Exploring Affirmative Action, Homelessness, and Trans Rights in The Sibling Happy Hour

00:02.82
Bruce Anthony
On today's episode is the sibling happy hour I'm here with my sister J Andrea we're gonna be talking about a affirmive action biden and homelessness and an and try and try.

00:16.32
J. Aundrea
This tastes pretty this face pretty.

00:27.50
Bruce Anthony
On today's episode is the sibling happy hour I'm here on my Cis Jay Andrea we're gonna be talking about affirmative action Biden and homelessness and an anti tri trans bill blocked by Trump appointee. But first things first.

00:48.48
Bruce Anthony
What else is ah here white. So the intro the reason why my sister asked that ladies gym because I I whiffed a couple of times on the intro I don't typically whiff on the intro. The intro is typically a.

00:50.30
J. Aundrea
How are you doing.

01:08.14
Bruce Anthony
Boom I go right into it and it's done. But this time a couple of takes I don't know what's going on I'm flustered today I had a lot of emotions going on with me today. There's a lot of things happening right now there's a lot of stuff. No well we we go and talk about it.

01:08.91
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

01:20.14
J. Aundrea
Ah, last stuff going on. Do you want to talk you want to talk about it. Okay yes I'm good I'm feeling real good. Ah.

01:26.87
Bruce Anthony
We go talk about it so that So so yes I do want to talk about it. But how are you doing.

01:35.75
J. Aundrea
If anybody is interested I don't know that you are but I'm down £40

01:38.25
Bruce Anthony
Boom look somebody actually couple of my clients were asking today. How's your sister doing and I was like dad told me that you hadn't been going on the scale because you didn't want to you didn't want to and I get that as a fitness professional.

01:52.91
J. Aundrea
Um, yes.

01:57.68
Bruce Anthony
I Sometimes tell clients don't get on the scale because that weight is going to you might lose fast and then it'll Plateau or you may it may take a little while to lose and then you it just comes off and I'm like don't pay attention to the scale pay attention to how you feel how your clothes fit.

01:58.99
J. Aundrea
Yeah. M.

02:14.53
J. Aundrea
Um, read it. Thank you.

02:16.89
Bruce Anthony
But £40 congratulations if I had a clap and button I think I do have a clap a button on here but I don't know how to work it and we now about to play with this stuff right now. Okay.

02:25.80
J. Aundrea
We don't need to experiment with that. That's fine I I don't need that level of validation. But I do feel good. Um, you know back pain loosen it up. You know I'm noticing I got more endurance um and things like that. So yeah I'm feeling good feeling good.

02:40.93
Bruce Anthony
Good look at this out there look at that My sister died here losing weight shit I need to be I Just said my first s word of the and my first and only s where I need to be right behind you because I need to.

02:42.85
J. Aundrea
If anybody out there. That's wondering. Yeah, yeah.

02:58.17
Bruce Anthony
Pill off a couple of these pounds my damn self but I've been sick for basically a month off and on so I haven't had that opportunity to hit the gym like I want to but I'm really proud of you because I know you've been hiting the gym. Yes.

03:02.70
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah, yeah, right hitting it. It's not that hard. It's in it's in my basement. So it's not that difficult that ah.

03:15.48
Bruce Anthony
Take our brother has really built a gym that I could work out in guys. He's it's a real. It's a it's a real pandemic gym like if you can't go to a gym is this the gym.

03:22.27
J. Aundrea
Yeah, it's a real gym down there. Ah it. Yeah. It It was supposed to be a fun rec room but it's become a gym and so you know what? Yeah,, There's yeah, there's still more space. Um, and you know it's not really finished yet. So. It's fine. It is fine and ah and I appreciate it. So.

03:35.33
Bruce Anthony
Well this in there plenty of space to to put fresh stuff down. Yeah yeah, yeah, right.

03:51.10
J. Aundrea
Happy He bought all that stuff So I didn't have to.

03:54.89
Bruce Anthony
Shout out to our brother our brother I just literally got off the phone with him. He called me because he's at mom's house right now cleaning out that garage and more power to him because I'm not going in that garage I had to go probably it was like a year ago to clean out a bunch of my stuff. Ah that I had stored in mom's garage.

03:59.68
J. Aundrea
And.

04:09.80
J. Aundrea
And.

04:14.60
Bruce Anthony
But I was like look I'm only going in here one time it's spider webs in there. Yeah is there's a lot of spiders up in there. A lot of them like a lot right? And no.

04:18.31
J. Aundrea
That's what I was That's where I was waiting for the spiders. It's the spiders. You don't want to gone. Yeah, it's a well. It's a detached garage like it's gonna be full of spiders I don't know what to tell you about that.

04:32.34
Bruce Anthony
And Mom didn't park the car in there like nothing like it doesn't go. No no I hardly ever goes in there. It's just been used as a stores thing but he's in there cleaning it out So you.

04:36.30
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

04:43.90
J. Aundrea
Yes, he did that to he did that for my basement um he he ah power washed the floor. Um and put an epoxy down and did a hope he did a whole bunch of stuff down in the basement. So um.

04:59.50
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, and snakes what? well the snakes outside of your house.

04:59.58
J. Aundrea
Kills the spiders there are there are spiders see yeah I hear them down there. There are no snakes. There are no snakes in my house. There are snakes outside of my house. But yes, my house is backed up to the woods. So there's gonna be some snakes. There's all kind of various. Lizards I think I saw all coyote once I'm not a hundred percent sure pretty much yeah splinter and them shredder I seen them all. Yeah I said I seen them all. Yeah.

05:20.29
Bruce Anthony
You got the teenage Mutin Nija turtles back there there there. What's a splinter was a rat. Okay, ah.

05:35.85
J. Aundrea
I Said what I said.

05:38.14
Bruce Anthony
Our brother has our brother should really be doing that should be I mean he he's a for real professional but like he could legitimately start a a company is just like hey we gonna go through and do trash removal and gut your place and cleaned out. Yeah he he's good at that type of stuff.

05:45.74
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

05:50.18
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:57.27
Bruce Anthony
So shout out to him ah less. Let's stop all the deadly daddling.

06:02.22
J. Aundrea
Who what do with is your obsession with the word dilly dian because this is now the third or third time I think that you've used it and I gotta say I'm not a fan. Yeah.

06:07.76
Bruce Anthony
I Don't know. Yeah well I'm just showing my age. That's all I'm I'm embracing my age. That's that's what it is like ah what and ah.

06:20.69
J. Aundrea
You're not old. No.

06:23.32
Bruce Anthony
I'm not young. So so I don't know what I am but I'm not.

06:27.99
J. Aundrea
Just just alive at this. So there's a there's a there's an age where you're not old. You're not young, you're just kind of alive and I think that's that way you're just an adult. Yeah.

06:41.77
Bruce Anthony
Yeah I'm a full fledged dealt except for the fact that I still like video games cartoons Superheroes where.

06:45.61
J. Aundrea
Yeah. Will you know where that comes from it comes from being denied these things as children.

06:57.20
Bruce Anthony
But we weren't I wasn't denied these things.

07:03.50
J. Aundrea
But a lot of people in their adult life buy all the stuff that your parents used to say you got Mcdonald's money you got video game money. You got this? Ah so now that we do have the money because we are adults now.

07:08.74
Bruce Anthony
Um.

07:18.54
J. Aundrea
There's nobody telling us we can't have these things because we don't have Mcdonald's money and so now we're going out. We're buying the things.

07:25.26
Bruce Anthony
Yeah I get it that was ah that my Jordan my Jordan obsession I had for years that the pandemic stopped that what stopped my Jordan addiction was the pandemic it got harder and harder to get these shoes at regular costs and I would have to get them.

07:31.94
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

07:43.60
Bruce Anthony
At Markup of a hundred dollars sometimes more and I was like you know what I barely even wear the shoes anymore because I don't go anywhere and it's also getting to the point where I'm probably too old to be wearing a even though I still when I when we went up I'm bordering.

07:53.52
J. Aundrea
Ah.

07:58.60
J. Aundrea
You're bordering because and um and not because like I feel like there's an age attached to sneakers but because those are not you know orthoic they're not listened. He could mess around get some heel spurs and stuff like messing with them sneakers all the time you but get you some Orthotics.

08:14.92
Bruce Anthony
Learn and look Jordan is not a sponsor so I could say that them shoes are not comfortable and and and and you don't and you don't want to scuff them so you walk real gingerly like.

08:25.00
J. Aundrea
Now they don't look comfortable. With dilly dling. Okay ned flanders is dilly dalia.

08:33.96
Bruce Anthony
Like ah anyway, but once again I said deaddly daddly and didy. Ah okay, whatever. Let's get to the major announcement today.

08:48.22
J. Aundrea
It.

08:49.20
Bruce Anthony
Like I said we filmed the episodes on Thursday it airs on Friday and the major episode was basically supreme court striking down affirmative action as far as being used for college admittance.

08:56.86
J. Aundrea
Yes. Yes, so according to the Washington quotes the supreme court on Thursday held that race conscious admissions programs at Harvard and the university of North Carolina violate the constitution's guarantee of equal protection. This is a historic ruling. Rolling back decades of precedent and I honestly I think it's time we we start investing in our Hbc use y'all like you know we got some strong hbc use that are really churning out some amazing graduates. I went to 1 for 1 year but it was 1 year and then I came home for various reasons but we just start investing in our hbc use and I'm interested to see what.

09:41.44
Bruce Anthony
It was 1 year

09:53.66
Bruce Anthony
I I.

09:57.81
J. Aundrea
This will the what effect this will have on particularly white women.

10:03.69
Bruce Anthony
It won't have any effect on white women none um because it wasn't ah the only the race part of affirmative action was struck down not the Jet depart. So so ah.

10:14.14
J. Aundrea
That's right? So so this was specifically to disenfranchise black and latinos.

10:21.58
Bruce Anthony
Well up so ladies and gentlemen my sister wanted to talk about this issue and it is an important issue I want somebody that has a legal background who is unbiased to come on the show to really break down the legal aspects of what's going on here. It's extremely extremely complicated.

10:27.32
J. Aundrea
M.

10:33.93
J. Aundrea
Yeah, because it's complicated and we truly don't know what the impact will be my question is is there really going to be an impact on and you can when you have the show.

10:41.41
Bruce Anthony
And.

10:53.28
J. Aundrea
Ah, with your expert is there really going to be an impact on private institutions. Um.

10:59.16
Bruce Anthony
I Think when I have that show when I find the right lawyer. Um, and when I have that show you should be on because you this you have very strong and good questions to ask about this. So let's not let's not focus on the legal aspect of it.

11:10.29
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

11:13.11
J. Aundrea
Right.

11:15.19
Bruce Anthony
Let's focus on the societal aspect of it. So and and let's get to the heart. Let's get to the heart of the issue. Um, and there's several different aspects that I just want to bounce off with you I got a feeling that this segment is going to run long and that's okay. Ah, bear with me here ladies and gentlemen. There's a couple of different ways that I want to attack this argument I'm going to first start with Clarence Thomas he was seconded and running and writing the dissent and ah.

11:43.65
J. Aundrea
Okay. M.

11:52.97
Bruce Anthony
I think it's important to understand his thought process and a lot of things that he does so in his autobiography my grandfather's son Thomas says his degree from yale law school. He graduated in 1974

12:08.38
J. Aundrea
And.

12:10.31
Bruce Anthony
Was never taken seriously because of affirmative action. He harbors a lot of resentment animus towards affirmative action because once he got that degree and he's going to law firms for interviews.

12:16.72
J. Aundrea
Resentment.

12:28.19
Bruce Anthony
He got a lot of backlash from white people saying where you are obviously not the smart you didn't get obviously you got these grades because of affirmative action which affirmative action it it. It is a real it happens it happened to me.

12:30.75
J. Aundrea
M.

12:37.56
J. Aundrea
And that's a real thing that happens that's a real thing that happens it's it's the hope. It's the whole point of them bringing the case to the Supreme court is yeah.

12:45.57
Bruce Anthony
At the University Of Maryland

12:50.14
Bruce Anthony
Well I'm gonna get into that in a minute because there's there's a lot of people just think there's a lot of behind the scene stuff going on with this suit but let's just focus on black people and affirmative action. You went to Maryland.

13:05.18
J. Aundrea
M.

13:09.40
Bruce Anthony
I went to Maryland I remember distinctly people asking me at Maryland so like are you here because like on an athletic scholarship or something mind you yes I am tall compared to the average human being right I am tall.

13:18.93
J. Aundrea
And.

13:25.96
Bruce Anthony
But at the University Of Maryland I'm the same height as shout out to Steve Blake who who was a friend of mine at the University Of Maryland randomly met him like the first week of school in the lunch room just asked him and Drew Nicholas hey can I sit here and eat with you guys. And and found out that they played on the basketball team they're they're my height they were guards small guards Steve went on to have a good career in the and Nba really solid player in the Nba but when you look at it from the standpoint of did I play it for athletics.

13:45.40
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

14:02.43
Bruce Anthony
I'm a small guard and collegiate and Mba so to a normal person I'm tall but in the grand scheme of things if you're looking at athletes on this campus I'm not big. You're asking that question because I'm black now white people will say.

14:02.64
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

14:13.47
J. Aundrea
No.

14:20.74
Bruce Anthony
Cause I've brought this up before and it was like why don't you think they just said it because I was tall. No because I'm not I'm normally tall if I was 6 8 six nine okay I get it if I was as big as I am now now I'm built like a football player but back then like I was two hundred pounds soaking wet like I was not big.

14:26.44
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

14:38.19
J. Aundrea
The.

14:39.84
Bruce Anthony
Right? So I didn't look like an athlete I didn't well maybe I did look always have an athleed bill. But no, they didn't ask me that because I look like an athlete. They asked me that because I was black because specifically white people asking me that and people white people specifically Because. Just like the term woke just like ah social programs like welfare food stamps housing support has been co-opted by ah, rich white people.

15:11.15
J. Aundrea
M.

15:13.40
Bruce Anthony
Of saying that this is something that minorities use these are entitlement programs. They use those words specifically entitlement programs for them statistically untrue, but it's it's that narrative that they use so they use a narrative of affirmative action to basically mean quotas.

15:18.90
J. Aundrea
Yeah, which is statistically untrue.

15:28.32
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

15:32.89
Bruce Anthony
Which they're 2 completely different things. Quota is not a thing. It hasn't been a thing for a very very long time quota is is there is no token black person and ah and a corporation anymore are in a school that that isn't a thing and they equate that to a affirmative action.

15:36.28
J. Aundrea
Correct.

15:52.31
Bruce Anthony
So white people are thinking Well if that's the case then that spot's being taken away from me and I'm more deserving of that. So that's the reason why they say and and mind you I'm not saying all way people are like this. But this in this particular argument. This is a white.

15:59.23
J. Aundrea
M.

16:06.87
J. Aundrea
Yeah, we we're talking about political white.

16:11.88
Bruce Anthony
Person based argument. Yeah, ah, that's their point of view like oh this is a spot that should be mine is taken away which should not be yours and and the merit of which this spot has been not given taken. By a minority and when I mean taken not literally taken from you taken as they gripped it and they grabbed it from your clutches because they were so exceptional that they the universities had no choice but to say no, we got to let this dude in we got let this female in.

16:44.66
J. Aundrea
M.

16:49.55
Bruce Anthony
Because they're exceptionally better look at where they came from but that's been the argument and and and and that's been a narrative that's been a narrative. Ah, what do you think about what I just said as far as looking at it from justice Thomas Perspective

16:54.93
J. Aundrea
Yes, that's been the narrative. That's been painted. Yes.

17:08.64
Bruce Anthony
Where he was just like see they use this against us I think.

17:12.57
J. Aundrea
Um I think honestly and I my stomach is churning as I say this I think that's a fair point. However, that's a fair point on an individual standpoint. But what we're talking about. Is a political issue and again this is somebody taking a political issue and personalizing it Um, in the past you have exceptional people of black indigenous and people of color. Applying to institutions of higher education and being denied on the basis of Race. The only thing affirmative action says is that you are no longer able to do that You know.

17:56.52
Bruce Anthony
Thank you say that again for the people say that again for the people who don't understand who think affirmative action is based off a quotas say that again for.

18:06.64
J. Aundrea
Affirmative action Affirmative action is not saying you have to admit a certain number of black people. What affirmative action says is you're no longer to no longer able to discriminate against students on the basis of race.

18:19.20
Bruce Anthony
So what does striking down affirmative action Now mean.

18:24.14
J. Aundrea
So not only does striking down affirmative action have this resulting consequence. But also you notice the concerted effort against Dei that's happening in education now as well.

18:35.36
Bruce Anthony
Yes.

18:42.40
J. Aundrea
There is not not just that. But this this issue with CRT even though c r t is not taught in elementary or middle schools or high schools. It's a narrative this this um battle against teaching.

18:49.85
Bruce Anthony
Once again, the narrative the narrative.

18:59.97
J. Aundrea
Black and African-american History it is a concerted effort on several fronts to whitewash our education system and to push certain people particularly black latin and indigenous folks out of. And when I say latin also I mean black black and indigenous ah because there are white white latinos. So and you know the ted cruises are not included in this argument but um sure when it benefits him when it benefits him.

19:29.78
Bruce Anthony
I Guarantee he uses latino when it benefits him there.

19:38.52
J. Aundrea
But ah I'm rarely does he lean into that I I have where I have not seen any evidence of him leaning into it aside from where he goes on vacation but just not just not seen it so it is a concerted.

19:46.38
Bruce Anthony
Um, no.

19:57.91
J. Aundrea
Effort to push out black and indigenous people from our education system from the narrative of this country from the fabric of this country.

20:10.62
Bruce Anthony
So I'm going to piggyback what you just said with a statistic but before I say that once again for those people out there listening explain to them How affirmative action is used in the college admittance admittance. Ah.

20:27.14
J. Aundrea
Snap you almost the own cuss. You caught it. But I'm proud of you I'm proud of so historically I'll say it again. Historically you have.

20:27.71
Bruce Anthony
Situation I know I said that really eloquently. But you y'all know I was trying to say let's move on I almost I caught it? Yeah I caught it. Thank you. Thank you.

20:46.78
J. Aundrea
People of color black indigenous and people of color who applied for admission into higher education who were denied solely on the basis of their race solely they affirmative action just says you are no longer able to do that.

20:55.65
Bruce Anthony
So affirmative action does what.

21:03.10
Bruce Anthony
Okay.

21:05.30
J. Aundrea
You are no longer able to prohibit the the entrance of eligible students the scholars into your institution solely on the basis of their race.

21:18.28
Bruce Anthony
And what is it? not again, it's not a quota. Okay, and California which ended its policies on affirmative action. Twenty five years years ago the studies show that without affirmative action black enrollment plummets.

21:22.95
J. Aundrea
It's not a quota.

21:36.50
Bruce Anthony
Latino Enrollment plummets a apiroment goes up a little bit and we'll get into a a pi what that is a Api Roman goes up a little bit and whites flood the remaining opportunities. So what does that mean in the context j.

21:49.58
J. Aundrea
Written.

21:54.51
Bruce Anthony
Of what you just described what affirmative action actually is as opposed to what the narrative is.

21:58.19
J. Aundrea
Yeah, affirmative action is a protection for black indigenous people of color. It is protection. It is not a disenfranchisement. Of white and Asian people. It is a good.

22:18.28
Bruce Anthony
So for those. So for those people who are going to use those statistics to say see when you get rid of affirmative action more white people get in because less opportunity is taken away from them that is in correct because affirmative action. Never took away opportunities for white people. What they what it did was is give more opportunities to black and latino people because now they could not be discriminated against based on their race. That's the reason why when you take away affirmative Action. You see a decrease in enrollment for black and latino people and you see an increase in enrollment for white people Why because now you could discriminate them against them based on race.

23:02.90
J. Aundrea
What right? and so what I would like to know in that statistic is what are the rates of applications is it still the same number.

23:15.41
Bruce Anthony
Yeah.

23:21.17
J. Aundrea
Ah, black and indigenous people applying to the universities but not gaining admittance right? but I mean no I mean I'm just putting that question out into the ether. Um.

23:28.90
Bruce Anthony
Yeah I don't I really have that statistic out here. So you just hit me fly. Yeah, you do this one and you just hit her for little earth. Oh yeah, I man oh lord, you know what? we Go't get back on this just just just by putting that question out in the ether maybe and you just you know what? you just did. You know what? you just did up.

23:40.60
J. Aundrea
Oh man, but go get some hateration in this dancery.

23:46.70
Bruce Anthony
So going back but going back on the race and gender aspect of how they got rid of the race aspect of affirmative action. Not the gender aspect of affirmment action because once again when the the narrative has always been affirmative. Action is about Race No affirmative action has been about Race sex.

24:05.10
J. Aundrea
M.

24:05.87
Bruce Anthony
And gender. That's what affirmative action has always been about There's a reason why affirmative action wasn't specifically done after the fourteenth amendment which is what justice Roberts based his decision on and and I'm not gonna get into that I'm go get into that with a legal expert. Really break that down for me but affirmative actions was was implemented in the 60 s in the sixty s during the civil rights movement or you know what's also going on during that movement women's rights so affirmative action was for race.

24:30.30
J. Aundrea
M.

24:39.50
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

24:43.73
Bruce Anthony
Gender and sex I had to explain this to a young white lady of my government class and 2001 at the University Of Maryland when we were arguing affirmative action and she was like I don't understand why we need it.

24:53.45
J. Aundrea
Um, when.

25:01.15
Bruce Anthony
She was basically using the narrative that it's race based and I said you're probably in this institution because of a affirmative action. She said I'm not black. She's she said black right? She didn't say person of color because it's 2001 or 2 So she said black and I said.

25:03.40
J. Aundrea
Right.

25:14.50
J. Aundrea
Um, yes, you're right.

25:19.74
Bruce Anthony
Oh You don't know affirmative action is gender as well and sex so it helps women to to prove this point. Historically the been the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action have been white women women held only 35% of bachelor degrees before. But before affirmative action when affirmative action was introduced. You saw an increasedrollment of women in general enrollment in college so much so that now women more specifically white women outpace men as far as admittance. And to institutions and graduation rates. So Don't worry women white women out there where you say it doesn't affect me it will because now the argument can't be used this black person took my spot The next argument will be this woman.

25:58.70
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

26:15.87
Bruce Anthony
Took my spot now we need to strike this down as well I thought that solved the problem when we got rid of race. No, we didn't get rid of all affirmative action. Gender is next. It's a I'm telling you it will happen. It will happen because it can't use.

26:17.60
J. Aundrea
Um.

26:30.10
J. Aundrea
Yes.

26:34.23
Bruce Anthony
People of color to say anymore. They took my spot. They can't use it. Um, but.

26:37.55
J. Aundrea
Right? This is the thing and I've I've said this before that the things that benefit the folks at the bottom the benefits trickle up.

26:54.30
Bruce Anthony
Yes.

26:56.46
J. Aundrea
So when you get rid of we So We're so saying this with the striking down of Ro V raid when you get rid of the protections for the people at the bottom You think it's going to benefit the people at the top. But what you're going to find is that the people at the bottom are the base they're the foundation. And if that erodes the whole house of cards comes down so this will have a much larger effect in the long term than they think it's going to have and so um, we go sit back and watch in kiki.

27:17.46
Bruce Anthony
A.

27:26.25
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, that open up.

27:32.82
J. Aundrea
Um, because at the end of the day black folks indigenous folks. We gonna be all right? like we're going to be here. We're going to be here. We are not going anywhere and we are going to keep excelling. We are going to keep thriving.

27:37.94
Bruce Anthony
All ways are always are yeah.

27:52.44
J. Aundrea
In spite of listen hey we used to be enslaved in this country. Do you really think that this is enough to slow us down or to take us down. It's truly not oh no.

27:56.46
Bruce Anthony
Of.

28:04.46
Bruce Anthony
Can nobody hold us down. Oh no, we got to we got look I you would think but this is the this is also the fear right.

28:11.20
J. Aundrea
Because we got to keep on moving.

28:16.19
J. Aundrea
Me.

28:20.46
Bruce Anthony
The fear by by people that look at this and and and and ladiess and gentlemen I cannot stress enough I have to keep reenterating. We are not attacking all white people here. We're not I'm specifically attacking a well no I'm attacking a specific. No.

28:32.70
J. Aundrea
We're not attacking white people at all because this wasn't this wasn't brought by white people it it was behind yes where we will you and I know that who.

28:40.26
Bruce Anthony
It was brought by white people. It was it Yeah behind the scenes hold on yeah, all right look ladies and gentlemen. This segment is running along I'm all ended with this and we go continue on with this in the second segment and then get to the other stuff but this is what I will say. Before we end this segment I'm not attacking all white people I will not I'm attacking white supremacy and I'm attacking rich white people because if anybody studies the history of this country rich white people have always pit.

29:02.38
J. Aundrea
I'm attacking white s inarmacy.

29:16.52
Bruce Anthony
Others against others when we think of the term white white is an american term white was not established in the european countries it was established here in America as as they settled.

29:16.53
J. Aundrea
M.

29:22.42
J. Aundrea
Yes.

29:27.95
J. Aundrea
No well there was no need as they colonized.

29:35.18
Bruce Anthony
Right? when you were over european countries. You weren't white black or yeah, right? when you you when you were over in european countries before um, ah before America was discovered for those people watching on Youtube I'm putting down quotation marks because people was already here in America before America discovered there was no white you were british or french or italian or or moroccan like that's what you were there wasn't there wasn't a color thing a color thing established itself here in this country in the sixteen hundreds.

29:59.28
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

30:11.85
Bruce Anthony
It was established basically in Virginia during the bacon revolution now I can get into the history of bacon revolution. But y'all just Google it because it's going to take too long to explain it. But basically this is basically what happened black people. And indentured white servants joined together to start a revolt when you read about who they revolted against you. You realize how rich white people will pit minorities against each other because what they were really doing. We're attacking native americans and running them off to steal their land.

30:37.21
J. Aundrea
Um.

30:48.84
J. Aundrea
M.

30:50.83
Bruce Anthony
But it's scared the hell out of rich white elites to realize that enslaved black people and white enditchtured servants could join together to revolt against a class of people right? because maybe just maybe they could revolt against them.

31:03.75
J. Aundrea
Everywhere.

31:10.78
Bruce Anthony
That's when they established what white was okay and then they so they started to do away with enduc your servitude and ramp up slavery to put a divide between what was white and what was black.

31:11.83
J. Aundrea
Right.

31:22.73
J. Aundrea
M.

31:28.83
Bruce Anthony
Saying basically white was superior black was inferior so it didn't matter if you were a poor white person. You always felt that you were more inferior than a black person despite the fact that when black people were freed poor white people and black white people were in the same boat they had more in common.

31:31.28
J. Aundrea
Right.

31:48.30
Bruce Anthony
Than white poor white people had with rich white people but rich white people always had the narrative to say well you're white. You're better than them. They're taking your jobs does that sound familiar does that sound like what's happening right now with the invasion once again quotations.

31:50.19
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

32:02.72
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

32:07.53
Bruce Anthony
With the invasions of migrants. They're taking your jobs. They're not taking your jobs rich white people once again are telling you what the narrative is so I'm not attacking white people I'm not attacking white people as a whole I'm attacking rich white elite.

32:12.11
J. Aundrea
Um, no.

32:26.74
Bruce Anthony
That want to paint a narrative to maintain power and that's what's been happening in this country since the beginning of its quote Unquote Discovery and if you go back and look at every single war that we fought. French and Indian War right? Then after that look at who side the other person was On. We would often merge White White Europeans would often merge with a particular group.

32:53.46
J. Aundrea
M.

33:02.31
Bruce Anthony
To fight another group and then the next war was against the group that they merged with the further divide. Go do a Google search wilipedia of all the us wars and it's it's in it's they were our partners once now we're fighting against them. They were our partners once.

33:08.71
J. Aundrea
M.

33:21.56
Bruce Anthony
Now we're fighting to get over and over and over and over and all the way up to the civil war and ladies and gentlemen. We ain't done with affirmative action. We will continue on in the next segment.

33:39.25
Bruce Anthony
All right Jay I know we we said that we were just going touch on the the affirmative action case but I went on a I know I I know I did I did but this is literally.

33:46.48
J. Aundrea
Now we you you said, but it's it's It's an important topic and it's a sensitive one? Um so I understand.

33:59.99
Bruce Anthony
It's you know I say it's my thesis on America you know everybody talks about you know Trump is running the deep state and and this and that and it's like you're part of the deep state because what? what they talk about is.

34:02.90
J. Aundrea
And.

34:16.17
Bruce Anthony
And controlling this country are really the rich elite and I'm going to say majority white because the majority of this country's wealth is maintained by white people but there are absolutely rich. Black folks that are per per pertu perpetuating.

34:29.22
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

34:34.50
Bruce Anthony
Those ha.

34:34.59
J. Aundrea
White supremacist ideals. Yes.

34:37.67
Bruce Anthony
Yes, right? And Clarence Thomas is one of them I understand that he felt bad that that he thought affirmative action tarnished his law degree but you don't climb the ladder and then pull the ladder up. Okay.

34:51.75
J. Aundrea
You're right.

34:53.54
Bruce Anthony
Don't climb. You don't understand if for those people that don't understand what I mean by that is he climbed the ladder he made it and instead of keeping that ladder there so that the next people could make it as well. He decided to pull this ladder up and say well no, we're gonna make it.

35:07.15
J. Aundrea
M.

35:11.61
Bruce Anthony
Harder for you when it was easier for me. But when I talk true true that so also his generation. But when I say the money behind the scenes and we say that aap I who who originally brought this.

35:13.67
J. Aundrea
Such a boomer thing to do by the way.

35:26.72
Bruce Anthony
Suit and you you want to explain to the people with the a api is yes so that so when we say a api. That's what we mean? Okay, so it was a group of people in the a api community that brought together this suit and you say well Well, if they're being discriminated against they're people of color. True.

35:30.79
J. Aundrea
asianamericanpacificislander yeah

35:45.89
Bruce Anthony
True but it was backed by Ed Bloom who is Ed Bloom he's a conservative legal strategist known for his activism against affirmative action based on race and ethnicity notice. What I said there he is against affirmative action based off of race and ethnicity not gender.

35:57.28
J. Aundrea
And.

36:05.60
J. Aundrea
So.

36:05.21
Bruce Anthony
He's a white man so he still wants to make sure the white women are taken care of well until it impacts him. Let's ah, but he's the one who connects potential plaintiffs with Attorneys who are willing to represent them and test cases.

36:13.15
J. Aundrea
You're right.

36:22.15
Bruce Anthony
Which he tries to use to set a legal precedent to combat affirmative action. He is the director and he is the sole member of the project of fair representation which was a.

36:29.14
J. Aundrea
Um.

36:40.67
Bruce Anthony
Organization that was founded by him because he's a soul movement and according to its website the project focused specifically on voting education contracting employment racial quotas and racial reparations and since the 1990 s he's been heavily involved in bringing 8 cases to the us supreme court to combat affirmative action. So when I say to you this is about the rich white elite putting groups against 1 another.

37:17.38
J. Aundrea
Um.

37:17.92
Bruce Anthony
To make sure that they maintain power. He knew that he could never win this case if he kept bringing around just Plaino white people arguing that this was racist So what he did was is he chose people in a api to bring about this case because they're people of color.

37:26.89
J. Aundrea
Right.

37:37.51
Bruce Anthony
Technically as far as the United States is concerned and they're being discriminated against and that's how money and power influence policy in this country.

37:38.67
J. Aundrea
M.

37:46.98
J. Aundrea
Which is absolutely ridiculous because the you know the guy's position I forgot his name whoever the the kid was who brought it was the lead plaintiff in this suit. Is that he got like nearly a perfect score on his sat or he maybe he got a perfect score and he had a four point a million gpa or whatever and he applied to mit and Caltech and all these places and he didn't get in. Well do you understand that the people who apply to mit and caltech. Are this country and well actually the world's valedictorians every one of them nobody is the best of the best nobody is applying to mit with a c average day dumb.

38:24.12
Bruce Anthony
Right? It's the best of the best.

38:33.96
Bruce Anthony
I Mean they there might be some people that apply.

38:41.74
J. Aundrea
They're hoping to slat under the radar but nobody is applying to Caltech not having scored perfectly on their math on the s a ts so you're up against students who have the exact same profile as you. So.

38:56.00
Bruce Anthony
And you know with the difference for college admittance is for a lot of these people where the test scores are the same your extracurricular activities. You know that was one of the things that the guidance counselor used to tell us.

39:06.62
J. Aundrea
Right.

39:14.44
Bruce Anthony
Ah, when we were in high school like your grades could be great but your grades are you know you're competing against other people who have good grades too. They want colleges want well rounded student body which means what else did you do.

39:26.31
J. Aundrea
Maybe your essay was trash. Maybe your essay was trash. Maybe they don't care that you played tennis or golf or whatever.

39:33.97
Bruce Anthony
Right? Especially if you just made maybe nobody cares that you ran cross country which isn't even a tryout you just automatically on the team you know and y'll, you it right? like there's criteria for all this.

39:43.25
J. Aundrea
Right? If you could just run for an extended a period of time.

39:52.52
Bruce Anthony
J i'ma let you go ahead and wrap up this last bit of affirmative action because we have 40 minutes and we got 2 other topics to talk about and we ain't gonna go I oh by the way ladies and gentlemen let me just point this out there. There will be no episodes next week this is the last episode until July the eleventh. And we're not gonna run extra long. But maybe we might run a little loan to give you a little bit more but we are off next week we're taking a vacation. It's a holiday. It's ah you won't even work that much I do way more work for the network than you do you come once a week

40:13.90
J. Aundrea
Yes, Sweet Lord Yes, but.

40:24.81
J. Aundrea
I'm just listen. It's a lot I work hard I don't work I don't yeah I work kind of I do work.

40:28.33
Bruce Anthony
Ain't a lot I'm doing way more than you I didn't say that you I didn't say you well I'm taking a miniature vacation. Ah, for those of you that that know that listen to podcast my birthday is coming up. So also the fourth of July I'm going chill.

40:43.80
J. Aundrea
And.

40:47.43
Bruce Anthony
Um, but take a little break but don't worry. We'll be back that Tuesday eleventh with another interview and then back with the sibling happy hour which would be ah the fourteenth I guess yes it would be the fourteenth. Yeah, it be the fourteen Tuesday is ah eleventh the Friday be 14 Um.

40:56.90
J. Aundrea
I Don't know because I don't know calendars. Yes, yeah yeah.

41:06.50
Bruce Anthony
But I'm gonna let you have the last parting shots because I understand everything I had to say about affirmative action and it was a lot more than what I originally intended.

41:13.87
J. Aundrea
Yeah I mean as the whole damn show you say cut touch on it. Um, no I Really don't I don't really don't have that much to say um, but the true test will come.

41:22.15
Bruce Anthony
Text.

41:30.64
J. Aundrea
With these colleges and universities and that just because you don't have the law hanging over your head doesn't mean that you should change anything about your admissions policies.

41:45.72
Bruce Anthony
A.

41:48.10
J. Aundrea
Ultimately, you're not controlled unless you're a state school but I'm specifically talking to private institutions like you are not controlled by the State. You're not controlled by the federal Government. You can still say that we are not going to do's race. As a determining factor to exclude people I notice I did not say we're not going to use race to include people. We're going to. We're not going to use it to exclude them and if you notice that you're still getting the same number of applications.

42:09.30
Bruce Anthony
There you go right? there.

42:17.40
Bruce Anthony
There you go preach.

42:27.70
J. Aundrea
From black and indigenous students but the enrollment numbers aren't matching the the spread of the data from the number of applications if you notice that your student body is no longer representative of this country as a whole in the. The the way that it looks culturally then you need to decide what kind of institution you're trying to Run. That's all I have to say about that.

42:55.30
Bruce Anthony
Oh you preach all right? We're not gonna do a segment break. We're gonna roll right in the homelessness. Ah, the Biden administration announced more than $3000000000 in funding to tackle homelessness homelessness.

43:03.93
J. Aundrea
Guests.

43:11.47
J. Aundrea
Yes.

43:11.66
Bruce Anthony
With the focus on Veterans I have a lot to say about this but I'm gonna let you take the lead on this since I talked so much about the affirmative action. But when I mean I guess I't have a lot this is cool like we always say support the troops.

43:24.96
J. Aundrea
Yes.

43:27.40
Bruce Anthony
We always say support the troops when when people say support the troops is just giving more money to the actual military and not actually supporting the veterans and and this is good because I read something last year that the v a got something like 24 2400 people there veterans that were homeless in the homes and and there were still like 400 people that for twenty Four Thousand Twenty Four thousand and it was like 421 actually was homeless after a year or something like that but still it was getting these veterans out of being homeless and and.

43:52.60
J. Aundrea
Alson that was it.

44:04.54
Bruce Anthony
If you talk to homeless if you don't step over them and actually acknowledge them. You'll find out a lot of them fought for this country. A lot of them.

44:11.25
J. Aundrea
A lot of them are veterans. Yes, well the va actually said that they're on track to rehouse thirty Eight Thousand veterans this year so um the funding is going into supporting rehousing efforts.

44:21.40
Bruce Anthony
That's right, beautiful.

44:28.65
J. Aundrea
Um, they have a housing First. So ah, priority right? Their main priority is to get veterans housed and then. Follow up with support services or wrap what they call wraparound services which is health care assistance substance abuse assistance counseling job training because what they found is those support services are much cheaper. Once the person has already been housed and it's and in my opinion. It's easier to keep them in permanent housing if you're providing these support services. So The funding is going towards rehousing but it's also going towards.

45:01.68
Bruce Anthony
Anything.

45:11.00
Bruce Anthony
Right.

45:19.70
J. Aundrea
Things like rental assistance The like I said these support services. Um is it's funding for legal services um to represent ah homeless populations and like renter tenant disputes. Um job assistance things like that. So.

45:38.60
J. Aundrea
It's really going to be a comprehensive approach because when I was first reading about it. My concern was how are they going to address the mental health and addiction aspect of homelessness. Especially among the veteran population. Um, but they.

45:48.80
Bruce Anthony
I think.

45:56.21
J. Aundrea
They are making a concerted effort to also include these wraparound services and there was actually through these programs through hud and the VaA 55% reduction in veteran homelessness in 2010 um, of course it stalled under Trump but he does not he I guess in it.

46:16.38
Bruce Anthony
But but Trump but Trump supports the troops. Well maybe he supports this maybe he supports the troops but when you're no longer a troop and you're a veteran but I guess that's that's you know what? I I never thought of the wording of it.

46:30.30
J. Aundrea
Right? Then he don't give a damn I can't make I I can't make a judgment about that.

46:42.22
Bruce Anthony
Support the troops like they support you when you actually fighting. But when you ain't fighting no more. They don't really support you nobody really is the only person I know that's out there really fighting for veterans John Mccain

46:44.50
J. Aundrea
Um, and when you are a troop. Yes, um.

47:00.85
Bruce Anthony
Who is no longer fighting for veterans but but he was he was and John Stewart if your name is John you out there fighting for veterans you out there.

47:02.99
J. Aundrea
You know, rest right? rest in power you out there you out there. But there's a renewed push under Biden um Biden actually has a goal. It's called all in the federal strategic plan to prevent. And and homelessness through the Us Interagency Council On Homelessness he has a goal a very lofty goal of reducing homelessness by 25% for all americans by 2025. So um.

47:34.30
Bruce Anthony
Um, and.

47:38.83
Bruce Anthony
It's lofty goal is that's but but this goes back to the our conversation on homelessness I don't remember if it was the last episode of it was two weeks ago but when we were talking about homelessness. You were saying.

47:39.54
J. Aundrea
It's very it's it's is lofty but it's very encouraging.

47:53.42
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, you got to pump money into this thing you got to pump resources into this thing and here is president Biden pumping money and resources into this thing and I like the way that they framed this right? like let's look at the political way that he framed this in ordered it to get 3000000000 allocat 3000000000

47:53.73
J. Aundrea
And.

48:13.33
Bruce Anthony
Dollars of funds especially when we were just in a um budget fight a few months ago right? to order to allocate this this amount of money he specifically that he specifically first thing he says is veterans veterans.

48:21.20
J. Aundrea
You're right.

48:28.94
J. Aundrea
Yes.

48:33.21
Bruce Anthony
Veterans Veterans Veterans and then the back end is like all homelessness right? So when you say something like hey we're going to help Veterans who the hell is going to say well I don't agree with that right.

48:47.51
J. Aundrea
Is very unlikely that you'll have a partisan fight ah when it when it comes to veterans.

48:51.56
Bruce Anthony
And and and and his focus and ah but don't let me like sugarcoat that we absolutely like I don't I don't like to put hierarchies on who should get help first but like I'm one of those people if you fall for this country.

49:04.91
J. Aundrea
Oh.

49:11.50
Bruce Anthony
You did something I'm not capable of doing Oh I'm capable of doing I'm not willing to do it. You come home. There should never be any reason why you should be homeless on food stamps on assistance of any needs.

49:13.30
J. Aundrea
Same yeah.

49:24.54
J. Aundrea
M.

49:29.15
Bruce Anthony
Government should be taking care of you So when he says Veterans Veterans Veterans everybody is on board and then he slips in all homelessness and and only a career Politician could really really get that.

49:29.40
J. Aundrea
Yes.

49:41.74
J. Aundrea
Um.

49:44.30
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

49:45.83
Bruce Anthony
Because some of these young politicians was like we need to end all homelessness and you could you can make that a partisan issue. But when you say veterans if you attack veterans in this country. You're automatically a pariah so that was some smooth.

49:51.00
J. Aundrea
Yes.

50:02.79
Bruce Anthony
Look y'all might think Joe is old and he is but he's still kind of sly. He's still kind of sly.

50:06.71
J. Aundrea
He here? Yeah yeah because you have you have some conservatives including ones who were appointed under Trump who believe that housing is is an entitlement is is is not a right? um.

50:21.72
Bruce Anthony
You.

50:23.48
J. Aundrea
And so to you know you got to be you got to be slick about it old Joe Slick about it.

50:27.60
Bruce Anthony
You gotta be so oh Joe they use. They used to call Bill Slick Willie but we might had to call Joe slick Joe they used to call him crazy Joe now to go call him batman okay, that's a reference from.

50:37.27
J. Aundrea
Slick Joe

50:46.81
Bruce Anthony
A movie from the 1980 s star Morgan Freeman yes lean on me Joe Clark anyway homelessness in America Joe Biden you got any more things you want to talk about.

50:51.40
J. Aundrea
Was I alive I don't know. Ah yes, yes, okay, got you.

51:04.97
Bruce Anthony
Far This show is gonna be disjoining because I'm already on vacation Ladies gym I Um, um in my mind I'm on vacation right now I'm not going nowhere but I'm just on vacation. No it is good news.

51:08.86
J. Aundrea
In your mind your on vacation and yes, no, it's it's nus. It's it's finally good news. Um, so I'm excited to see what hood and the v a and the um. The interagency council which the us interagency council is like 9 different 19 different federal agencies on this council who did really some extensive research and work into what are some really strategic and more efficient ways that we can combat homelessness on a. On a large scale but also permanently and obviously the solution is housing. It's been difficult. There is a challenge because there's a nationwide shortage of low income housing. Um.

51:59.84
J. Aundrea
But they don't work it out when you got $3000000000 you can figure it out. Oh you can find or you can find housing you can find it.

52:01.68
Bruce Anthony
You go figure it out. But speaking of good news. There were some more good news. Some more good news coming out of Tennessee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a federal judge blocked Tennessee's ban on gender affirming care for minors.

52:13.16
J. Aundrea
Oh airs m Yes, yes.

52:24.13
J. Aundrea
Yes.

52:25.99
Bruce Anthony
So the senate bill won which is signed in the law by republican governor of Tennessee Bill Lee didn that just yes this I mean if that don't sound like it. It's what.

52:30.47
J. Aundrea
Who sounds like a old west villain. You just hear the spurs clinking and just like here comes old bill Lee yeah.

52:43.45
Bruce Anthony
Maybe cousin in Lee is the last name but it sound like a confederate general Bill Lee I mean it's just robert e lee ah you know which would be Bob E Lee Ah but Bill Lee same thing maybe is it just a cousinard or whatever. Ah so he signed the bill in.

52:45.21
J. Aundrea
It does Yeah, you write? Yeah, so it just sounds like a villain.

53:02.65
Bruce Anthony
And March to set just take effect in July it was sold and was sued by the Acl you look let me tell you some the Acl you was out there doing things they sent me an email earlier asking for donation. Um I'm gonna send them some money because because they out here fighting a good fight and they need our help. So um.

53:14.11
J. Aundrea
M.

53:21.70
Bruce Anthony
Basically the judge struck down the law which was going to prohibit Health care providers from performing on a minor or administering to a minor a medical procedure if the performance or administration of the procedure is for the purpose of enabling a minor to identify with or live as a. Um, what their the minor sex is identified as because they identify sex as your Genitalia and that's not the same as gender.

53:50.19
J. Aundrea
Which is so creepy. It's so creepy hey hey guys how about we stop categorizing people by their generals stop thinking about people's genitals. It's weird stop doing it.

54:04.19
Bruce Anthony
Especially when there are cases where people are born with both.

54:09.10
J. Aundrea
But even beyond that stop thinking about kids Genitals weirdos.

54:15.99
Bruce Anthony
It is weird. But so the judge stroke down struck down parts of it. Um, parts of it. He struck down um in Wednesday's ruling the us district judge and this is all from ah cnn.com I know y'all people gonna be like.

54:20.15
J. Aundrea
Yes.

54:32.70
Bruce Anthony
Ah, you're only getting information from Cnn that's where this article is from cnn.com and Wednesday's ruinling in us S District Judge Eli Richardson who was a trip.

54:35.30
J. Aundrea
Right now that sounds like that sounds like somebody who fought for the union. Well he was whatever that is weird because usually eli That's that's just.

54:46.82
Bruce Anthony
What no he's a Trump appointee um, which makes this even it's a southern name. It's a southern neck.

54:54.78
J. Aundrea
Sounds like somebody who know it it you know, but it definitely just sounds like somebody who fought for the union.

55:01.22
Bruce Anthony
Where he issued a preliminary injunction blocking the state's enforcement of a ban on such gender affirming treatments as hormone therapies and puberty blockers the ruling however allowed Tennessee to ban gender transitional surgery procedures. So basically.

55:17.13
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

55:20.11
Bruce Anthony
Kids could still get the um hormone therapy and puberty blockers but they can't actually get the surgery. The surgery is done.

55:27.78
J. Aundrea
Yeah, but but honestly and it this is just not happening for minors like I Just don't see where there's widespread like surgical intervention on Minors I just.

55:44.18
Bruce Anthony
This is what I will say and I'm probably gonna take you back on my comment I actually agree with this ruling and all aspects of it.

55:53.55
J. Aundrea
Yeah, but because there's just no doctors that are I don't see anybody saying to someone who is a minor and who doesn't you can't even ah, sign up for for arm. You know. Ah, service in the Army. You can't drink. You can't run a car but you can't.

56:11.80
Bruce Anthony
You can you can if you get you can sir on sign up for service in the army I think if you're 17 if you get parents consent 16 and 17 if you get parents consent so but this is but this is what they're trying to block is parent consent to get the surgery.

56:19.35
J. Aundrea
But you still need your parents to sign off on it. Why because you can't make that decision yourself.

56:30.92
Bruce Anthony
And I am not for I am not for telling parents how to raise their kids but at the same time I am for telling them hey look don't be telling the education system of what they can and can't teach your kids because they know better. What's gonna help.

56:34.59
J. Aundrea
Right.

56:48.15
Bruce Anthony
Your kids in the future than what you did like there's a reason why teachers go to school to study to be teachers parents aren't teachers You can't just jump into the classroom and start teaching you don't know what to teach you don't know what's important you don't know what actually you need that that leads later on the house. And life people swear up and down. There was no reason for algebra but I can give you many instances where Algebra actually helps you serving for X solving for X Anyway, I'm not going to go into the weeds for this because we run a short on time we already at a lot of time and when I enter into the ads.

57:23.18
J. Aundrea
I I Just need you to finish up your point because you were talking about teachers and I thought we were talking about gender affirming care.

57:24.20
Bruce Anthony
Oh by the way listen to the ads. No the point I was trying to make was is I'm typically like to stay out of making decisions for parents to have to deal with their kids right? I don't feel like there should be a. That parents should have a right in deciding what their children's actually curriculum should be I Don't think that the government should be deciding what parents can and can't do with their children right? because where does it end as far as.

57:49.18
J. Aundrea
M.

58:01.88
Bruce Anthony
What you can decide with your children with their bodies does does it get to a point where you say well they're not of age to to pierce somebody's ears or they're not of age to give somebody tattoos I'm of the ah personal opinion though that sometimes.

58:19.98
J. Aundrea
Um.

58:21.76
Bruce Anthony
People shouldn't be able to do certain things into their least of adult age. So I agree with the judge. Don't have no surgery on your children to fully transition them until they're adults right? right.

58:38.40
J. Aundrea
Because that's not happening. It's just not happening like it's right, you just need the 1 case sure. But ah, but what I'm saying is it's just not happening like it's not happening.

58:41.71
Bruce Anthony
But all you need is 1 case right? All you need is 1 case and then. It isn't happening right? It's not happening. It's not happening but also there are there will be there will be and it will be a minor case. There will be a parent out there that. Had all girls or had all boys and they just wanted they wanted the opposite sex so they're gonna choose 1 of their kids to do to say that that would never happen is.

59:15.37
J. Aundrea
I Can't say the things would never happen. But it's that kind of what if scenario that fuels. It's just not happening that kind of what if outlandish scenario.

59:23.75
Bruce Anthony
It's a slippery slope. Yeah I know I know I know and I normally argue against this.

59:34.94
J. Aundrea
Of ah yes, there have been parents who have ah dressed their children I hate saying dress their children because closing clothing is not gendered but dress their children as the opposite sex or something like that. Yeah, that ok.

59:50.58
Bruce Anthony
Has there been any cases out there where parents have allowed children children to get tattoos. Okay, that's the point I'm making.

59:52.71
J. Aundrea
But as far as.

01:00:02.37
J. Aundrea
Name that is not that is not a life or death situation getting gender affirming care is a life or death situation.

01:00:08.49
Bruce Anthony
No I'm not ah I'm not opposed to the gender Affirmcare I'm not opposed to the hormone therapy I'm not opposed to the puberty blockers. What I'm opposed to is it having the actual transition surgery before you are an adult.

01:00:23.78
J. Aundrea
But that's not happening.

01:00:26.30
Bruce Anthony
It's not happening. It's not happening but I am opposed to that just like I'm opposed to anybody getting a tattoo before 18 where I feel like per semi permanent conditions and even when you have the surgery to. Completely transition. It. You can have the surgery to transition back. You can um, it's not the same but you can you can get a tattoo. You can get it removed. You can, but it's not the same right, anything that is permanent.

01:01:04.42
Bruce Anthony
Semi permanent I feel like you got to be in the if you can't go fight and die in a war which by the way 18 you should also be allowed to drink. That's a different discussion I feel like 18 right? That's a different discussion. But if at 18

01:01:13.81
J. Aundrea
Yeah, if I can if I can hold a gun and fight for my country I should be able to have a freaking drink.

01:01:23.55
Bruce Anthony
Feel like okay, you want to do what you want to do or you feel with this right for you. This is your choice Absolutely but I don't our minds aren't I'm trying to.

01:01:37.76
J. Aundrea
I Think here's what I think here's what I think yes you are I think that this conversation requires a Trans person neither.

01:01:41.25
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, clean this up for me because I'm I'm messing up I'm going down a slipper slope.

01:01:53.34
Bruce Anthony
Yes, it does it does.

01:01:58.97
J. Aundrea
And and so neither one of us are qualified to speak on their behalf. So right? Um, so yes.

01:02:03.49
Bruce Anthony
You write it just like it's like white people talking about affirmative action.

01:02:14.43
J. Aundrea
This is good news that bill really painted a broad brush for what is considered gender affirming care like when you read it out that was a broad stroke and that's here.

01:02:21.50
Bruce Anthony
Well, that's what they're doing. They're attacking they're attacking trans people at and there are 12 There are 12 different states that have trans anti-t trans bills in the works already.

01:02:32.93
J. Aundrea
Yes, so if you live in one of them Stacy you're thinking about moving now is the time that's that's your call to action. But I think the judge I think the judge was smart in.

01:02:42.00
Bruce Anthony
There's a lot of people that ah you go ahead.

01:02:49.20
J. Aundrea
But and blocking the ban for gender affirming treatment which is actually happening and is actually necessary and.

01:02:52.38
Bruce Anthony
That is I was just bringing up the fact, my argument was that people should not make a choice that is permanent or semi-permanent. And until you were like 18.

01:03:08.87
J. Aundrea
I Think that is between that person their Healthcare professional and their parents.

01:03:14.77
Bruce Anthony
Yes, I mean there's exceptions to every rule right? But I'm just saying just in generally speaking.

01:03:18.20
J. Aundrea
Right? But I think if we're talking about protecting Children. We also have to talk about the increased rates of suicide among Trans. And not gender nonconforming and nonbinary children who don't get a chance to express their gender identity The way that they want to? yes.

01:03:41.55
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, you're right? We really need a trans person on here so that they can explain to me if you get the hormone therapy and the Puberty Blockers. What is your emotional state at that point if you haven't. It before getting the actual so surgery to completely transition.

01:04:03.30
J. Aundrea
What what you have to also understand is that a majority of Trans people do not surgically transition. That's not that's not always. That's not always the end result of that journey So again like I said this conversation.

01:04:13.40
Bruce Anthony
That's true as well.

01:04:17.13
Bruce Anthony
Well yeah, look train if if you're if you're if you're a fan of this show and you're a Trans person please contact us please because I have been speaking about Trans rights.

01:04:22.32
J. Aundrea
Requires a trans person to speak.

01:04:36.70
Bruce Anthony
But I have this is ah this is a crass way of saying it but I have no dog in the race I'm just an a supporter but I'm not Trans I Actually don't know anybody that's really Trans I don't have any Trans friends. So.

01:04:42.10
J. Aundrea
All his.

01:04:52.71
J. Aundrea
Um.

01:04:55.47
Bruce Anthony
Contact us come on the show explain to the audience what it is your life is like so that we can all get a better understanding that is Cotton look I will put you on the show I will put you on the show.

01:05:08.21
J. Aundrea
To write.

01:05:14.62
Bruce Anthony
Um, because I want to learn I want to understand better and if I'm wrong about this 18 year old thing and and you say well this is the reasons why j you know I would be like oh I was wrong about that. Okay, yeah, no okay, that makes more sense to me if I'm wrong I'm wrong I admit it? um.

01:05:15.49
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

01:05:34.80
Bruce Anthony
I'm not one of those people who believes that they're right all the time believe I'm right the majority of the time but not all the time. So yes I like I want to learn I Want to bring you to my audience. So my audience can learn because we're all ignorant to things that we all know a lot about and I can read but that's still not.

01:05:37.56
J. Aundrea
Right.

01:05:51.98
Bruce Anthony
Ah, still not as good as getting it from a person that's actually living and experiencing it. So that's all I'm saying.

01:05:54.40
J. Aundrea
Yes, there's no, there's no substitute for knowledge gain through experience the lived experience. So yeah, yes.

01:06:02.59
Bruce Anthony
Here. But this is a good thing. This is a good thing that struck down in Tennessee in the south and how you spell the south on that one on it's s o u f yeah south.

01:06:11.89
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

01:06:15.46
J. Aundrea
You f yes yeah self. Yeah.

01:06:22.22
Bruce Anthony
But on that note J Ah you got anything else. You want to add to this? Yeah, that was this we didn.

01:06:27.28
J. Aundrea
No, that was all I had in my notes. Um, yeah, we had a jam pack. We had a jam pack shows. Ah, it was a It was a good news week. It was a good news day. It's like right me.

01:06:34.92
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, it was good it. Yeah, everything happened everything literally happened day. Yeah, so this is just another reminder that we're off next week we will be back January Eleventh also liquid iy

01:06:41.76
J. Aundrea
Happened today. So we're pretty lucky. We had a lot to talk about.

01:06:50.23
J. Aundrea
January Not that much done.

01:06:53.77
Bruce Anthony
I mean July Eleventh not January. We ain't taking that much time off also get 20% off liquid I v when you use unsolicited at checkout get 10 % off wanggo puzzles when you use unsolicited that checkout that information will be in the description section of both the Youtube and and. Ah, um, both the video and audio descriptions there are sponsors now. So rock with them go and purchase that stuff support support. The podcast.

01:07:20.33
J. Aundrea
Um, I actually that I use. Ah ah I was proud to say hydration Ivy but it is no liquid I actually use Liquid Iy and it's tastes.

01:07:24.25
Bruce Anthony
Liquid Ivy That's not what it's called.

01:07:35.62
J. Aundrea
See and I use it before my workouts. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:36.77
Bruce Anthony
Liquid ivy is the ish I'm just gonna say I use that too in my personal life but Jay what do you want to say to the people before our brief vacation.

01:07:50.50
J. Aundrea
Yeah, we'll see you when we get back. We're going to enjoy this. We are goingnna enjoy this time off. Ah but we will be back. So don't worry.

01:07:57.21
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, my sister is out here talking like we don't like doing this. We love doing this I love doing this.

01:08:02.11
J. Aundrea
No, we love doing this? yeah but but are we do We also love vacation I don't know anybody who would say that they don't.

01:08:11.54
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, right, right? and just by the way just by the way though we will not be releasing and podcast next week subscribe to our Youtube page because there will be a bunch of videos that you can only get on. On. Ah Youtube so dropping next week. So if you're missing us and misses some of our content. Don't worry. There'll be content dropping on our Youtube page. We went over a hundred subscribers. We only need 900 more. So.

01:08:30.91
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

01:08:44.56
Bruce Anthony
Space that no no, we did it.

01:08:46.65
J. Aundrea
Ah, they'll say I like that. But it's true I mean to hit to hit triple digits like that's dope because I don't I don't know a hundred people. So I know that it's literally people who are just fans of the show and following the show because i.

01:09:02.14
Bruce Anthony
Um, right? Yeah I know for a so.

01:09:04.26
J. Aundrea
I know like 3 people and 2 of 2 of them are my brothers. So um I appreciate everybody who likes and subscribes and all of that hits that notification bell and sees all the content that we put out.

01:09:20.21
Bruce Anthony
That's right and share share like subscribe comment share. Let the people know out there. This is a week to catch up on all the podcasts. Everybody's gonna be on vocation for July to 4 Thank you for listening and on that note holler.

01:09:21.59
J. Aundrea
Share it? yeah.