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June 14, 2024

Crazy Bus Stories, IVF Debates, and Millennial Wisdom

Join host Bruce Anthony and his sister J. Aundrea in this engaging episode of Unsolicited Perspectives with Bruce Anthony: The Sibling Happy Hour. The episode starts with entertaining stories from public transportation, including unique bus encounters and airline mishaps. They then delve into a stimulating conversation about the Southern Baptist Convention's stance on IVF, examining its wider political and social implications. The show ends with insightful reflections on millennial life lessons, generational contrasts, and the dynamic between Millennials and Gen Z. Throughout, Bruce and J. Aundrea share a mix of personal stories, societal observations, and lively discussions, creating a thought-provoking and enjoyable dialogue you won't want to miss. #unsolicitedperspectives #publictransport #IVFdebate #MillennialLifeLessons #GenZvsMillennials

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Episode Summary:

In this episode of the podcast, Bruce Anthony and J. Aundrea delve into a series of intriguing and humorous anecdotes, ranging from crazy bus encounters to the controversial decisions made by the Southern Baptist Convention concerning IVF. They navigate through the complexities of the topics with wit and candor, shedding light on societal norms and challenging perspectives while maintaining an entertaining and engaging banter throughout the conversation.

Key themes discussed include the Southern Baptist Convention's stance on in vitro fertilization, the concept of personhood beginning at conception, concerns over frozen embryos, and the pushback against government involvement in private medical decisions. The episode offers a thought-provoking exploration of these contentious issues, highlighting the implications and underlying beliefs of the convention's decisions.

Key Takeaways:

  • The Southern Baptist Convention opposes in vitro fertilization due to their belief in personhood beginning at conception.

  • Concerns about the creation and handling of multiple embryos in the IVF process were a significant issue for the delegates.

  • The convention advocates for government restraint in actions inconsistent with the dignity and value of every human being, including frozen embryos.

  • An alternative solution proposed by the convention includes promoting adoption and considering adopting frozen embryos to prevent their destruction.

  • The episode touches on the additional issue of gender bias within the Southern Baptist Convention, particularly around pastoral leadership roles.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Embryos are not people, they're... a clump of cells."

  • "Just because you're a woman doesn't mean you're a feminist, and just because you're a feminist doesn't mean you support all women."

  • "There's a concern that they won't exist in several d

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Chapters

00:00 Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives

00:34 Sibling Happy Hour Begins

01:08 Bus Stop Encounter

11:14 Public Transportation Stories

15:15 Airline Voucher Frustrations

24:18 Southern Baptists and IVF

35:38 Patriarchy and Feminism

36:46 Southern Baptist Conference and Female Leadership

43:47 Adoption and Foster Care

46:09 Political Implications of Southern Baptist Convention

54:10 Millennials vs. Gen Z

01:07:06 Fashion Trends Across Generations

01:09:03 Generational Wisdom and Foolishness

01:12:00 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

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Crazy Bus Stories, IVF Debates, and Millennial Wisdom
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Bruce Anthony: [00:00:00] Welcome. First of all, welcome. This is unsolicited perspectives. I'm Bruce Anthony, your host here to lead the conversation in important events and topics that are shaping today's society. Join the conversation and follow us wherever you get your audio podcast, subscribe to our YouTube channel to watch our video podcast rate review, like comment, share, share with your friends.

Bruce Anthony: Share with your family, hell, even share with your enemies. On today's episode is the sibling happy hour. I'm here with my sis J Andrea. We're going to be dilly dallying a little bit. Then we're going to be talking about them Southern Baptists and then in millennials verse Gen Z. I don't know, but we're going to get to it in a minute, but that's enough of this intro.

Bruce Anthony: Let's get to the show.[00:01:00] 

Bruce Anthony: What up sis?

J. AundreaWhat up, brother?

Bruce Anthony: I can't call it. I can't call it, but I can call it. Yeah,

J. AundreaOh, you can.

J. AundreaOkay. All 

Bruce Anthony: call it. I had a, I had a very, very interesting thing that happened to me yesterday. Two things that were very, very interesting to happen to me yesterday. First thing.

J. AundreaMm hmm.

Bruce Anthony: So for those people that, that have been following the show, they know that I live outside of DC.

Bruce Anthony: Like I am four miles from the Pentagon, right? I'm five miles from Washington, DC. And I've been going a lot into the Pentagon area for work and meetings and things of that nature.

Bruce Anthony: I don't have a car because I don't need a car in this area.

J. AundreaYeah, you really don't in the DMV.

Bruce Anthony: I'm always drinking, so I don't drink and drive. So it was really no point for me to have a car.

Bruce Anthony: You could just Uber everywhere.

Bruce Anthony: But, but for these meetings, it's pointless for me to pay the 10, 15 for an Uber, [00:02:00] because in my city, there's a free bus that takes me right to Pentagon, right to the Pentagon. So I can hop on the bus anytime I want. I need to go to, to the Pentagon area and it runs every 10 minutes every day and it's absolutely free.

Bruce Anthony: And I used to be too bougie. To ride the bus, but not anymore. 

J. AundreaI'm never, I'm never too bougie for free transportation. Come on now.

Bruce Anthony: that's what I had to come to the reconciliation. It's like, it's free transportation Bruce. Like, wow, you're not doing this. So I'm going to catch the bus yesterday and I sit down at the bus stop and there's this older,

Bruce Anthony: we're going to say white gentlemen, I'm not real sure. what his nationality is, but he's more white than anything else.

J. AundreaOkay.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. For whatever, for whatever that means.

J. AundreaYou're right.

J. AundreaI don't 

Bruce Anthony: there. I mean, he's not a person of color.

J. AundreaOkay.

Bruce Anthony: I [00:03:00] know that much. Well, he's 

Bruce Anthony: white, but say people are white.

Bruce Anthony: no, no, no, no, no. But I, well, you know how I feel about the definition of white.

J. AundreaYes,

Bruce Anthony: I just have 

J. Aundreasociety defines race

Bruce Anthony: society does define race. We're not going to get into that, but you're absolutely right. So anyways, I'm at the bus stop sitting next to this white man and he says, you see that woman sitting across the street and this young black woman sitting in our car across the street.

Bruce Anthony: I was like, yeah, he says she went over to the projects and bought weed and came back over here and smoked it in her car. And I was like, oh, excuse me, sir. I live in an area that is, you 

J. Aundreayeah! Ain't no projects! 

Bruce Anthony: there is a area, there is an area, of apartment and townhouses that there's a little community that is lower income.

Bruce Anthony: It is lower what, low income is not the projects.

Bruce Anthony: not the projects. And, and, and when I [00:04:00] say low income, ladies and gentlemen, these are still working class people. This is,

Bruce Anthony: I don't, there might be. But I don't believe there's people like that are on welfare and on Medicaid. There could be, it could be, but the likelihood of it, not that high.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. So it's just a poor part of the place that I live. Then where I actually live, which is a high rise building that they say luxury, but I got my own issues with, with this, with this building. It ain't so luxury to me, but once again, I'm a little bougie. So, so there's, so the guy says to the projects and I was like, ain't no projects around here.

Bruce Anthony: There's no problem. He's like, well, she went 

Bruce Anthony: over there and 

J. Aundreasir, why are you talking to me? Second of all, sir, how do you know this? Third of all, sir, shut up.

Bruce Anthony: it. So that was the first thing I was like, why are you talking to me right now? I'm not giving off the energy of let's have a conversation. I'm giving off the energy [00:05:00] of it's hot as hell outside. I'm just waiting for this bus because I just took a shower. I got the shower sweats and the sweat from my bald head is dripping down my eyeball, mixing in with my moisturizer.

Bruce Anthony: It's stinging my eyes. It's not a good situation. 

J. AundreaIt's not great. 

Bruce Anthony: It's not, it's not great. It's not ideal. So this guy is telling me, it's like, yeah, she went over to projects and she came over here and she parked in that parking space and she's smoking weed. Why'd you smoke it over there in the process where you got it?

Bruce Anthony: And I was like, it's against the law. And I was like, it's not against the law. But then I thought about it. I was like, she's not buying weed from a dispensary. So technically that is against the law.

J. Aundreahe did? She did not get it from a dispensary.

Bruce Anthony: Oh, this story gets even crazier. So I'm getting, I'm getting annoyed with him because I'm I'm being me. So I'm contradicting what he's saying. First of all, there's no projects. First of all, weed is decriminalized. So it's okay. I don't understand what the big deal is. He's like, but you can smell it. I was like, I cannot smell it.

Bruce Anthony: Like, I can't [00:06:00] smell it. And I have a sensitive nose. I was like, you make it a big deal. I'm just going to sit here. That's what I told him. I was like, I'm just going to sit here.

J. AundreaYeah. 

Bruce Anthony: I turned, I turned and I'm not talking to him. And then there's this another dude, a brother that gets dropped off, gets dropped off by, I'm going to assume his woman because he says, okay, baby, I'm gonna catch you later.

Bruce Anthony: And you know, I do have female friends, but I don't say, Hey baby, I'm gonna catch you later. So I'm going to assume

Bruce Anthony: that that's his partner, right?

Bruce Anthony: He's got it. He's got a backpack with him, right? He's just trying to get himself together, getting ready to catch the bus. Just like the rest of us.

Bruce Anthony: There's two buses that are supposedly coming on this route.

Bruce Anthony: The first bus that comes is not my bus, but we're going to call him Mr. Unique Mr. Unique. Is getting on that bus for those people that are listening. Mr. Unique is the guy that was talking to me about the projects. Okay.

Bruce Anthony: He gets on the bus, the bus takes off. I'm sitting down the dude that got out [00:07:00] of the car with his woman.

Bruce Anthony: We're going to say baby man, baby man gets out of the car and 

J. AundreaYou are bad at that, by the way. I

J. Aundreawould have called him Project I, and And, no scrubs, because he was riding in the passenger side of his girl's ride. That's

J. Aundreawhat I would have named him, but you do your names.

Bruce Anthony: no, that's better. Project Pat and No Scrubs. Okay, that, those are really good names. Okay.

Bruce Anthony: take, that's very creative of you. Alright, so, No Scrubs is, is like, not sitting next to me, but like, he's, he's, he's getting in his bag, and like, he's getting, he's getting stuff together. The bus Project Pat got on stops in the middle of the street.

Bruce Anthony: Project Pat gets off the bus, starts yelling, my bag, my bag. He runs up to no scrubs is like, what are you doing? Trying to take my bag. No scrubs is like, what are you talking about? This is my bag. Project Pat tries to yank the bag [00:08:00] away from no scrubs. No scrubs like, yo, get off of me. This is my bag. What are you doing?

Bruce Anthony: They are. Tussling in the street, going back and forth, yelling and screaming, okay? And the guy, no scrubs, is saying, This is my bag! What are you doing? Get the F off of me! Get the F off of me! This is my bag! And Project Patton is saying, No! You're trying to steal my bag! You're trying to steal my bag!

Bruce Anthony: Finally, in a fit of clarity,

Bruce Anthony: Project Pat says, Oh, that's not my bag. I'm sorry about that. He walked past me at the bus stop. Oh man, now I done missed my bus. And I said, yeah, cause you getting off the bus looking for bags. It's not yours.

Bruce Anthony: So he goes, Project Pat goes walking down the street and I look at no scrubs and he says, To me, Hey man, I'm sorry about that.

Bruce Anthony: And I said, man, you ain't got nothing to be sorry about. That was crazy. That was nuts.

Bruce Anthony: He was like, yeah, what was wrong with that guy? He was like, I think he's had some mental problems. I was like, I don't think I know he [00:09:00] does.

J. AundreaYeah, that's clear because my man got up, had the bus driver, stopped the bus middle of the street,

Bruce Anthony: middle of the street.

J. Aundrearan off to, but he had already put his little money in the thing to get on the bus. Cause

Bruce Anthony: No, no, no. Remember the bus is free.

J. AundreaOh, both buses are free.

Bruce Anthony: All the buses that ride in my neighborhood, ride in my city is free. The buses in my city are free.

J. Aundreanow. First now that don't make no damn sense. And I'm gonna come back to that. Y'all should be paying for the bus. 

J. AundreaIf 

Bruce Anthony: We do in our taxes.

Bruce Anthony: We do with our taxes.

J. AundreaOkay. Well then if you're paying for the bus with your, take that bus. I don't know why you was acting

J. Aundrealike you couldn't take no bus. 

Bruce Anthony: I am, I am taking a bus, but it had, it had to, the only reason why I started taking the bus is because my supposedly luxury building took away my ship, my free shuttle. That came along with me living here and they did it [00:10:00] basically in the middle of the night and just said, the next day shuttle service is done.

Bruce Anthony: And we were like, what, wait a minute. But anyway, go ahead and say what you was going to talk about with a project patent, no scrubs.

J. Aundreanow my question is what were you doing 

J. Aundreawhile they 

J. Aundreawere tussling? I was chuckling in my you know, cause you know, like no scrubs knows that that is not project pass bag.

Bruce Anthony: I think I, I think I, I think I said out loud, Hey man, that's not your bag. I think I said something, but, but they was tussling and I was, I'm going to be, I'm going to be honest. I was a little shocked by everything. 

Bruce Anthony: It's been a little while.

J. Aundreathat. I get that.

Bruce Anthony: It's been a little while since I've been. With, through some ghetto, this is my one cuss word for the day.

Bruce Anthony: It's been a little while since I've been involved in some ghetto shit. Okay, Okay. yeah, I was a little taken aback. Dare I say, clutching my pearls.[00:11:00] 

J. AundreaYeah, you should've. Yeah, I would've been.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, it's, it's been. Because I'd've been like, I know this act. The one time I decided to take the damn bus.

Bruce Anthony: Yes, that's, whoo! go, acting up. I used to be an avid bus rider and the things that you see on public transportation, the bus and the train, the things that you see on public transportation. I told you about the time I was taking the train back from Queens. Thanks. Heading back into Manhattan and there was a homeless unhoused gentleman on there trying to get money for some chicken. And he started making a song about all the ways in which he enjoys his chicken. He liked fried chicken. He liked baked chicken. He liked chicken. He liked chicken. He liked chicken legs. He liked chicken thighs. And I love chicken. Like, and [00:12:00] then he started singing about how the percentage of hunger. That he had,

J. Aundreahe said, I'm 99 percent hungry. It was, I had to go. Everybody's acting like this man is not there because it's New York. You know, everybody's

J. Aundreaacting like this man is not there. I said, I gotta get this man. This is creative and I gotta get this man some money. So he can go get himself some chicken the way he wants it. Does he

J. Aundreawant a chicken sandwich? Chicken salad? Okay. You want chicken nuggets, chicken

J. Aundreatenders? However you want it, sir.

J. AundreaYou, you're going to get it today. Okay. And I gave that man 10.

Bruce Anthony: Hey look, he got himself some chicken.

J. AundreaHe got himself to I He He got himself some crack. But that's fine.

Bruce Anthony: You don't know that. 

Bruce Anthony: You don't know that. You It might You don't know you're hungry after that.

Bruce Anthony: I think you Well, I don't know. I, I've never smoked crack, so I don't know.

J. AundreaI [00:13:00] don't either. I don't I'ma be honest with you. I'm sure somebody in the audience, if any of y'all are former or current crack users, please tell us do you realize you're hungry? After you've smoked the crack.

Bruce Anthony: Oh, this dude, 

Bruce Anthony: Project Pat had to be smoking a crack, cause, good God. And, they're worried right. He had to be doing something. You wanna know what's crazy? I had a bag with me. I just had it on me. Like I was literally wearing my backpack as opposed to the man had his backpack on the bench and I thought to myself, if this dude had charged me, what, what, what have I, what would I have done?

Bruce Anthony: And he was, the dude was young. The dude was, I say young, younger than I am. Right. But still in his thirties, he looks like he's in his thirties and he's struggling with the do and shout out the project pet. Cause he wasn't a young man. [00:14:00] Project Pat was older, at least 50. Okay.

J. AundreaI mean, not shout out to him, but

Bruce Anthony: but, but he, he wasn't letting go.

J. Aundreahe wasn't, he was holding on.

J. AundreaWell, let me tell you something. Ain't no strength like Crazy strength, There's just, there's no strength.

J. AundreaBaby strength. You ever seen a baby hold on or something? They get ahold of your earring or something. You can't get that little fist off of that earring. It's the same with crazy strength.

Bruce Anthony: Right. 

J. AundreaThat man got a grip on that bag. He wasn't gonna let go until his crazy ass remembered. He never had a bag.

Bruce Anthony: He was yanking. He was yanking and screaming at him. That's my bag. You're trying to take my bag. And in the same breath. Oh, wait a minute. That's not my bag. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. about watch. I

Bruce Anthony: Ladies and gentlemen, that's from the movie life. If you don't know, I can't help you with that. So that was one story [00:15:00] of my crazy day.

Bruce Anthony: This is the second story and I told you about this, but you probably forgot already because I I don't have a, I don't have a great memory.

J. AundreaNo. If and if it occurred be prior to me going to sleep. No. I don't remember.

Bruce Anthony: So I told the whole story on a previous podcast of my commute back from your place in April, how I was flying. Should I, should I name the airline? No, It'll be enough when you

J. Aundreadescribe it that Yeah. would get the general idea.

Bruce Anthony: I was flying an airline and my original flight was supposed to take off at one o'clock

Bruce Anthony: It was delayed an hour, then another hour, then another hour then another hour.

Bruce Anthony: I finally, and affordable airline. Wink. Y'all

Bruce Anthony: delays, I'm already at the airport. They tell us it's a delay, right, right after we're supposed to board. So the time for us boarding has already [00:16:00] passed. And then they say, Oh, the flight's been delayed. And the only reason why people knew is because I had downloaded the app. And the app told me before we got any emails.

Bruce Anthony: So anyway, they pushed the flight back and we didn't leave. We're supposed to leave at one. We didn't leave until five or six. I didn't get into, and it's an hour and a half flight. I didn't get into Baltimore until like seven. I didn't get home that night until like eight 30. It was a long, long day to accommodate us.

Bruce Anthony: For the fact that the flight was delayed, they gave us a voucher to use for future flights and it was the cost of their flight. And I was like, okay, bet, you know, I can use this for my flight back down to Atlanta for your 40th birthday party. So I was like, cool.

J. Aundreasounds good.

Bruce Anthony: I was like, you know what? It's only, it's only enough for one flight.

Bruce Anthony: So I'm going to buy my flight back and it, cause I found a good deal on another airline for my flight [00:17:00] back in August. And so I went on to the the voucher website.

Bruce Anthony: The airline that gave me the voucher, I went on a website, found a great flight that was very cheap. And I said, Oh, I can upgrade. So I upgraded to the maximum because it was still cleared under the voucher.

Bruce Anthony: I go to click purchase and enter in the voucher number. And the voucher number says available balance is like 9. Now the voucher is, At least 10 times that much, right? The amount that they gave me is at least 10 times that much, but they say it's only 9 that's available. So I'm reading through the voucher and, and I'm like, I don't understand this.

Bruce Anthony: Why is this only 9 available? So I go back to the voucher and the voucher says voucher is good for the of the flight does not include tax fees, seats, bags. I said, 

Bruce Anthony: okay. pay for nothing. Okay,

Bruce Anthony: back [00:18:00] to what the flight was. The flight was 29. So I didn't tell everybody what airline that was. All right. 

Bruce Anthony: Without saying it, the flight was 29.

J. AundreaMm hmm.

Bruce Anthony: But the airfare was only 9. The tax and fees were 20. That's the reason why I was only able to use 9 of the voucher. So I'm looking at it and I'm like, Oh, so the total value of the voucher is not what I could use because I'm not going to find a flight. That equals I will, and it will be four times as much because I found that I found a flight that equals what I could use for the voucher.

Bruce Anthony: But the flight was like 400. And I'm like, No, I'm not going to spend an extra 300 to use 100. And I was livid. So what I did was, is I went back to the Website for the airline and I bought my ticket home and bought my ticket there and I paid the same amount of money. Actually, I paid less for both of those [00:19:00] tickets that I did flying the other previous airline both times.

J. AundreaYeah. I, you know, my new thing is tweeting companies. 

J. AundreaUh, that 

J. Aundreaso I would just say, Hey guys, y'all gave me a voucher and it ain't worth a damn

J. Aundreabecause It's or 10

J. AundreaWell, here's the thing. The fee that's y'all's fees! It's your voucher, and it's y'all's I get the tax, and there's it's probably there's, I think, some other fee that I think is like a government fee or something like that. But the rest of it, that's y'all's this is your voucher. Your fees. You, this is, I'm paying, I can't even buy my seat?

Bruce Anthony: can't buy the seats can't use for the bags. 

Bruce Anthony: So the 

J. Aundreagreyhound,

Bruce Anthony: right

J. Aundreaokay? It's not, I need the seat. It's your seat. [00:20:00] You're charging me for the seat. I want to use the voucher you gave me

J. Aundreato pay for the seat that I'm paying you for. This is the This is why I hate everything. Listen. Because it don't make no damn sense. We live in a country that don't make no damn sense. 

J. AundreaNone of it. None of it. We got a story coming up that don't make no damn sense. These are your fees.

J. AundreaThis check bag fee, that's your fee. You are charging me the 35 whatever it is for the check bag.

J. AundreaThat's your fee. Let me cover it with the voucher that you get, or how about this? Don't give me a voucher, since it's clearly worth nothing, and hand me it in cash.

Bruce Anthony: What

Bruce Anthony: what what? Yes,

J. Aundreaexcuse me?

Bruce Anthony: so now so [00:21:00] now I realize what this company does just with their ticket prices the reason why they're so cheap

Bruce Anthony: is because They're like, since we control the fees, we're going to say the airfare is real cheap, but you got to pay for not only your seat. Well, I didn't, the airfare does include the seat. I didn't have to upgrade.

J. Aundrearight. Okay, but you thought you had the space

J. Aundreato do so 

Bruce Anthony: I look, 

Bruce Anthony: I don't have first class, but it's kind of first class, right?

J. Aundreanot anything like it. If you've been in for a class, you'll, you'll know, but it's not anything like it.

J. AundreaBut! It's as close as you can get on that airline.

Bruce Anthony: Oh, now airline. They might give me some free ginger ale. Maybe if I'm 

Bruce Anthony: lucky. Or they might just give me a discount on the ginger ale that they're already going to charge me 

J. AundreaThe voucher don't even cover refreshments on the flight.

Bruce Anthony: It might, the voucher might [00:22:00] cover,

Bruce Anthony: actually how would you use it? How would you use the voucher on the flight? Cause you gotta use your credit card. You gotta use your credit card. 

J. Aundreano, I would have a screenshot of that voucher and a voucher number. And I say, you figure it out. I will hand you my phone and say, you figure out how to get me that ginger ale. Using what I just showed you on my phone,

Bruce Anthony: Make it work. 

J. Aundreado that. Listen

J. Aundreato 

J. Aundreame. Now you represent this airline. You are this airline to

J. Aundreame. And I'm saying, this is your voucher. And that's your beverage that you try to charge me. And I want to use this voucher on that. And so I'm showing you this, you figure it out.

Bruce Anthony: We'll figure it out. Make it 

J. AundreaGo into the galley, talk to whoever you need to talk to. You can talk to the pilot for all I care. He can radio down to the tower.

J. AundreaI don't care. Figure it out.

Bruce Anthony: You gonna cause a scene and be barred from this airline.

J. AundreaIt's an airline that's known for people [00:23:00] causing scenes. So I'm not that.

Bruce Anthony: this airline isn't known for that. Not this airline. The airline that you're thinking 

Bruce Anthony: of is 

J. Aundreathe other one that

J. AundreaI'm thinking

Bruce Anthony: other one. It's the other one. 

J. Aundrealadies and gentlemen, two. All the

J. Aundreaother ones, JetBlue, all that, I think they all out of business.

Bruce Anthony: no, JetBlue still in business.

J. Aundreareally? 

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. They do, they do shorter flights, but they, they still in business. They still holding it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They still, 

Bruce Anthony: yeah. 

J. AundreaI didn't know that.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Cause I have a friend that's in, New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico. And they told me that Southwest and JetBlue are the best flights to get to DC.

Bruce Anthony: From Albuquerque. So but that's my craziness. That was just yesterday. That was everything that happened. Well, it wasn't everything that happened yesterday. That's just. The two top crazy things that happened yesterday. But there was something crazy that happened yesterday as [00:24:00] well that I saw, but you sent me the article

Bruce Anthony: and these Southern Baptists, that's all I'm going to say, but I'm gonna let you lead the conversation right after this break.

Bruce Anthony: All right, Jay, the Southern Baptist. So the Southern Baptist convention, the largest denomination of Protestant Christians in the U S recently voted to oppose the use of in vitro fertilization during their annual meeting. Okay. So why, they believe in personhood. Southern Baptist believe that personhood begins at the moment of conception.

Bruce Anthony: They are opposed to willfully destruction, or even donating to scientific experimentation of non implanted human embryos created in the typical [00:25:00] IVF process. Jay, do you want me to go down each one of those and then let you dig into them? Or do you want me to just read these off and then just let you dig into them individually?

J. AundreaNo, let's go, let's go step by step.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. Step by step. So the belief in personhood. Okay. I guess that kind of makes sense

J. AundreaNo, it doesn't. okay.

J. AundreaYeah, it doesn't. And that's, and that's, that's the point. It, it doesn't. So it's the whole, it's the whole argument, the anti abortion argument, right? That these embryos are people. Here's how you know that that's not the case. If I put a person in a freezer, they would freeze to death and they would die. But if you put an embryo in the freezer, that's how you keep it alive. So that's how you know, [00:26:00] that embryo is not a person. It doesn't have a brain or a heart. It's just not a

J. Aundreaperson. So have any organs.

J. Aundreathat's a clump, it's a clump of cells. So, so that's. Already dumb, but you have to understand these are not medical doctors making this decision. These are just, just un ill informed or uninformed, randos. They're just randos,

J. Aundreabut again, they're not making a, they're not making a decision. They're, they're incorporating this into their. You know, their personal constitution, like this, this has no impact politically, this vote. It does in the sense that anyone trying to garner votes from the Southern Baptist Convention knows that, okay, this is how far they're willing to go [00:27:00] in terms of, anti abortion and anti IVF Anti science.

J. AundreaLet's, let's, let's call it, let's call it what it is. Anti science. Right? This is how far they're willing to go, and if I want to garner their votes, that's how far I have to go. Right? So that's, and you already have Trump talking about, I'll, I'll walk side by side with you. Right? So, they tried it in Alabama. Saying that embryos were people and they realized, Oh, wait, the babies. We want so bad the, the, the white babies they want so bad. If people can't have them, if people can't have them and then you're cutting off their access, To medical support that could allow them to have children. That's a, yeah, that's, that's the classic [00:28:00] textbook definition of it backfired. Right. And they had to go and they had to backtrack and put protections in place for IVF. So this, this idea of, of an embryo being a person, it is this, this is people who, who don't have any medical degrees that are saying this. So you could take that with a grain of salt. Next.

Bruce Anthony: I just want to clarify the Southern Baptist convention in 1995

Bruce Anthony: denounced their previous, Incarnation that were for slavery and for segregation. 

Bruce Anthony: So it's not just white babies. They just 

J. Aundreano, no, 

J. Aundreano, no, 

Bruce Anthony: Baptist convention babies.

J. Aundreano. They want, they want white babies.

Bruce Anthony: They, 

J. Aundreacan say that. That's the truth. That

J. Aundreathey, they want 

Bruce Anthony: don't [00:29:00] know. I guess the 

J. Aundreababies. 

Bruce Anthony: got to push back. You know, 

J. AundreaNo, there, there's There's a concern. There's a concern that they won't exist in several decades. All right? There's a concern. And they have all these theories, right?

Bruce Anthony: yeah, the, the, the replacement theory.

J. AundreaRight,

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, 

J. Aundreawant

Bruce Anthony: it's just the reason why they're fighting immigration so much. Yeah, it's the reason why they're fighting immigration so much. This is because the great replacement there is that

J. AundreaThey don't, they don't care about Black babies. They don't care about Latino babies. They don't care about Asian babies.

Bruce Anthony: Well, there's some black and some Latino and Asian people in, in the Southern Baptist Convention. That's all I'm 

Bruce Anthony: saying. There's some, there's some 

J. AundreaCults, cults attract all kinds. 

J. AundreaWe 

J. Aundreasaw that it, we see it in every cult. They attract all kinds. And if you just look up the definition of what a cult is, I'm not saying this is one, but it's cultish.[00:30:00] 

Bruce Anthony: Okay, let's go on to another, another one of the reasons why they came to this conclusion.

Bruce Anthony: They have embryo concerns, a significant issue for the delegates was the creation of multiple embryos through IVF through the IVF process. Some of all of which may not ultimately be implanted, implanted, excuse me 

J. Aundreahmm. 

Bruce Anthony: IVF often involves creating multiple embryos as not all embryos may be viable.

Bruce Anthony: So they're like, so they're like, basically in layman's terms, they're like, look, y'all creating all these embryos to try and create these babies. But some of them are not viable, but we think that they're a person and y'all are just discarding them. So we don't agree with that. That's a concern for us.

J. AundreaNo, they're they're not even considering the fact that some of them are not viable what they're saying is that they exist at all that they exist and They are not being used they're being discarded and that's akin to murder. Okay, first of all, that's partially [00:31:00] true There are people who donate their embryos To other couples who, could not get, do not have viable embryos on their own, right? For whatever reason. So embryos can be donated, but it's true. They do make a lot of embryos in the hopes that one will attach, like one will be viable. One will attach. There's a, it's, it's literally, it's literally a gamble. It's such a gamble and you increase your odds of conceiving by trying to make embryos, right?

J. AundreaAnd trying to make viable ones. But again, these embryos, not people, they're

J. Aundreanot people 

Bruce Anthony: all the shots you don't take.

J. Aundreaexactly. if you, if you're entering into this discussion with the idea that [00:32:00] embryos have personhood, you're never, ever going, you're never going to convince that person. You're never going to convince that person. So. Yeah, I mean, a little bit of this is us preaching to the choir, but because, because they're already operating from a place of, I want to say idiocy, but a misinformation or they're uninformed, right?

J. AundreaOr they're, the information that they're getting is misinformation, right? The information that they're receiving from either what's being communicated to them by leadership in Southern Baptist Convention, or that they're getting from different quote unquote news sources.

J. AundreaI did the air quotes for anybody who's listening, quote unquote news sources that are giving them this information That is. Again, not coming from medical doctors or people that work in the fertility field. [00:33:00] You're already operating from a place where you're not going to be receptive to the truth and you're going to make decisions. you shouldn't be making. That's all I got to say about that.

Bruce Anthony: Next up government involvement. The CBC urged its members to advocate for government to restrain actions inconsistent with the dignity and the value of every human being, which necessarily involves frozen ambionic human beings. That's what they said. They're 

J. AundreaAgain, 

Bruce Anthony: ambionic human beings,

J. Aundreaagain.

Bruce Anthony: just, that's the only response to that one is First of all, the government don't have no business being in my private medical decisions, period.

Bruce Anthony: Well,

J. Aundreacare. the government loves being in, in private medical decisions.

J. AundreaYeah. So [00:34:00] this,

J. AundreaSo so a, that's a problem from, from the jump, right? 

J. Aundreayeah. So do these kinds of Christians.

J. AundreaThey love it. Yeah. They love it. And it's funny cause the photo in the Washington post that accompanies the story is it's just a bunch of white men

Bruce Anthony: Oh yes. be pregnant. Who, who, yes, they themselves can experience infertility. They themselves can be infertile. But they will never, they will never experience pregnancy. And they really, they're not medical doctors. They're not even women. They don't have no business in this conversation. The government doesn't have any business in this conversation. These are private. medical concerns, issues, procedures, processes between me and my healthcare professional.

Bruce Anthony: Well, what do you say? What do you say? Cause [00:35:00] the counter argument, I already see it on YouTube. The counter argument is going to be, there's a lot of women that, that agree with those men that are on that picture.

J. Aundreayou know how we say not all skin focus can folk,

Bruce Anthony: That's what we say just to let it out for our the audience that don't understand what that means. Just because that you come from a certain. Ethnic or racial group. That doesn't mean that they all identify with what think is important to the group.

J. Aundrearight? Just because you're black doesn't mean you can't be beholden and participate in the proliferation of white supremacy.

Bruce Anthony: Tim Scott,

J. AundreaBoo. Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: Byron Donalds, Clarence Thomas.

J. AundreaJinx one, two, three. It's the same for women in the patriarchy. Okay. lot of women and men, [00:36:00] not only participate and, and actively maintain patriarchy, they seek to disseminate their ideology. Just because you're a woman doesn't mean that you're a feminist. Just because you're a feminist doesn't mean you support all women.

Bruce Anthony: Say it louder for the people in the back.

J. AundreaJust because you're a woman doesn't mean you're a feminist. And just because you're a feminist, as some of my feminists out there or people who claim to be feminists, doesn't mean that you support all women every variation that a woman can come in. In every way that a woman can present and not just that in every way people who can conceive can present. Okay. So it's just like also in this [00:37:00] story, they talked about how 61 percent of the people in this Southern Baptist conference voted against having any type of pastoral leadership.

Bruce Anthony: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't allow no female pastors.

J. Aundrea61 percent that was not all men.

J. AundreaThere are, there are women in the Southern Baptist conference who feel as though a woman cannot be. a lead pastor.

Bruce Anthony: Quick detour. Quick detour.

J. AundreaOkay.

Bruce Anthony: We're going to get back to this, ladies and gentlemen, but I want to do a quick detour. I saw a clip of a Bill Burr standup

Bruce Anthony: and he made a point that, that, that I think Bill Burr is brilliant. And he made a point that I was like, Hmm, I never thought of it like that.

J. AundreaIs, there's been, ahead.

Bruce Anthony: What was he going to say?

J. Aundreais Bill Burr brilliant or does he just have a black wife?

Bruce Anthony: black wife effect. So he [00:38:00] brought up how men are being dragged because the popularity of the WNBA isn't going up.

Bruce Anthony: And he was like, well, wait a minute. Why does it fall on us? I don't see a lot of women in the stands. All you women loved to watch is the Kardashians and the housewives and love and hip hop you love to see.

Bruce Anthony: Women tear each other down, but when you have a bunch of women coming together as a team to accomplish a goal, you can't bring yourself to go to the game

Bruce Anthony: and it was like, why does it fall on us? Where are you guys? And I was like, huh? You know what? He's got a point.

Bruce Anthony: I'm not saying he's all the way right.

Bruce Anthony: He's got a point. So it's just like when Hillary Clinton was running for president and you had women at the Trump rallies, they were being asked the question, well, don't you think a woman can be president? And these were women[00:39:00] 

Bruce Anthony: saying, well, no, you don't know what can happen. If she, you know, has her period or something like that, you know, women are emotional and these were women saying it, so

Bruce Anthony: some of the biggest.

Bruce Anthony: Haters of women. Don't get me wrong. Men are still top on that list, but women participate 

J. AundreaNo, no, actually men are biggest predator, but the biggest hater.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. That's a good distinction. That's a good distinction. Yeah. Yeah. Biggest predator. That's Jesus. Okay. Let's, let's get back to this.

J. AundreaOkay. They did come up with some alternative solutions to IVF,

J. AundreaOh, I, I'm just, go ahead. I would love to see. 

Bruce Anthony: although the resolution expresses grief for couples experience and fertility.

Bruce Anthony: It encourages members to promote adoption and to consider [00:40:00] adopting frozen embryos in order to rescue those who will eventually, who are eventually to be destroyed. I don't, that's good. That I think is one good thing that they're doing in the height of this lunacy because

Bruce Anthony: there are children. thing that people are already doing?

Bruce Anthony: We're not doing at the rate that they should be doing. Yeah. Hey, why don't they, why don't they start? Why don't they start by foster? There are hundreds of thousands of children in the foster care system. care. Yep.

J. AundreaStart with you.

Bruce Anthony: They could, 

Bruce Anthony: they very well could. Good Baptist Conference. That's a lot of kids going to good Christian homes. Aren't

J. Aundreathey? homes. Good, good Christian homes. Um, problem? The expense?

Bruce Anthony: no, you Oh, is it? for the state. You get money from the state when you 

J. AundreaSo then So then what's [00:41:00] what's the

Bruce Anthony: Oh, well, 

Bruce Anthony: I, home.

Bruce Anthony: I, so what is it that the truth seekers, Is that, is that who they are? The truth bandits, they go to all these, I feel like I'm attacking Trump, but let's be honest, the Southern Baptist convention, they are conservative Christians, so they vote for conservatism, which Is the Republican. So they're going to vote for Trump, right?

Bruce Anthony: By and large, not all of them. Some of them may actually truly be Christians and have a crisis of conscience Mm hmm able to vote for Trump, but by and large,

J. AundreaI would love for one of them to ask Trump to spell Christ.

Bruce Anthony: well, actually Christ is really hard when you think about it.

J. AundreaNo, it's not Slitherly we we could spell Christmas if 

Bruce Anthony: Well, if you could spell Chris You

Bruce Anthony: it wouldn't T at the [00:42:00] end, Mm hmm. seem that's right. Cause that sounds like Christ. No. Yeah, it's a, you know, an I has several different sounds. It could

Bruce Anthony: Yes, it does. But be I, E, I, E, there's a lot of different sounds an I can have. And Christ is one. I would like to see them. This is a man who's been married multiple times, cheated on every single wife he ever had.

Bruce Anthony: with Stormy Daniels when he was with Melina

J. AundreaYes. Yes. So he, so she knows that He had unprotected sex with, he at least paid her off during their marriage.

Bruce Anthony: I will say having unprotected sex with a porn star is a lot safe, safer than having unprotected sex with, you know, some person off the street.

J. AundreaWell,

Bruce Anthony: is, cause sex, sex workers are constantly taking tests, SED tests.

J. Aundreathey have to protect themselves. [00:43:00] Yes, for sure. That's not the point. This,

J. Aundreathere's nothing I just want to detour. about him that upholds any kind of Christian ideal

Bruce Anthony: He has conservative politics.

Bruce Anthony: You're talking about true Christian, Christian ideals.

J. Aundrearight.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. Now he is not Christ like in any way.

J. AundreaNot even close.

Bruce Anthony: Do people understand when we say Christ, who we talking about?

J. AundreaOh, the socialist Jew from the Middle East.

Bruce Anthony: Yes. Yeah. that was brown,

J. AundreaYeah. The

J. Aundreabrown one. wool,

J. AundreaMm hmm.

J. AundreaMm hmm. Feet. Yeah.

J. AundreaYeah. 

J. AundreaSo that guy. Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Befriended people from all walks of life. That, that guy.

Bruce Anthony: so I was saying about the truth seekers, they go around, they do these interviews at Trump rallies and they brought up cause they, everybody is anti abortion and they, and, and people would say, you know, you can adopt the kids and the [00:44:00] truth seekers. I wish I can remember what their actual name was. But then they were asking, would you adopt kids?

Bruce Anthony: And to every one of these people that they asked that question too, they were like, well, no, I have my own.

Bruce Anthony: No, we have, they're from us. I was like, Oh, so you wouldn't take a kid that is not from you,

Bruce Anthony: but you expect other people to do it because you don't want this one thing. So your solution is something that you wouldn't do.

J. AundreaRight. Got 

Bruce Anthony: Got it. 

J. AundreaGot it.

Bruce Anthony: it.

J. AundreaThere are still hundreds of thousands of kids

Bruce Anthony: didn't need homes.

Bruce Anthony: Like this to chase the 

Bruce Anthony: children. 

J. Aundreasafe place. Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: most important thing. I don't know. To people out there, I'm reaching out to you guys. And I know this is a weird thing. I put my hand out. Like I'm actually literally re the thing that we covet most in life is a safe space, a safe space to be ourselves without judgment, a safe [00:45:00] space to be able to operate in a, in a walk of life that can give us happiness.

J. Aundreahmm.

Bruce Anthony: Hopefully we're not harming other people, right? Cause you got a lot that don't care about harming other people, but like safety and safe space, like the mental, emotional, physical safety. Right? Like what we all covered

Bruce Anthony: thing that we should be making sure above all else, because even people that don't want kids, even people that say they don't like kids still all agree.

Bruce Anthony: Children should be protected.

J. AundreaYes, 

Bruce Anthony: We were all kids one time. We were all kids one time and we know what it feels like to not feel safe, not feel safe. mentally, not feel safe emotionally. I feel safe physically. We've all been there. All of us as adults have been there.

J. AundreaYes,

Bruce Anthony: Why would we want to see a young, innocent child lose that light in their eye 

J. Aundreabecause because [00:46:00] People like this don't care the actual life of the child.

Bruce Anthony: No, they, you ain't lying.

J. AundreaThey don't care.

Bruce Anthony: So what are the political implications of this? And you said it at the top,

J. AundreaMm hmm.

Bruce Anthony: the measure that was approved. Once again, this was a measure that was approved under the, under the Southern Baptist conventions like guidelines and saying like, this is what we believe in as an organization.

Bruce Anthony: Right.

Bruce Anthony: This measure that was improved among deep concerns that IVF is under. Increasing threat from the anti abortion movement. These, these fears have spurred legislation at the federal label level from both parties.

J. AundreaMm hmm. 

Bruce Anthony: that means is with the Southern Baptist Convention saying, we don't agree with this.

J. Aundreahmm. Mm

Bruce Anthony: All [00:47:00] of this should be legislated. It will from those people seeking the votes from this organization that are courting the vote from this organization will be put on the agenda because it already has been. For 2024 

Bruce Anthony: during that election cycle. So this is, that's the implication, the implication, the Southern Baptist convention knows exactly what they're doing.

Bruce Anthony: They know that this was just a measure that was approved upon by them, but they also know that everybody courting their vote, is what they're going to have to be promoting in order to get their vote.

J. AundreaYeah. I mean, we already saw Democrats, in the House put up a bill to protect IVF nationwide and Senate Republicans blocked it. You also have this is actually a good thing. The Supreme Court unanimously [00:48:00] rejected a bid to curtail the access of a widely available abortion pill. Thank you. So you got, you got wins and losses on both sides, but, the Southern Baptist. Convention. Convention? Conference? I don't know which one. I don't know what the C stands for. The SBC.

Bruce Anthony: convention. It's convention.

J. Aundreais convention?

J. AundreaOkay.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Yeah. of members. Like I said, 13, 14 million people. The majority of which are saying this is something that's important to us. That can't go, that's not going to fall on deaf ears.

J. AundreaAgain, for people trying to court the Christian right. vote that can't fall on deaf ears. So you're going to start seeing more battles in Congress over things like this. You're going to start seeing more [00:49:00] legislation. People try to put different legislation forward at the state and at the federal level.

J. AundreaIt's a scary time. And, and, you know, on a personal note, you know this, that I'm going to be starting my fertility journey soon. And. makes me very nervous to do it in the South.

Bruce Anthony: Cause you in the South,

J. AundreaI'm in the South

Bruce Anthony: you in the South.

J. Aundreaand it's the Southern Baptist convention. Okay.

Bruce Anthony: Oh, there go Roscoe.

J. AundreaNo, no, that's the other one. That's Roni.

Bruce Anthony: Roni is barking.

J. AundreaYes. Because I didn't let her in the room cause I didn't want her jingling and making noise. So she is outside the door whining and barking to get in

Bruce Anthony: What's up? can't be next. You hear she's ridiculous.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. has to be where I'm at.

Bruce Anthony: And you, and, and, and you got two dogs and you about to introduce some children into this, in this foray

J. AundreaYep, and in the South[00:50:00] 

J. Aundreayeah,

Bruce Anthony: the Southern Baptist convention is running rapid.

J. AundreaAnd I want to be clear About what's also at play here. It is there are a lot of LGBT couples that use IVF to have children. They do not, Southern Baptist Convention does not want that.

Bruce Anthony: Do they think that, being gay or being part of the LGBTQ plus community is in, in the genes is in DNA encoded in the DNA and genetics? What do they think that more,

J. AundreaThey, they, from the LGBTQ plus community is going to lead to more LGBTQ plus people?

J. AundreaI think they think that, I think they think that it's a deviant behavior, I think, and, and they shouldn't be having children. And even though I don't know the [00:51:00] statistics on this, but I know a lot of LGBT couples that they're. one of the highest demographics that do foster and

J. Aundreaadopt. Mm. 

J. AundreaSo, and foster and adopt children. With special needs as well.

J. AundreaSo I have some friends and they have adorable children with special needs. And, so it's, it's not just that, oh, science to have babies. We don't like it. It's not just that it's also, oh, science to have babies. We don't like that. And also gay people can have children now. So it's a, it's a lot like, let's be clear about what's really behind it. It doesn't have anything to do with embryonic personhood, okay? It is, this is another way that religion, particularly [00:52:00] toxic Christianity like this, is weaponized to oppress and to disenfranchise. This is another example of that. No women in leadership positions. Really? A woman can't lead a church?

J. AundreaJust think about

J. Aundreathat. 

Bruce Anthony: kicked, they've kicked out churches that have done it.

J. AundreaYeah, including one I believe they reprimanded in Alexandria, Virginia.

Bruce Anthony: I didn't know that. You

J. AundreaYes.

J. AundreaBecause they said, just because just because they said they would be okay with having female pastor in leadership. Not just for the Sunday school or the women's Bible study. Actually, and you know who that disenfranchises the most black women, because a lot of minority Baptist churches are hit up by women, the [00:53:00] most of the women in leadership positions and pastoral leadership positions, they are women of color. So just think about this in 2024, that we still have to have the conversation of whether or not women can lead. That we still have to have the conversation about whether my personal medical situation is even up for debate by people who are not, don't have nothing to do with it. What my kids learn in school, how, how that somehow now up for debate. That they can't learn anything about, about, about black people and black history or indigenous indigenous folks history or anything and they can't learn anything. Now, it's cool for us to go through it. It's cool for Ruby Bridges, little self, trying to go to, the first school to be [00:54:00] spit on. It's cool for her to have gone through it, but not for your kid to learn about it? The whole system is broke.

Bruce Anthony: Message.

Bruce Anthony: All right, Jay. You wanted to talk about millennials and Gen Z 

Bruce Anthony: and this is going to wrap up today's episode

J. AundreaYeah. So so it all started this conversation all started and I'm gonna let you go Jay this conversation all started because I'm turning 44 soon and back in my younger years I used to have both of my ears pierced.

J. AundreaYeah.

Bruce Anthony: I I had both of my ears pierced Right before, right when it became a thing, because like most people only, most dudes only had one ear pierced. I remember I came home with both ears pierced and dad was like, you trying to tell me something? I'm like, no, this is a style [00:55:00] now. Yes. it's like you wear diamonds in both ears.

Bruce Anthony: I Right. this, but you know, not to, not to be toxic male, but the.

J. AundreaWait till Cameron and Dip said it. gets even

Bruce Anthony: literally, yeah, because Cameron 

J. AundreaYes. 

Bruce Anthony: a person that gave me the confidence to wear my favorite color, which is pink. I love pink is my, you asked me this yesterday. What's your favorite color in the blue or green? It used to be, and I still love those colors, but it's actually pink anyway.

Bruce Anthony: So I decided to get my ears repierced because I took the earrings out years ago because I developed a keloid in one ear which might not be a keloid. It might be an allergic reaction, but anyway, so I decided to get them both pierced and, and I was wearing them before we got on the air today. And just to show you what they look like.

Bruce Anthony: And my sister would tell me if I looked foolish and she was like, no, they look good. [00:56:00] And I was like, cool. I'm back in full effect. But then that got you going on, on a rant about millennials. Gen Z. 

J. AundreaYeah. 

Bruce Anthony: to just let you get into that rant because it looked like it was, it was going to be all, it might be good.

Bruce Anthony: It might be.

J. AundreaYeah, so listen, you know, this started also because millennials were saying that Gen Z is aging, that they're not aging as well as we are, right? I'm not on here to bash anybody. I actually really think Gen Z is amazing. They are changing culture. They're changing culture. They're changing work culture.

J. AundreaThey're changing social culture. And we all know that the. The majority of change agents, especially when it comes to society is, is the young,

Bruce Anthony: And they're the smartest generation because they have more access to [00:57:00] information and Yes. accessing that information Yes. to older generations that are dumb as hell. But 

J. AundreaYes. The fact that, again, the PDF seems to be the bane of a boomer's existence, but it's neither here nor there. No. What I want to talk about Is millennials giving Gen Z some grace because it wasn't that long. It was 10 or 20 years ago when we were their age, right? So, and we remember looking at Gen X in their thirties and forties and thinking y'all are old. We, we remember, I remember being like that. I remember being like that, but here's the thing. And that I want to get across to Gen Z. The way that time works every year, you're going to get a year older

Bruce Anthony: [00:58:00] Right. That's how that works.

J. Aundreaand that's how time works. And so your comments now about people in their 30s and 40s are not going to age well when you're in your 30s and 40s.

Bruce Anthony: Well, we did the same thing though.

J. AundreaWe did the same thing and guess what? Now that I'm in my 30s and 40s, I'm like, I'm, I don't feel that old anymore. At all. I don't feel that mature at all. Like, I thought, I thought,

Bruce Anthony: Those are two different things I thought 

J. AundreaNo, I mean, no, I mean, I 

J. Aundreadon't feel, Yeah, I mean, Oh yeah, physically, physically, you know, hangover. Back in the day, I could be out till 6, 7 in the morning, go home, shower, change my clothes, and head to class, okay? So, now hangovers last a week. [00:59:00] So,

J. Aundreayeah, they're not, they're not quick, okay? So, I get it. Yes, we are definitely not young anymore. But the thing of it is, and I think this is what young people don't understand and what they will understand when they get to our age, is that we don't want to be you if our life depends on it.

Bruce Anthony: Wait a minute. What?

J. AundreaI would not want to go back to being a teen and a 20 year old, 20 somethings. And I don't think most people in their thirties and forties would. And the reason why I say that is, is, because you become more of yourself the older you get.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. That's true. Yeah. Right. 

J. AundreaYou

J. Aundreayou learn set boundaries, but now to be, to their credit, Gen Z is learning this stuff much, much earlier, which I think is what's aging. Y'all are recognizing and confronting trauma [01:00:00] and that, that takes a toll, right? Y'all.

Bruce Anthony: think, you would think that avoiding your trauma through alcohol, And, and drugs would hmm. you. And it does to a certain extent, Yeah. confronting it ages you a lot quicker.

J. AundreaYeah. Oh, going no contact with a parent or, or standing up to your boss. That is some stress inducing, mm mm. See, the reason why millennials look the way that we look is, one, we've been through hell. If you look at what it's been like since 1980 to today, we done been through, we done been through hell,

J. Aundreaokay? 

Bruce Anthony: this is true.

J. AundreaAnd we cope the best way we know how, and that is by tuning out and turning off. And that is what has kept

J. Aundreaus young. out, turn it off and then turn it up.

J. AundreaYes, and that's what's kept us young [01:01:00] and then slowly we get around to setting boundaries and stuff like that. But the, but no, but the point is, is like you become more of yourself. You understand more of what you like, what you love, what you'll tolerate, what you won't tolerate. You're more comfortable in your skin and standing up for yourself. I feel like I gained a better sense of myself when, as I got older because I stopped caring so much about what other people thought. So, and I feel like that's so much about what youth is because you're still trying to learn how to be an adult. And you do that by watching the people around you. 

Bruce Anthony: Yep.

J. AundreaBut then you get to an age where you're just like, Oh, the hell with that. I'm just going to do what I want because I ain't got that much time left. You feel like you got all the time in the world when you're young. But so my, my advice to Gen Z for whatever [01:02:00] that's worth, you didn't ask for it. I'm a give it anyway,

J. Aundreabecause the show is called unsolicited perspective. 

Bruce Anthony: So this 

Bruce Anthony: is. 

J. Aundreathat you will be us and there is a generation behind you, generation I, who is looking at you now thinking you're old. And that y'all don't know nothing. the thing is, we got to stop doing this and recognize that our common enemy is boomers. That we don't,

Bruce Anthony: No no, I'm not going to. Yeah. So

Bruce Anthony: I think, I think, I think people need to recognize who they're getting their advice from.

J. AundreaMm hmm.

Bruce Anthony: There is nothing worse than an old fool.

J. AundreaYeah.

Bruce Anthony: And there's a lot of old fools and the millennial [01:03:00] generation

Bruce Anthony: and Gen X

Bruce Anthony: and in the boomers. Right.

J. AundreaYeah.

Bruce Anthony: And Gen Z is recognizing quicker than let's say millennials did.

Bruce Anthony: Of who are these old fools

J. AundreaMm hmm.

Bruce Anthony: that we should not be listening to. And even when we did recognize an old fool saying something stupid, we didn't correct them because we felt like it was not polite to correct your elders. Whereas Gen Z is like actually, you're completely wrong. And let me tell you why. And I like that.

Bruce Anthony: Now also Gen Z need to be open to listening, An older person when they're not a fool because we do got a little bit of knowledge, right? But but but I I trust gen z to be able to look at people Size them up and be like, all right. This is somebody who's actually got some knowledge I should listen to and somebody that's an old fool that I shouldn't listen [01:04:00] to because we got some old fools in our 

J. AundreaYeah millennials are not off the hook because I see you guys baiting them on social media. I see you guys baiting Gen Z on social Oh, we look younger than you guys. I'm 40 and I look younger than you at 25. Why are you doing that?

Bruce Anthony: You can, you, you're 40, 

Bruce Anthony: you're 40 

J. Aundreaa 40 year old

Bruce Anthony: and you recent Tisa now recent Tisa, then turned it into, into something. But also you listen to that recent Tisa story. That's an old fool.

J. AundreaThat's an old fool.

Bruce Anthony: That's an old fool, right? Cause, cause, I mean, that was pretty dumb. Now, she done turned around for herself. She made some deals and she's a good storyteller.

Bruce Anthony: Okay, 

J. Aundreaher thing. 

J. AundreaYeah. 

Bruce Anthony: her thing. She's still an old fool.

J. AundreaYes. Yes.

Bruce Anthony: So, you don't want to listen to her about relationship advice. Kind

J. Aundreasee what's the benefit of us. Telling Gen Z that [01:05:00] we're aging better than they are. What's the benefit for This is a young person that's trying to come into themselves. Don't act like you don't remember what that's like.

Bruce Anthony: of like my conversations about people recognizing what it was like when they were kids and wanting to be safe. Recognizing what you were when you were younger. Yeah, this 

J. Aundreadon't, don't forget just because we grew up and we've got grown people problems.

J. AundreaAnd let me tell you, grown people problems are trash,

Bruce Anthony: That's the reason why I wouldn't mind going back to being 20 something.

J. AundreaNo man, I just,

Bruce Anthony: Being broke at 20 is a whole lot different than being broke at 35, 40.

J. Aundreathat's true. Now That is true. 

Bruce Anthony: that broke was a whole different. It was like, I ain't got a whole lot of money. 

J. AundreaRight, 

Bruce Anthony: and they have in dollar bud night at Santa 

J. Aundrearight. 

Bruce Anthony: and college park. 

J. Aundreato do that.

Bruce Anthony: And it was, 

J. Aundreato go to Dollar Bud Night and you 45. [01:06:00] That's unacceptable.

Bruce Anthony: that's completely unacceptable.

J. Aundreaunacceptable. And even though it's a deal and we got grown people problems and grown people financial issues and that is a deal that we should be able to take advantage of. We can.

J. AundreaMy point is Millennials need to have a little grace with this younger generation. Okay, they don't like your crew socks. Guess what? I don't either. I've always, 

J. AundreaI 

Bruce Anthony: I thought, 

J. Aundreato ankle and I never look back. They're 

J. AundreaY'all get them horrible 

J. Aundreasock tan lines. 

Bruce Anthony: crew socks is coming back though.

J. AundreaNo, I don't want them to. I hate it. And I see people on the street with

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. 

J. Aundreapulled up 

J. Aundreaand I can't. 

Bruce Anthony: coming back.

Bruce Anthony: I'm not, look, there's certain things that I'm just like, look, I don't care if that's the fashion right now.

Bruce Anthony: I'm not rocking that.

J. AundreaI'm not doing it.

Bruce Anthony: I'm not going back to baggy clothes again. I like clothes that fit me. I have [01:07:00] a pretty nice body that I work hard on. It used to be better, but it's still pretty good.

Bruce Anthony: I like to show it all. 

J. AundreaYeah. 

Bruce Anthony: want to wear baggy clothes where nobody can see my cuts and builds. 

J. AundreaYeah. 

Bruce Anthony: to go back to that.

J. AundreaAnd, and millennials, millennials. We just gotta be honest with ourselves. There was a, I saw another article, I can't remember the publication, but I saw another article about, millennials, millennials. Not being like on trend fashion wise. Yeah, we never were the

J. Aundreaeighties was the eighties were ugly 

J. AundreaThat was a boy.

J. AundreaI was ugly. It was ugly the 80s were ugly

J. AundreaThe 90s were all right to a certain extent, but we were business casual in the clubs

Bruce Anthony: yeah, 

J. AundreaOkay, that was never Fashionable

J. AundreaNever fashionable It was just what we did and we need to start owning up to some of the stuff That we [01:08:00] did that that it just wasn't cool.

J. AundreaAnd we 

J. Aundreasure 

Bruce Anthony: I think when we look back at every generation that the fashion was like, I look at the seventies and I'm just like, no,

J. Aundreawhat was y'all doing?

Bruce Anthony: yeah, what was y'all doing? Right? Like we see pictures of our mom and dad in the seventies and it's like,

J. AundreaWhat's what's happening?

Bruce Anthony: what, what, what, what was you doing? 

J. AundreaWhat were you doing? right?

Bruce Anthony: And i've got personal pictures. You definitely got them 

J. AundreaI definitely got a, I listen, the number one person who was business casual in the club was me. If you want to know who was rocking a blazer in the club, it was your girl. If you want to know who had on flats and a big belt around my waist. And a peplum or a peplum top. It was your girl. I Subscribed to that.

J. AundreaI was all about the business casual in my 20s. [01:09:00] It was ugly

Bruce Anthony: sometimes you can 

J. AundreaOkay, 

Bruce Anthony: can bring stuff back and and still make it work

J. Aundreabut we gotta we gotta like let's have some Self reflection here.

J. AundreaOkay. Give these young people some grace and young people. Again, I know it feels like, cause you're young, you're 24, got all the time in the world, but the way the time works is that it moves forward.

Bruce Anthony: yeah, 

J. Aundreajust be mindful that the things you say today, it's just like tattoos. I remember

Bruce Anthony: Jay, this, this, this show has gone on long and you about to 

Bruce Anthony: go on these tangents. 

J. Aundrearemember we're going to cut,

J. Aundreawe're going to cut 

Bruce Anthony: cut pieces, but it was only like two minutes. Like this show has gone longest now and I see you get right going. I see it in your eye. 

Bruce Anthony: You're about to go on another, 

Bruce Anthony: you're about to go on another tangent.

J. Aundreathis is the 

J. Aundrealast thing, 

Bruce Anthony: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for listening and watching because this is a long ass [01:10:00] episode, but go ahead and say what you're gonna say.

J. AundreaI remember,

Bruce Anthony: on, hold on. I'm going. I'm gonna start this by saying, Jay, what do you wanna tell the people out there? And this is going to be yo wanna 

J. Aundreathis is going to be this is

Bruce Anthony: Alright. 

J. AundreaIt's

J. Aundrealike, 

Bruce Anthony: did it. Just go ahead, tell 'em.

J. Aundreawhat I want to tell the people out there, is your comments are like tattoos. A tattoo you think is cool at 18,

Bruce Anthony: Mm-Hmm,

J. Aundreayou might not think is cool at 38. And now you go on to trying to get laser removal and things like that. gotta be mindful that the comments you make today may not age well, 

Bruce Anthony: Okay. You probably around because you lost me on the laser, the removal. I 

Bruce Anthony: was like, 

J. Aundreajust, well,

Bruce Anthony: Well, you regret it. You 

Bruce Anthony: regret it. You regret it. Yeah. Okay. I 

Bruce Anthony: get it. 

J. Aundreathe decision you made when you were young.

J. AundreaOr fix something you said when [01:11:00] you were young,

J. Aundreaokay? 

Bruce Anthony: there and you went around, you went up, you went all the way around the block,

Bruce Anthony: but you, you 

J. Aundreasaid some things when I was young. And I was like, mm, that didn't age well,

Bruce Anthony: I have it. I have everything. I said, I stand on business with. Y'all

J. Aundreasome stuff when you was young. It don't make no damn sense.

Bruce Anthony: just said a lot of things that don't make no sense. I still stand on business about it

J. Aundreanah.

Bruce Anthony: because I'm an old fool.

J. Aundreayou would slap the hell out of yourself if you could.

Bruce Anthony: Oh, I would slap the hell out of myself because of my toxic masculinity.

J. AundreaGod, yeah, I'd definitely slap the hell out of myself. Well, actually, I would've slapped the hell out of myself, but now I realize I had ADHD, so I would've just gotten myself some help.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, I ain't got no excuse. I got no 

J. AundreaI just wanted to give y'all a good show full of content So I went a little long My ADHD is acting up [01:12:00] and I got hyper focused on a topic and I just kept talking and i'm sorry

Bruce Anthony: I guess if they didn't listen this far, they must have enjoyed it. So

Bruce Anthony: with that being said, thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. And until next time, as always, I'll holla.