
They out there sabotage themselves.

05:54.63
J. Aundrea
Facebook groups. Yeah, it's just sat just sabotage it I had a little pizza the other day not feel terrible where you shouldn't a come on now you know what's going on who like hate.

06:04.28
Bruce Anthony
Um.

06:12.84
J. Aundrea
Ah, anybody else eating pudding cups and all kind of you know what? like come on man.

06:13.74
Bruce Anthony
Some people. Yeah some people don't you said that you got to have that discipline and that belief and do it because Ai n't no half stepping on this one. The quote big daddy Kain ain't no half.

06:26.67
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, nope and ah because there's a guy in my own my Facebook group he just posted today four months postop down one hundred and twenty eight pounds like that's insane. Yeah.

06:32.35
Bruce Anthony
Step in.

06:43.94
J. Aundrea
He looked fantastic. He was half of himself. He was insane. Yeah, but.

06:44.99
Bruce Anthony
Yeah that's beautiful I haven't we I want to detour a little bit now for the people out there and and the listening audience and the watching audience by the way. Watch us on Youtube we got all tapes of shorts and short clips from different episodes if you don't have the time to watch the full episode there are there are clips from different episodes on there and shorts. Um, so go ahead and and check us out at youtube.com backslas unsolicited perspectives. But. As I detour and I and I'd send my sister down a rabbit hole of just me personally with no show prep I had a really interesting conversation this week now the people I'm about to talk about listen to the show I'm not going to put your names out there. But.

07:26.81
J. Aundrea
M.

07:32.81
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

07:36.29
Bruce Anthony
I Thought this was interesting and I want to get your perspective on it. So I have a friend of mine that has a business and as you know I had a consultant but I I did something that I helped people.

07:38.20
J. Aundrea
Art.

07:55.24
Bruce Anthony
At a very very low price Irs a very low price whether that I helped them with businesses right? I helped them start businesses I would help with the formation in the lllc and build websites up for them help them out with the marketing because I'm good at that now.

07:59.98
J. Aundrea
Um, okay, yeah, yeah.

08:14.54
Bruce Anthony
There's something out there and in the world where a lot of influencers are doing business coaching so I had a friend of mine who has their own business who who has had their own business for quite some time and it's successful. They're they're making a very good living off of this business.

08:18.57
J. Aundrea
E.

08:34.16
Bruce Anthony
And I was like um, you don't have a website. No I have brochures and business cards I was like okay but you are a formalized company right? Yes and you have a logo. Yeah and you should create a website. Oh could you do it for me at first because they're my friend and I know how much I cost.

08:45.99
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

08:53.29
Bruce Anthony
Was like look let me send you materials. Maybe you could do it yourself because I don't because they're my friend I don't like doing business with friends right? because I know what I charge for my services and it's absolutely worth it. But it's different when it's a consumer.

08:58.98
J. Aundrea
Um, over yeah.

09:12.41
Bruce Anthony
As opposed to that consumer as your friend. There's it. There's as just a different bit of something in there that I that I'm uncomfortable with yeah yes, yes, and I and so she was like ah they damn it our says she.

09:12.48
J. Aundrea
You right.

09:17.97
J. Aundrea
Yeah, it's icky. It's uncomfortable charging your friends full price. Yes.

09:30.81
Bruce Anthony
They were like um okay I sent them all the information and I was like have you looked it over yet. No and it had been two weeks and I said I'll do it for you. Okay, yeah, we really appreciate that and I was like I ah I gonna give you a discount. This is how much is gonna cost.

09:45.90
J. Aundrea
M.

09:48.75
Bruce Anthony
And how long is it goingnna take I said what do you want for your website. You just want a basic storefront? Yeah, okay, that's gonna take me four or five hours because I'm had to do some of the copywriting ah or the copy not the copy copy. So that's what's gonna take me to long. Yeah I'm had to write the copy. So that's what's going to take me the longest.

09:58.54
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah, you're gonna have to write the copy.

10:07.13
Bruce Anthony
But I was like you have a brochure so I have a starting point and you have pictures obviously because you had the brochure go ahead and send that to me send me the logo on all this other stuff. So when I get it. It's you know I did something similar a couple of weeks ago where I just woke up one morning and started a new company.

10:17.69
J. Aundrea
Oh.

10:23.25
Bruce Anthony
And I created a logo but the logo was like let me just get something out there to put it on the website I can always change it later but let me just get something out there that that's semi-professional and so I'm looking at the logo that they had and I was like there isn't much difference between these 2 logos and I created my logo in 5 minutes

10:27.71
J. Aundrea
Right. Right.

10:42.35
Bruce Anthony
So I said to them I said um, did you pay somebody for this Yes I paid a business coach for the logo, the brochure and the business cards I said okay I'm just curious how much they charge you. They told me what they charged.

10:46.50
J. Aundrea
Oh.

11:01.70
Bruce Anthony
And and the rate for me it. It wasn't dissimilar right? but it was the amount of hours that were charged and the overall price and I was like ah and the fact the person was young like the person was in their twenty s not saying that young people aren't about their businesses and don't know.

11:08.12
J. Aundrea
Yeah, um.

11:14.62
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

11:21.12
Bruce Anthony
What they're doing I'm not saying that cause there's some twenty year olds out there that are way better than me when it comes to business coaching right? because this younger generation knows how to hustle I felt like that that I felt like my friend was overcharged by the business person and the business person is also their friend as well.

11:26.13
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:37.74
J. Aundrea
And.

11:40.50
Bruce Anthony
Okay I said I would have done this I said here's my logo that I created just a couple of weeks ago oh that's good yet. It took me 5 minutes like it. It's not so dissimilar I was like if I was gonna create your logo it would I have a vision and this is what what it would be well that sounds real nice.

11:47.73
J. Aundrea
Year.

12:00.38
Bruce Anthony
Ah, created the website. They love the website. Um, and so I was talking to another friend of mine who's actually a business professor and we got into the conversation of services and goods and pricing.

12:14.80
J. Aundrea
M.

12:17.65
Bruce Anthony
And I told the story of when I first got into personal training and how there was an older woman that was a personal trainer. She was 50 I was 25 So I'm half her age and she asked me. Do you see clients outside of this gym. And I was like yeah of course I do she was like well what do you charge and I told her what I charged and she was like that's what I charge I don't feel like you should be able to charge that and it was based off of you know I've been doing this a lot longer I don't feel like you should be able to charge what I charge and I was completely offended because I was like you might have been doing this longer but I'm better like like.

12:44.33
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

12:50.60
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

12:53.30
Bruce Anthony
You know I'm better when Lebron James came into the league not saying I'm lebron James a personal trainer but man yeah I kind of am um when Lebron James came into the league. There are people that had been playing longer but yet weren't as good as him so experience has something to do with it. But.

12:58.99
J. Aundrea
That.

13:06.46
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

13:12.69
Bruce Anthony
Like your ability is is ultimately what you would charge for services I caught myself because at the same time I'm finding out that this young lady who calls herself a business coach charged My friend I was like I don't think that she should be able to charge it that was before I saw her work though.

13:14.53
J. Aundrea
Right.

13:28.98
J. Aundrea
And.

13:30.94
Bruce Anthony
And then I was like oh I'm doing the same thing that that woman did to me years back then I saw the work and I was like oh absolutely shouldn't have been able to charge this so it's funny how I respect Gen Z so much I respect their hustle there.

13:38.49
J. Aundrea
Yes. M.

13:49.77
Bruce Anthony
Really ambitious when it comes to pricing their services. Yes.

13:52.91
J. Aundrea
But they're getting that from Capitalism right? because I mean what you're what you're describing. Yeah what you charge. Yeah, your experience should have something to do with it. The value ad that you can bring. To something. You know how good you are the ash something to do with it. But also you can charge what people are going to pay you know so she got paid for that work I mean.

14:16.69
Bruce Anthony
Yep, that's true.

14:20.47
Bruce Anthony
And not to say that it wasn't good work like okay yeah, no, you came out with a brochure and business cards and you created a logo the hours. The amount of hours that you charge for it I think were.

14:24.48
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

14:39.75
Bruce Anthony
You overcharged and I actually worked longer cause this is my friend I charged her for a certain amount of hours I actually worked longer than I charged her for and I gave her a discount because this is my friend and I was like this isn't gonna take me this long. It took me two days

14:40.94
J. Aundrea
Um, what? but you don't actually.

14:53.81
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

14:59.32
Bruce Anthony
Had it done in two days right so it wasn't gonna take me this long to do I had time this week to do it and like I'm helping out a friend. Um, if it was a stranger they would have got the full rate and I might have charged the extra hour. Just.

15:07.61
J. Aundrea
Yeah, um.

15:16.55
Bruce Anthony
For it because I didn't I didn't factor in just sitting around thinking about it which is strategizing and design and that's also ours and I'm putting into it. But yeah you you you charge? What people will pay.

15:20.93
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah and I mean just because it took you 5 me, you're also looking at it in reference to yourself. So you have decades of experience with building businesses. We don't know how much experience her other friend has so just because it would take you 5 minutes to build that logo doesn't necessarily mean that it would take her 5 minutes to build that logo ah or to design the brochure. It might have taken her longer to brainstorm these things to come up with the design.

15:50.38
Bruce Anthony
That's true. That's true.

15:57.67
Bruce Anthony
Um, a.

16:00.15
J. Aundrea
She might have not just given her just that logo but also the source file the vector image. All of the there's it's a p and g it's a Jpeg. It's I mean well, but you but their point is yeah um.

16:06.62
Bruce Anthony
No, no, no because I used a logo for the website now. No.

16:18.66
J. Aundrea
But you until you sit there and watch that person work. Whatever their process is I mean you don't know but um, but I mean as long as a consumer is happy with what they spent their money on.

16:28.54
Bruce Anthony
You're right.

16:36.67
Bruce Anthony
Her business is successful. Yeah, actually she paid what she paid and actually I don't think at any point this is a really nice person. My friend is a really, It's one one of the sweetest. Yeah well no, no, no, just.

16:36.84
J. Aundrea
And her business is successful and it is working for her. She paid what she paid.

16:50.62
J. Aundrea
Well I would hope So yeah.

16:56.14
Bruce Anthony
Just so really so one of the sweetest people that you can meet just genuinely just nice to everybody like in all the years I've known her I've never known her to say a bad word about anybody even people that cross her I'm like you know you can You could say a bad word about somebody that cross you they they cross you you.

16:57.90
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

17:11.75
J. Aundrea
Gray she trying to get to heaven. She trying to get to heaven. Don't yeah.

17:15.23
Bruce Anthony
You could talk issue about them or she gonna go to heaven. She gonna go to heaven. Um, but I don't think that she even thought about the way I came at it and and so and I was and you know me like I my I don't hide.

17:25.83
J. Aundrea
M.

17:33.53
Bruce Anthony
What I feel my facial expressions like I don't have a poker face. So I know when I asked her I was like so did you pay for that logo and and and she was like yeah I was like I know I made a face like ah.

17:35.20
J. Aundrea
Right.

17:50.51
Bruce Anthony
So so what all came with it. Well it was a business coach helping with everything I was like helped you with everything like what with the business cards and the brochures and all that and I was like oh car. How much did they charge if you don't mind me asking how many hours did they work. Oh.

18:03.25
J. Aundrea
I mean was was that the only thing that they did did They also buys did they provide advice. Did they consult did they.

18:08.11
Bruce Anthony
The logo to brochures. My friend did say that helped with pricing helped with pricing. So yes, Okay, yes.

18:20.77
J. Aundrea
Which is one of the hardest things to come up with is the price of your of your work. Yeah.

18:25.49
Bruce Anthony
Sometimes really really when you're starting a business if there are other businesses like yours especially in the area you take all the prices that that other people have you look at the lowest you look at the highest and you want to land somewhere in the middle. That's.

18:33.80
J. Aundrea
No.

18:41.83
J. Aundrea
Yeah, well yeah I mean you get the comps but then at the same time like you know I'm a photographer. It's hard for me to judge how much my work is worth.

18:45.54
Bruce Anthony
That's that's where you want to start.

18:56.94
J. Aundrea
In comparison to other photographers because our styles are different.

19:00.53
Bruce Anthony
Okay, that's something where the work is subjective I'm talking about Brick and Martyr type of services like personal training or dog walking or um.

19:02.10
J. Aundrea
Right. Got you.

19:12.85
J. Aundrea
M. Love her.

19:17.77
Bruce Anthony
Personal shopping right? like those aren't subjective. Those are those are a service That's that's kind of not even creative right? Like what you're doing is creative. So it it's it's art. That's that's a little bit different. That's all subjective.

19:27.13
J. Aundrea
Right.

19:34.13
J. Aundrea
I mean it can be Sometimes it's just head shots and you just turn and burn those suckers.

19:39.24
Bruce Anthony
Well I mean even with head shots don't act like you haven't seen bad head shots before and was like what did your photography What your photographer do.

19:43.50
J. Aundrea
I have I have let me tell you if they tell you to put that hand under the Chin just gone go home because you are about to get some dated headshots.

20:09.90
Bruce Anthony
Allis enough with the shenanigans. Let's get to some real stuff I'm Goingnna mispronounce her name again. Zoe Zephyr I don't know why I want to say za far or Safari or whatever. Well.

20:11.80
J. Aundrea
I Zephyr.

20:22.63
J. Aundrea
It's literally spelled Phonetically Z fur.

20:26.54
Bruce Anthony
it's a lot of yeah it's a lot of z's and then there's a ph in the middle and then a a why and there's no I so it's confused anyway. Zephyr Zoe Zephyr yes I know let's get to it Zoe Zephyr

20:35.10
J. Aundrea
I think I think you know that PH isn't has an f sound though Bruce I think yes, she's a democrat in the.

20:45.26
Bruce Anthony
Is a congress woman. Yes, she's a congresswoman Mark yes, who is also transgender and as you know all throughout these red states.

20:53.28
J. Aundrea
Montana house of representatives. Yes.

21:04.55
Bruce Anthony
Red states because that that's not me attacking ah republicans it's it's a fact these are happening in Red States and all of these red states. There's a bunch of antitrans laws Montana just passed one as I'm reading the article because she got censored and.

21:10.55
J. Aundrea
Yes, yes.

21:24.18
Bruce Anthony
Basically it's compared to the same thing that the Tennessee guys got but not really the Tennessee guys that were kicked out the Jj's the Jj's they were kicked out. They were literally expelled from.

21:32.69
J. Aundrea
The Justins yes, yes. Yes.

21:41.69
Bruce Anthony
House She was not she was censored which means that she can never speak on the house floor again. Well during the term and the term is up actually tomorrow but couldn't speak on a house a floor again could not do votes.

21:51.93
J. Aundrea
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21:59.31
Bruce Anthony
And person had to do them virtually? Um, so they basically silenced her and I was like all right? Okay, so so what did she do does she do exactly what the Justins did or the Jjs did where they're protesting they and then she joined the protesters in the in the house.

22:03.30
J. Aundrea
Yes.

22:16.78
J. Aundrea
Pretty similar.

22:18.89
Bruce Anthony
No, no, but she didn't do that What she did was is as she was speaking against the bill on the floor as is her right? because she followed procedure What she did was say if you guys pass this bill. There'll be blood on your hands.

22:27.96
J. Aundrea
Um, right.

22:35.68
J. Aundrea
Yeah, which is not an exaggeration.

22:38.83
Bruce Anthony
And it it and that's what she said? It's not exaggeration. This bill will lead to suicides which for some strange reason All these Anti-trans bills that people keep passing that that they say are for the kids. They're obviously not for the kids because the the suicide rate for Trans. Children is higher than any demographic. It's just not even close So You're not about saving the kids you about control but never I'll get into that later. But so I'm looking at it and I'm like okay what else does she do. That's.

23:00.40
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

23:07.77
J. Aundrea
Correct.

23:17.36
Bruce Anthony
All she did now they tried to say because of the words that she said that she was inciting the protesters.

23:25.52
J. Aundrea
Well the um, they refused to call on her after that. So there were protesters in the bill been the building who started chanting let her speak and she held up her microphone. You know. As a sort of a symbol to amplify their voices and then what what of course republicans because this is again another house that is ah republicans have a supermajority. Um, they said that she was inciting an insurrection so sort of like that same kind of language that you heard. Around the Justins in Tennessee. Um.

24:03.33
Bruce Anthony
But once again she was silenced because they had a problem with her saying there'll be blood on your hands and and ladies and gentlemen pay attention to what I'm doing here I'm not doing it for effect I'm doing it out of respect. She is trans.

24:07.30
J. Aundrea
Yes.

24:23.31
Bruce Anthony
Which means that she is transitioned from what people from male to female is is the simplest elementary term and um, um, elemental way to explain it. It's more to it than just that.

24:30.35
J. Aundrea
Yes.

24:41.60
Bruce Anthony
But for the Layman's out there. She's transitioning from male to female. She identifies as a female she identifies with the pronouns she and her I'm specifically calling her her because.

24:46.64
J. Aundrea
Yes. M.

24:58.58
Bruce Anthony
That's what she identifies as if you decide to change your name and you go from James to superfly I might think that's dumb as hell but you know what out of respect for you. You changed your name.

25:01.10
J. Aundrea
That's what she is.

25:10.29
J. Aundrea
M.

25:17.97
Bruce Anthony
I'm not going to call you James anymore your superfly. Youre no longer class you are malcolm x you are no more so out of respect.

25:18.10
J. Aundrea
I will call you Muhammad Ali you are no longer casses clay youre Muhammad Ali Malcolm little

25:33.68
Bruce Anthony
I'm going to call people what they want to be called another another congressperson refused to do that So who is really inciting exciting inciting and exciting this this right? This group of protesters.

25:35.11
J. Aundrea
M.

25:49.67
J. Aundrea
Um, both.

25:53.16
Bruce Anthony
Is it The person that's being silent just raising up a microphone because they recognize that what you're doing is wrong and the people recognize what you're doing is wrong or the people who are spitting in these protesters face by not acknowledging zoe's.

26:10.70
J. Aundrea
Her basic humanity just the the bare minimum. You can do is to call her by her name and to give her the bear that's the bare minimum. You can do to acknowledge just the.

26:10.70
Bruce Anthony
Human right? Basic humanity.

26:29.15
J. Aundrea
Basic humanity of people correct.

26:31.10
Bruce Anthony
And I'm I'm still trying to wrap my head around why this bothers people so much now I kind of get it because me and you and ah and personal behind the scenes and I'll let a lot of the audience know Because. I Can't do a show and interview people and to have them talk about their lives and not put personal stuff about myself out there in my younger years growing up as a you know what? I'm not even going to put it on that just growing up in this country.

26:55.78
J. Aundrea
M.

27:06.74
Bruce Anthony
And not being around a lot of people that were part of the lgbtq community because I didn't know a lot about it I was absolutely homophobic and transphobic absolutely couldn't understand it.

27:10.31
J. Aundrea
Community.

27:21.88
J. Aundrea
Um.

27:25.37
Bruce Anthony
I Won't say I I went I I would go so far as to say hate because I'm really not a person that that hates in general but would not hesitate to say some derogate derogatory right? It wasn't until I started working in the restaurant business and.

27:30.31
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah. M.

27:43.10
Bruce Anthony
I Started working with people in this community that whatever lack of understanding and it was ignorance. Whatever ignorance I had I was now learning about the community and out out of learning about the Community. No longer begin to I don't know if the right word is afraid or fearful or whatever or maybe a combination and all those things but I realize oh y'all are people just like me like we might our lifestyles are a little different but.

28:09.90
J. Aundrea
M.

28:14.37
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

28:20.24
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

28:20.74
Bruce Anthony
Y'all are the same So I understand and ah at a real elemental level. Why there's such pushback from people because one they they don't have a lot of interaction with the Lgbtq community. Right? And if you don't have a lot of air and action with the Lgbt Q Community Then you're completely ignorant to those people right? and we see this across the board and all groups right? If you don't have a lot of interaction with muslim people or Jewish people or Italian people or Irish people or black people. You don't understand.

28:43.32
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

28:54.99
Bruce Anthony
Then you don't understand you have a ignorance of them and the only thing that you have to identify with people is media and I would get to that later on. But so at an and elemental level I understand the the I don't understand this part.

28:55.48
J. Aundrea
Humble.

29:14.69
Bruce Anthony
Right? Like I get that you wouldn't understand it because you're ignorant to it. It's the point now that you don't have to be ignorant to it right? You can learn about this community. You can interact in this community because these communities are all. It's in every state.

29:24.37
J. Aundrea
You're right.

29:30.22
J. Aundrea
Yes, yeah, yeah.

29:31.74
Bruce Anthony
And every district in every county and every city right? No matter where you are the Lgbt Community Community is there so you can interact with this community and learn if you so choose so it stops being ignorant. It just becomes being dumb.

29:38.91
J. Aundrea
Right.

29:49.84
Bruce Anthony
And I don't understand why people are so adamant about being so dumb and those people that try to bring religion into it. Let me explain to you something to you The Lgbt Q Community has been here since the beginning of man time and when I say man I'm generalizing I shouldn't be generalizing.

30:01.39
J. Aundrea
Yes.

30:07.65
J. Aundrea
Oh yeah.

30:07.79
Bruce Anthony
Since the beginning of person. They've been here. So yeah, like this aggravates me and another aspect of what aggravates me about this is the totem pole. Do you understand what I mean by that.

30:22.20
J. Aundrea
The hierarchy.

30:26.92
Bruce Anthony
Yes, so ah, one of my favorite comedians did a standup and in the standup he told some Trans jokes and he got some backlash for it because they were kind of distasteful, especially considering the fact that.

30:36.13
J. Aundrea
M.

30:46.89
Bruce Anthony
Trans community is that the is in the cross hairs of politicians right now he could have come back I'm talking about da Chappelle could have came back and did a special and just been like hey I didn't mean in the offense I make jokes on everybody and in that it it.

30:49.93
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

31:05.14
Bruce Anthony
Probably will have been well received if he had done that special to make jokes about everybody and included jokes about transgender Then maybe you don't get the backlash maybe but he decided double Down. He decided to double down as a black man to say don't you punch down at me. Completely ignoring The fact that there is a huge amount of black people in the Lgbt Q Q Community. There's a lot of lot of black transgender people and out of the transgender people that are committed suicide which is already a high number the highest group.

31:29.27
J. Aundrea
Oh.

31:42.18
J. Aundrea
Oh.

31:42.44
Bruce Anthony
Are black Trans people so instead of acknowledging that he doubles down and he doubles down by telling a story that a lot of white people would tell when they say they're not Racist. He tells a story about his his Trans friend that committed Suicide. And it was basically like I'm not racist I have black friends Some of my best friends are black.

32:07.83
J. Aundrea
Yeah, it absolutely was not the flex that he thought it was um, he made several remarks about how this person would laugh at themselves they would make the joke first themselves. Um, about being trans and then they go on to commit suicide and to just have such a lack of understanding of the connection between those 2 things. No it was fine. We would all joke about it. They would joke about it themselves. And then they committed suicide and if you cannot see the connection or correlation or causation. Whatever you want to call it between those 2 things you are is absolutely obtuse and so the flex that he thought it was it felt completely flat with me. But. Get get him back to your point with Zoe Zephyr sorry I'd sad to input that.

33:03.53
Bruce Anthony
It fell flat. It was ignorant and then what do people who are insecure. What do most of them. Do they joke on themselves to take away being joked on by other people if I if I say the joke first if I do the the rabbit from Eight mile and do like m and m.

33:14.95
J. Aundrea
Yes.

33:23.37
Bruce Anthony
And say all the bad stuff about me first you can't say anything and so when I was watching Zoe I was like there's not really a whole bunch of national news on this that it it was not the national news story to what happened? what.

33:25.64
J. Aundrea
When.

33:35.00
J. Aundrea
M.

33:41.99
Bruce Anthony
Justin's there's a slight difference that she was kind of allowed to stay and they were absolutely kicked out but nevertheless it's the same thing right? and and and and their actions were not egregious at all but more in line with.

33:42.73
J. Aundrea
You're right.

33:50.35
J. Aundrea
You know? yeah.

34:01.49
Bruce Anthony
Being protesters than she was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay so neither see this is what I'm trying to say neither events were actually bad. But if one was going to perceive. Ah, that's not a good look.

34:02.85
J. Aundrea
Break in the rules of decorum. Certainly yeah, no neither events were an insurrection but.

34:15.14
J. Aundrea
No.

34:20.76
Bruce Anthony
Over the other what they did wasn't a good look compared to what she did. That's what I'm trying to say what they did was a little more egregious in what she did, but there was so much national coverage on that and then I realized I said oh okay see.

34:23.86
J. Aundrea
M.

34:31.70
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

34:38.82
Bruce Anthony
And that totem pole black folks though we still get shitted on right? but on that totem pole brown people Latino people had had had already I don't know if it's jumped a total poll but they got it on.

34:41.98
J. Aundrea
M.

34:57.54
J. Aundrea
Me.

34:58.20
Bruce Anthony
More than we did because they had the there was a whole president that came down an escalator that ran his campaign off of their killers and rapists. So right then I knew I was like oh we got it bad but they're getting it. Bad bad.

35:06.20
J. Aundrea
Yeah, right.

35:13.23
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

35:16.40
Bruce Anthony
But this but this situation where Zoe showed me oh the trans community not not the lgpt q community as a whole right? Not as a whole I'm specifically talking about transgender people because those are the people in that community are being attacked right? They are the lowest.

35:23.65
J. Aundrea
Who knows now.

35:30.66
J. Aundrea
And.

35:35.27
Bruce Anthony
On a totem pole right now because as bad as CRT was as bad as CRT was and as bad as them trying to repeal some of these voting rights for minorities and minority districts and things like that they are all out trying to ban being transgender.

35:54.79
J. Aundrea
Yes, that they're trying to erase us from history. Um.

35:54.81
Bruce Anthony
And they't try to ban us being black since ah 18 something 1912 they're trying they're trying to write. They're not trying to racist us from history. They're trying to erase talking about us from history. Yes.

36:09.66
J. Aundrea
They're trying to erase their accountability for us and toward us. Yes.

36:14.70
Bruce Anthony
But they are trying they're trying to completely erase a whole segment of the population and I was like oh they're the lowest on the total pole now this is not getting the national coverage that the Justin Scott hardly anybody really knows about it that I that I talked to was like what what's going on I'm like yet in Montana.

36:28.33
J. Aundrea
No.

36:32.65
Bruce Anthony
Transgender Congresswoman being kicked out and then I was like oh she must have did the same thing. The Justice did no no, she didn't not even close so that's that's what I got from this and it it maybe even a little bit more upset.

36:41.24
J. Aundrea
No no. Ah.

36:50.93
J. Aundrea
Yeah I mean support just like anything else is hierarchical. You know, um, we're still very much in a place where we where very little support is given to Trans folks in our community. Um.

37:08.54
J. Aundrea
I mean very few f's are given about Trans lives and and we already know that we live in a country that doesn't protect children so to talk about then gender affirming care for Trans Youth. No.

37:28.70
Bruce Anthony
Well, they do protect ah children and those that are not watching the video put that in quotations as long as you haven't been born yet.

37:34.73
J. Aundrea
Yeah, as long as you haven't been born then they'll they'll protect you boy with a gun they they will kill your mother to protect you.

37:44.31
Bruce Anthony
They'll they'll protect you? Yes, that's what I'm going to say it was like your life is so important that the person that was bringing you into this world's life is nowhere near as important as your life. You are more important than that.

37:59.80
J. Aundrea
But there is no um, there is no real fear of transgender folks. There's no real fear of transgender folks. This is um.

38:16.14
J. Aundrea
Look punching down. Um this is there has to be a most vulnerable community that we can both exploit and oppress and.

38:16.17
Bruce Anthony
3

38:32.53
J. Aundrea
The fact that children are out here fighting for their lives. Not not even just try honestly just children in general in this country are fighting for their lives. But but that there are Trans children Trans and gender nonconforming children out there that are really just.

38:38.48
Bruce Anthony
Chair. Yeah.

38:51.42
J. Aundrea
Fighting for their lives. Um, because as you said the suicide rate among Trans Youth is heartbreaking. Um, but yeah, like ah like everything else right now. The people that we care the very least about and you can barely find any what I mean it's It's fashionable to stand behind black people right? It's fashionable to a certain extent to say black lives matter because there are.

39:22.87
Bruce Anthony
Um, to a certain extent. Yeah yeah.

39:29.81
J. Aundrea
People on the other side who are such fervent foaming at the mouth racists that to stand in opposition to them I mean you feel like you're Martin Luther King like you they they love it. They love being able to be on social media.

39:33.69
Bruce Anthony
A.

39:47.87
J. Aundrea
And say I am not this kind of white or I am that like is is a certain thing of like right where it's fashionable. It's fashionable. But I yes this is a very like you know, dangerous minds kind of.

39:54.80
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, this eyes on the prize too this eyes on the prize part 2

40:06.91
J. Aundrea
I You know the white savior type of thing.

40:06.96
Bruce Anthony
Um, oh man Michelle Fier catch a strays.

40:12.99
J. Aundrea
It was It was what it was okay I'm not saying dangerous spies with a good movie I'll say it was highly unrealistic I don't give a damn. She's an exmarine. She just gonna come in there with some poetry and get caption. Her hearts and minds.

40:15.87
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, yeah, yes, ah okay.

40:32.11
J. Aundrea
Of kids with real life things going on at home or once they step out of that school building that she really didn't try to get to know anything about so it's like you just not. You know.

40:41.98
Bruce Anthony
Get okay all right all right? okay.

40:50.58
J. Aundrea
Just not feeling it. But I mean that's true I mean ah she um, went to court on Monday to try to get her censure overturned the judge rejected it the next day so

41:09.50
J. Aundrea
Yeah, this is gonna be a hard one just because you know pose is popular on television right now doesn't mean that the Trans girlies and boys are not out here still very much fighting for their lives like you can look up.

41:25.73
Bruce Anthony
A.

41:25.78
J. Aundrea
The murder rates specifically for black trans women. Um they have targets on their back and you don't need to interact with a community to know that that that shit Ai n't right

41:41.33
Bruce Anthony
You don't need to interact with community to have just a little empathy for their struggle now in a very poorly set up sec way J as I queue up.

41:49.64
J. Aundrea
Correct.

42:00.15
J. Aundrea
And.

42:00.16
Bruce Anthony
Since we're talking about racism as I queue up the video. Do you want to talk a little bit tell the people a little bit about what you sent to me.

42:07.89
J. Aundrea
So I sent you. It was actually ah a Tiktok It was a clip from the from a study done by the yale child study center and it was on vox's Tiktok and it's essentially. Um, four preschool age children sitting around a table playing together with toys and they have um preschool teachers in another room watching them on video and they're trying to see you know can you pinpoint any. Any misbehavior among these students. Um, but it was kind of a trick so it was actually the okay you're gonna okay, all right, all right? All right? I mean all right.

42:49.26
Bruce Anthony
I'm I'm Goingnna play the video don't Don don't spoil the video I'm gonna play it for yeah I'll go play it because it's a short clip but I just said give a little introductionction you you telling them the whole clip take a look at these four kids.

42:59.32
J. Aundrea
Well.

43:03.51
Bruce Anthony
These preschool teachers watched a video of them playing for a sixteen study. The study asked them to press the enter key every time they saw a behavior that could become a potential challenge but the thing about the study is it's kind of deceptive. There's actually no misbehavior in the video. The kids. Are actors and the researchers were using eye tracking software because what they really wanted to know was when teachers expect misbehavior who are they watching the study found that both white and black teachers spent more time gazing at black boys than other children. Black boys make up less than a quarter of the nation's preschoolers but more than 40% of Preschool Suspensions ah studies lee researcher told the Washington post that implicit biases don't begin with black men and police. They begin with black preschoolers and their teachers if not earlier so a couple of episodes ago. I talked about and I don't remember I'm doing so many of these shows y'all, please forgive me, y'all might know better than I do because some of y'all tell me you remember when you said on this show. No I do not remember what I say on these shows I'm recording for a week I don't remember but I know I said it on a previous episode that ah the media.

44:02.10
J. Aundrea
I.

44:14.64
Bruce Anthony
Is a large part of the framing of stereotypes that we have in America and the media brain washes you this is what I mean by that it would tell you that every black man is a danger to you.

44:20.31
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

44:31.58
J. Aundrea
Me.

44:33.52
Bruce Anthony
That will hurt you Rob you kill you rape you. It tells you that every italian person is part of the mafia it tells you that every jewish person loves money. It'll tell you that every irish person has a nasty temper and beats their wives.

44:46.73
J. Aundrea
Smooth.

44:49.30
Bruce Anthony
And he'll tell you that every muslim person straps a bomb to their back or or leaves bombs underneath Plane Ah, ah, not plane stations. Plane stations isn't a thing but bus stations in the airports right.

44:59.94
J. Aundrea
So to me on plane stations.

45:03.55
Bruce Anthony
Okay, plane stations. That's what it is the media and how they portray different groups of people are how certain people who are it goes back to the to the point where if you if you're not interacting with a certain community. The only thing that you have to know about this community is how they're portrayed on television.

45:20.00
J. Aundrea
And.

45:23.70
Bruce Anthony
And if you go back to Tv's first television show. The villains were always black. You were always taught to fear black people if you watch Fox News you would swear to god that black people are the only 1 men any black and brown that black and brown people are the only ones commit any type of Crown. So if you're constantly watching the the Fox News the news max the the oes still to this day right? because media has been portraying black people as the monsters you'll actually believe that and.

45:43.13
J. Aundrea
And.

45:59.35
Bruce Anthony
That brainwashing just doesn't happen with white people happens in her own community because I will tell you that there are sometimes when I'm walking down the streets and and Washington DC and there's a couple of young black men and I'm in a kind of a rough area because Dc is some good some bad.

46:00.75
J. Aundrea
Yes.

46:18.41
Bruce Anthony
I Get a little tense I get a little I brace up because you never know what to expect now part of that is I'm street smart So it doesn't matter if I'm walking down streams a whole bunch of black guys if I'm walking down the street a whole bunch of white guys or Spanish guys if a whole bunch of guys I'm going tense up.

46:31.88
J. Aundrea
M.

46:34.72
Bruce Anthony
But you would think I would give my people the benefit of a doubt but also the media has portrayed a group of black guys as being a gang that's going to attack me.

46:39.94
J. Aundrea
Yeah I will the the whole purpose of media if you look at it from a sociological anthropological perspective is to.

46:48.96
Bruce Anthony
Oh here we go I'm just say about to get some knowledge. No no, no, no, no no I was about to be like did we about to get some knowledge I'm not cutting you off I'm I'm cheering you on knowledge. Go ahead, drop it.

46:55.34
J. Aundrea
I mean I it made me not want to say it. Yeah, yeah, I mean if we look at it historically not just historically, but in modernity like the purpose of media is to shape society. It is to let us know what are. What are the parameters by which we're supposed to live how how we're supposed to look how we're supposed to dress how we're supposed to talk how we're supposed to conduct ourselves in polite society media is the thing that we look to to understand. It's supposed to be. We learned in this in the home. But most people ain't got no damn sense. So media and media media 100 % informs all of our understanding of society and of people within our culture so that is that is the whole purpose of media.

47:54.80
Bruce Anthony
And and yes, it's a brainwashing it really is. It's a brainwashing to you and to you Yes, and so this this report didn't surprise me like I already knew that but but there are going to be some people.

47:56.54
J. Aundrea
To begin with. Yes, it's Propaganda. It's a propaganda tool. Yes, yes, so. Me.

48:13.77
Bruce Anthony
Out there. They were like oh I Just don't believe that I'm right like like like that's and and.

48:14.27
J. Aundrea
Well the I track and software didn't lie so it was It's right there in your face. What I would would you would do would this part be interesting to you that black teachers. Had more eye movement towards the black students looking for behavior issues.

48:42.24
Bruce Anthony
That wouldn't surprise me for a couple of different reasons. Um one when you go into teaching like you try to check your biases at the door like if you're smart.

48:43.38
J. Aundrea
M.

48:57.12
Bruce Anthony
An evolved person you recognize that you have biases if you don't ah it evolve. Yes, everybody has biases and I don't have a racist bone in your body. You got a lot of bones in your body. Some of them is racist whether you want to.

48:58.48
J. Aundrea
Right? Knock it off. Yes, you did.

49:10.35
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

49:14.70
Bruce Anthony
Recognize that or're not ah realize the truth you know, but so for those people that recognize it and and I would venture to believe it's a lot of educators because I remember being in the education department at the University Of Maryland and it was if some teachers ready to go into neighborhoods as like you can go there if you want to I ain't going there.

49:32.20
J. Aundrea
A a.

49:34.55
Bruce Anthony
I am I'm not going there. Um, but so I would say that some some of these teachers will probably make a conscious effort not to because once again, like you said earlier, they don't want to be betrayed be portrayed as I'm not like 1 of those.

49:50.96
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, so.

49:54.27
Bruce Anthony
So so you have a situation where people would be so adamant about not being one of those that they go to the extreme out so I can see that not us.

49:59.90
J. Aundrea
Just.

50:09.80
Bruce Anthony
We'll look at somebody and be like look at this little black ass I bet he bad as hell.

50:13.19
J. Aundrea
Well what the researchers they don't have they didn't obviously didn't have an answer I feel like they were pretty close but what they said was this was in Yale News um black teachers hold black students to a higher standard of behavior than do their white counterparts.

50:25.36
Bruce Anthony
O.

50:29.81
J. Aundrea
Um, the study didn't explore why this difference in attitude exists. But the researchers speculate that black educators may be demonstrating a belief that black children require harsh assessment and discipline to prepare them for a harsh world I feel like that's close. It's sort of like touching on the talk. That most black people get in at home about how to conduct yourselves when you go out into the world because you're a black person in America and with that carries just shit and so that we have to deal with and.

50:53.66
Bruce Anthony
A.

51:02.38
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, yeah I don't I don't I didn't need no Yale study to tell me that black people look to the next generation and says to them. This is not unspoken.

51:18.35
J. Aundrea
Just just.

51:21.14
Bruce Anthony
No matter how good you are you better? make sure that you were a lot better than your counterpart because you're not going to get the same treatment as them. So yeah, go ahead.

51:28.54
J. Aundrea
Um, and so I'm wondering if I so I'm wondering if the thought process where they clock the eye movement of the black teachers towards the black students of light just as long as it's not you baby who is.

51:42.94
Bruce Anthony
Just a.

51:45.37
J. Aundrea
Like I'm just gonna watch you make sure I had to hit in on you Sweet Angel like did I get this.

51:50.16
Bruce Anthony
Well, ah, but isn't but isn't that kind of what I said right? like like kind of but it's the same thing is just like it's either. It's either don't be the bad 1

51:53.74
J. Aundrea
Ah, yeah, yeah.

52:03.89
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

52:06.85
Bruce Anthony
Or please don't be the bad one because don't show out in front of these people.

52:11.99
J. Aundrea
But this but this idea of criminalizing even the behavior of preschoolers black preschoolers over their white peers. Has far-reaching consequences I mean we've all heard about the school to prison pipeline and what that does to black communities. Um, they said that black students make up 18% of Preschool enrollments. But.

52:28.80
Bruce Anthony
E.

52:34.75
Bruce Anthony
E.

52:46.95
J. Aundrea
Half of the suspensions were black students preschool. It gets even worse in k through 12 through ah black students are 3 times more likely than white students to get suspended or expelled and they only make up 16% of the public school population.

52:48.52
Bruce Anthony
New preschool.

53:05.33
J. Aundrea
Um, and of course I was not I was not surprised to find that 55% of all black suspensions in US public schools occur in the 13 Southern States you hear here in Georgia black students make up.

53:16.12
Bruce Anthony
Yeah I win smile. Yeah, okay.

53:22.22
J. Aundrea
37% of enrolled students in public schools 67% of the expense of the suspensions and it gets worse when you get to high school and now you're adding these ah resource officers right? that are. Criminalizing disruptive behavior and then what is what is a cop going to do but then funnel you straight into the juvenile system and it and the but the idea that this starts all the way in preschool with 3 and four year olds to me.

53:47.79
Bruce Anthony
Here.

53:59.62
J. Aundrea
Is what 3 and 4 year old isn't disruptive god.

54:02.35
Bruce Anthony
Well I tell you 1 thing sometimes sometimes a shoe fits with little black boys because as I make this a little bit lighter sorry bro but our brother was a holy terror and preschool.

54:15.70
J. Aundrea
Now that that's but that's 1 child.

54:21.35
Bruce Anthony
It's what but he if but he made it. He look how you go he was in a I'm sorry bro like I got tell the story he was in a catholic preschool. Ok Christian they had nones.

54:26.77
J. Aundrea
The it was christian no it was a christian it was a Christian preschool it was no they just the head to.

54:37.66
Bruce Anthony
You sure they didn't have nuns. They just had sisters.

54:45.78
J. Aundrea
The church volunteers I'm pretty sure. Yeah and kind.

54:46.60
Bruce Anthony
They won you sure I could have sworn. There was nones. Okay, the story has grown through the years but the story I remember is that he was kicking and spitting at nuns. But he was kicking and spitting.

54:56.88
J. Aundrea
It was the teacher correct. But again this is not behavior. This is not behavior that's outside of the room of any child and if we look at.

55:04.27
Bruce Anthony
You know I I This is true.

55:14.36
J. Aundrea
Where real violence is happening in schools. It's not us.

55:18.22
Bruce Anthony
Well no, but once again goes back to the previous argument media. You know what you can see on every news station especially on Fox Twitter o and newsmex is those kids in Chicago that raised holy hell.

55:32.80
J. Aundrea
And.

55:34.94
Bruce Anthony
And recently there's been something going on on Twitter where these young black girls were raiding a store and this giant white man grabbed one of them or hit one of them up so you see these images all the time you know what? you don't see a lot of but it is happening white kids doing that.

55:44.72
J. Aundrea
Yes.

55:52.32
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

55:54.63
Bruce Anthony
And no when you can see it any time anybody wins any big game I was at the University Of Maryland let me tell you something we rioted when we lost games when we won games we stole goal posts from we stole a goal post.

55:58.48
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

56:08.18
J. Aundrea
Yes.

56:12.18
Bruce Anthony
And when I say we it wasn't really me I'm just speaking in generalized as students there. We stole a goal post from the football stadium and carried it all the way to frat row now let me explain to you how far that is is far you got to cross what is a road but looks like a highway. It's like 4 It's at least 4 lanes with a goal post.

56:23.72
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

56:31.40
Bruce Anthony
And then burnt it the next time they rioted they broke in the houses stole furniture just to go burn and these were grown adults but young kids do this as well. So this idea that only black kids are out there while and out wrong. Kids are out there while in out, you know why? cause they're kids and kids while out.

56:39.27
J. Aundrea
Was.

56:45.92
J. Aundrea
Yes.

56:50.88
Bruce Anthony
But the idea that because of the big black scary man that you have been taught to be absolutely afraid of no matter how many Martin Luther Kings or Cory Bookers are or John legends.

56:55.85
J. Aundrea
M.

57:06.44
J. Aundrea
But I don't I'm confused by that list but continue. Yeah, yeah.

57:10.68
Bruce Anthony
But no matter how many of these people that we put in front of you. You scared of that mythical creature. the the Sasquatch who was probably black in your eyes and you're so scared of them.

57:24.85
J. Aundrea
In.

57:29.80
Bruce Anthony
Little three year olds you're looking for that young and that's what the study showed me that you're looking for at that young and and for the black people that are looking for it. It's ah that black generation because I always say when I see black kids out there while and I'm like oh y'all gotta be better. Don't do that. Don't do that.

57:31.24
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

57:46.30
J. Aundrea
M.

57:48.47
Bruce Anthony
Because we because we won't get the same treatment as somebody else they're gonna look at us difference. Don't do that. But ah yeah, this was an enlightening ah study.

57:53.19
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

57:58.98
J. Aundrea
And and it's and just to make another point. It is not just black boys now boys of all races are disciplined more frequently than girls but black girls according to Vox are suspended more frequently than girls of any other race. And more frequently than white hispanic or asian boys according to the office of the civil rights office of civil rights and dark skinned black students particularly girls um are 3 times more likely.

58:22.60
Bruce Anthony
Um, yeah.

58:35.49
J. Aundrea
To be suspended than lighter skinned Girls. So. Not only do we have a racial component but we got a color component as well and black girls are not um, they're not immune to this either this idea of. The adulttification of children number one The What's what's an acceptable type of ruckus right? like getting excited after a basketball game or a football game and destroying property. These are these are acceptable types of violence right. But violence by people of color even for a good cause right? civil disobedience That's never Tolerated. Um, and then you also have the criminalization after you've adultified these children.

59:19.80
Bruce Anthony
A.

59:30.25
Bruce Anthony
Yeah.

59:30.68
J. Aundrea
You're criminalizing them and it just continue. It is is just only one segment of society Just this is just Education. We're not even talking about all the other places within Society. Where this is an issue for black people. But there you go.

59:52.10
Bruce Anthony
So we started off by specifically saying that transgender are the people who are the lowest on the totem pole that are getting picked on the most but we gonna end the episode talking about how black people are picked on. So.

01:00:08.29
J. Aundrea
No because we can hold that both are true that that there is a specific oppression that black people face in this country and there is specific oppression that transgender folks of any race.

01:00:09.36
Bruce Anthony
But we undermined ourself a little bit.

01:00:27.95
J. Aundrea
Face in this country and that that there's no equity or there's a lack of equity in the support that we provide 1 demographic over the other like we can hold that these things are also true that everybody is going through some shit but that. There are more vulnerable and more marginalized communities that deserve our attention as well. Exactly.

01:00:48.60
Bruce Anthony
Right? We don't have to trauma compare just recognize there's trauma all around there is no easy way to segment out of this but Jay what do you want? It's the people out there. That's the end of this episode this big gone on an hour that's standard. It is.

01:01:01.71
J. Aundrea
Right? Yeah, so you know my new sign off is to is to you know say whatever grinds my gears in this this week it is do that thing. You said you was gonna do do that thing. You said you was gonna do.

01:01:15.63
Bruce Anthony
Near.

01:01:20.85
J. Aundrea
Do it tomorrow like just do it. Bruce you got the you got that you got that passport yet. Nope do it tomorrow just do it tomorrow at Eleven thirty a m I don't do this is gonna be national. Do that thing.

01:01:30.25
Bruce Anthony
Ah I'll be in the gym working out.

01:01:40.58
J. Aundrea
You said you was going do day and between and between nine thirty and eleven thirty a m tomorrow may fifth. Do that thing said you was Goingnna do no this is gonna be national. Do that thing you said you was gonna do.

01:01:49.81
Bruce Anthony
I Got to finish I got I got to finish editing the show I'm gonna do it this weekend. No Don on no no time out all right I you said it was go big. No, but no, no, no J hold on.

01:02:00.47
J. Aundrea
Because here's why your friends and loved ones is is not just directed towards you This is not just a directors towards you This is for everybody I'm not. It's really, it's really quick if you let me get it out I would already been done.

01:02:09.11
Bruce Anthony
I said we needed to end the show and you about to go off on another tangent I can see it in your eyes. Okay.

01:02:18.45
J. Aundrea
And I'm go ah tell you why you need to do the thing. You said you was gonna do because your friends and your family your loved ones at tire to hearing about how you haven't done that thing that you said you was gonna do we Tired. So Do the thing tomorrow National Do The thing you said you was gonna do day. And do that thing you said you was going to.

01:02:36.92
Bruce Anthony
Do that thing and on that note, our hollow.