Bruce Anthony Unleashed! A Journey Through Laughter, Lessons, and Life

00:02.86
Bruce Anthony
On today's episode it's the fiftieth episode and today's subject me my sister's gonna be interviewing me today. But first thanks first.

00:18.85
Bruce Anthony
The first thing I want to do is thank everybody. That's out there in the audience that's been listening and watching the podcast Fiftieth episode. This is a big deal I didn't realize it was a big deal in there till we got here and it's a big deal and we're not finished. We're gonna do 100 and then 150 to 200. We're gonna keep on going. This thing is not going anywhere. So first off I want to say thank you for today's fiftieth episode I felt like it was important because I've done so many interviews with other people who have shared personal stories and opened up and. You guys really don't know me even people that know me don't really know me so this is going to be an opportunity for everybody to really get to know me Bruce Anthony and who better to interview me than my sister j on jj what's up.

01:11.20
J. Aundrea
What's so brother you ready for this I Yeah this isn't goingnna be a puff piece all right. We're going with us. Lets.

01:12.43
Bruce Anthony
Yeah I mean yeah, the way you just the way you grinin and the way you you asked that question got me a more apprehensive but whatever. Yeah I'm ready oh Lord Jesus okay

01:28.48
J. Aundrea
Gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about it all right? you ready I mean the where where else to start, but the beginning right? July second 1980

01:30.74
Bruce Anthony
All right, all right? Well I'm ready So let's hit. Let's hit it. Let's hit it. Let's go right? Okay, wow, you really put my birthday out there like that's like you. You really like the okay.

01:45.12
J. Aundrea
Ah, we get you can bleep it out. You can bleep it out.

01:50.00
Bruce Anthony
No I know now people that that have been asking me for years like when is your birthday I know it's somewhere around the for for July like there's a lot of people that don't know when my actual birth date.

01:57.41
J. Aundrea
There The the lack of vulnerability is that deep burst.

02:02.81
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, people really don't know when my actual birthday is but now they do. Okay, yeah July July second 1980 the day after my mom's birthday I was my mom's greatest birthday gift. But okay, yeah, my birthday.

02:07.37
J. Aundrea
Yeah, no, they do now July second yes, yes, yeah, so what are some. Memorable experiences from childhood and now here's what I don't want you to do you talk about that race you and dad had where he fell at world war but okay I don't want to talk about I want something truly a truly memorable experience that you feel like.

02:24.61
Bruce Anthony
Okay.

02:30.85
Bruce Anthony
It should.

02:40.86
J. Aundrea
Okay, it really made an impact on me down the road something that I carry with me what is something from your early childhood. Really.

02:44.47
Bruce Anthony
Um, oh.

02:50.70
Bruce Anthony
Ah, mom and dad are not gonna like this so we were living in Illinois and we weren't living in the greatest neighborhood the hey guys it was rough. Ah.

02:57.12
J. Aundrea
Um, now we we we listen hey it was rough early years

03:06.44
Bruce Anthony
And I'm coming out the gate full barrel with this story So back behind where we live was an alley that led to a drugstore and it was a weird drugstore like there's a drugstore that like doubled as a bar and mom and dad told me never never ever ever go down that alley.

03:08.19
J. Aundrea
And. M.

03:24.38
J. Aundrea
M.

03:25.30
Bruce Anthony
And go to that drugstore but me being the person that I am why why can't I go because I said so wasn't a sufficient answer never is so I used to sneak down at alley and go to the drugstore all the time there is this one particular time there was this really foul smell really foul smell.

03:31.72
J. Aundrea
Right? It never is.

03:42.55
J. Aundrea
Spring.

03:44.72
Bruce Anthony
Smell that I had never smelt ever in my life. So as I'm trying to hurry down the alley. So mom and dad so I can get back so mom and dad don't know what I've done because I've stolen some pennies off a dad's dresser because he always had loose change I look over. And I didn't realize it at the time but I later through therapy realized so I'm my first dead body decomposing on the ground so that's a memory that's that's one of my earliest memories. I.

04:13.52
J. Aundrea
M.

04:21.74
Bruce Anthony
5 6 seven years old it's one of my earliest memories that just kind of just kind of like that stuck with me and I never told mom and dad because I would have got in trouble for going down that alley. But I learned I learned I learned then not to go down the alley now that's a sad thing. Another.

04:22.10
J. Aundrea
6 that.

04:28.10
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah. You shouldn't have been in that alley? Yeah yeah.

04:41.33
Bruce Anthony
Happy moment. Ah from Childhood I don't know if it's the happiest moment but it's one of the happy moments like mom and dad didn't have a lot of money growing up. We were not dirt poor but we were poor Sometimes the water got turned off sometimes electricity got turned off like people think that.

04:47.78
J. Aundrea
Um.

04:51.38
J. Aundrea
Yes, you.

04:59.61
Bruce Anthony
What mom and dad have now that's how we were raised and like we it's not we were poor but like we knew it but we didn't It was never like that big of a deal to us I Guess we just dealt with it. But every yeah we was like we.

05:03.24
J. Aundrea
It's truly not.

05:09.18
J. Aundrea
Right? Because everybody I knew was poor. So really truly didn't right.

05:17.56
Bruce Anthony
Like did nobody else have nothing so but this this was a thing and as I've gotten older I realized how much they had to scrape and claw to get it. So it's 1988 it's Christmas nineteen eighty Eight Nintendo had come out and I had been asking for a Nintendo I had no conceptual idea at eight years old

05:31.67
J. Aundrea
Right.

05:33.70
Bruce Anthony
How much a Nintendo actually costs so we were at Grandma and Granddad's house in Richmond and mom or dad told me to go get stuff out the car or something like that and I go in the trunk and I open up the trunk and there's the box for the nistento and I run into the house.

05:36.56
J. Aundrea
It.

05:53.25
Bruce Anthony
And I'm hugging and kissing mom and dad and it's not Christmas yet. But like it's like the weekend the week of Christmas and like that that Nintendo meant the world to me like mom and dad. Even though we didn't have a lot of money like I always had wrestling men always had transformers. You know what I'm saying.

05:57.88
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

06:08.10
J. Aundrea
Oh.

06:11.65
Bruce Anthony
Ah, but that Nintendo and now as I got older to realize how much the Nintendo costs how much mom and dad were making at that particular time and not only that but they got me the the game pad with the track and field and a couple of games that went along with it like that was one of my happiest memories from my childhood.

06:28.17
J. Aundrea
Now Do you are you positive Mom and dad bought that.

06:37.26
Bruce Anthony
Um, I assume that they did it was Christmas no no I didn't get to open it until Christmas day. It was a christmas gift.

06:37.83
J. Aundrea
It wasn't Christmas it wasn't Christmas it wasn't Christmas day when you got it. But right, but you got it. It was Laura you saw it early that it was in the trunk of their car. You know mom and dad are much better at hiding gifts than that and then.

06:54.84
Bruce Anthony
I saw it earlier but it was the week of Christmas. Ah.

07:04.20
Bruce Anthony
Um I think all of our okay.

07:05.56
J. Aundrea
And then the whole system track pad everything I think it'd be a interesting question to ask I mean it was just occurring to me why you were asking that question I was like how did Mama Dad shoot.

07:11.10
Bruce Anthony
Um, I'm gonna give mom and dad the credit on that one. Um I'm just gonna give mom and dad the credit on that one.

07:25.38
J. Aundrea
Then the tick because we had games duck hunt and the track pad mom was notorious for Layway Mom was yes that was her.

07:25.48
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, yeah, ah lay away lay away I mean Dead Mom was notorious for layway and dad was notorious for materialistic things at the cost of.

07:42.10
J. Aundrea
He.

07:42.75
Bruce Anthony
Responsibility like we like the water might be turned off but we go have Hbo. Yeah yeah.

07:50.13
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't gonna Miss Deaf Comedy jam. So okay, that's fair, you know our parent I think ah, an interesting thing about our childhood. You know our parents were very young when they they were children as far as I'm concerned when they met.

08:02.65
Bruce Anthony
Mom was mom had just turned 23 and dad was still 21 years old when they had me.

08:10.55
J. Aundrea
Yeah, um, in college no money up into that point had led not a they weren't sheltered but they had you know to true, pretty traditional upbringing to parents in a house in a you know neighborhood.

08:22.00
Bruce Anthony
And yeah, yeah level. Yeah.

08:28.36
J. Aundrea
Dead had a rougher neighborhood than mom but you know they of course had their ups and downs and everything in their homes. Um, but very young to take on 3 children college grad school.

08:45.31
Bruce Anthony
Yes, yes, yes.

08:47.14
J. Aundrea
Working living. Um so they we grew up with our parents is what I like to say um, we got to see how their work and their perseverance.

08:53.88
Bruce Anthony
A a.

09:06.19
J. Aundrea
Really shaped who they became now later in life but there were a lot of disadvantages to growing up with your parents including you know them growing up seeking jobs moving a lot. We were always the new kids in school.

09:09.99
Bruce Anthony
Yep.

09:19.88
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, always yep.

09:25.47
J. Aundrea
It felt like um I think you went to 3 different high schools our younger brother.

09:31.55
Bruce Anthony
I went to four different elementary schools two different middle schools 3 different high schools.

09:39.27
J. Aundrea
Yeah I thought I was the only one that went to one high school and I had to fight for that. Ah, our younger brother went to two. He had the most he had I believe 6 elementary schools. Yeah yeah, always the new kid.

09:41.24
Bruce Anthony
There.

09:50.16
Bruce Anthony
Wow Yeah, okay yeah.

09:56.28
J. Aundrea
How did moving around frequently shape your perspective on life. Do you think it had an impact on you.

10:05.40
Bruce Anthony
Oh yeah, it definitely had a profound impact. Ah I think that people that are close to me. How do I How do I say this people that have known me for a long time.

10:11.54
J. Aundrea
M.

10:21.73
J. Aundrea
It.

10:21.97
Bruce Anthony
Feel like they don't know me and that's because I didn't realize it but you couldn't really sustain deep friendships when you're moving all the time. There's yeah, there's no internet and there's no cell phones.

10:30.71
J. Aundrea
And it's the 90 s there's no internet. There's no cell phones when you move. That's it. That's it. Yeah.

10:40.55
Bruce Anthony
You moved and we didn't take small moves like we moved moved like we moved from Illinois to Virginia and then Virginia to Maryland and it was never like a ah short distance. So um, one thing that it it it gave me was I have an ability to connect to.

10:49.70
J. Aundrea
Yes.

10:59.35
J. Aundrea
M.

10:59.42
Bruce Anthony
Ah, variety of different people on a route never had a problem like making friends now I don't want a lot of friends because ah like you could never keep friends So I've never had like.

11:04.88
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

11:12.20
J. Aundrea
But yeah, right.

11:16.19
Bruce Anthony
2 of my closest friends right now they've known each other since they were eight years old and we're in our 40 s like I don't have that type my relationship is you guys my siblings. So um, you know it's been a knock for people close to me. This was a knock on my ex-wife.

11:19.14
J. Aundrea
M.

11:24.44
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so.

11:33.54
Bruce Anthony
You know this is just like you don't get close and and and I that's true like I don't get close you know, brought it up at the top of the the interview like a lot of people that have known me for at least a decade don't know where my actual birth date.

11:34.71
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

11:50.47
J. Aundrea
Yeah, so.

11:51.88
Bruce Anthony
Is because I just wouldn't be like yes, it's in July um, so I'm just private and distant. But at the same time it gave me this rare ability that makes me good at my my job that I make like my major job and end this with connecting with people because you.

12:05.92
J. Aundrea
And like.

12:10.58
Bruce Anthony
You had to connect with people constantly moving quickly and in a completely in different different environments I went from an all black neighborhood in Illinois to an I was the only black kid 1 of 2

12:12.28
J. Aundrea
And quickly. And.

12:28.15
Bruce Anthony
2 black kids in the entire elementary school in Richmond virginia so those dynamics in those different environments that you had to adapt to made me adapt and makes me able to connect with people.

12:32.41
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

12:40.17
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

12:47.57
Bruce Anthony
From all walks of life. So that's a long-winded way of answering that question.

12:50.91
J. Aundrea
No I think I think that's true I think that we are flexible and adaptable. That's ah, that's a key ah phrase in my job we have we ended up having jobs that. Require us to be flexible and adaptable. But we also I think and I think you'll agree that we exert a certain amount of control over our lives in in a way that we didn't have growing up and and I think that. The lack of vulnerability is a form of control. Um Sunday fun day is a form of control. These are things that you do so that you know exactly what's going to happen that day because you already have it planned out and it's the same.

13:29.67
Bruce Anthony
Okay, yeah, yeah I agree with that m.

13:43.85
Bruce Anthony
Yes.

13:48.39
J. Aundrea
Is the last week and the week before that and you don't want to deviate from it so that you have so these pockets of stability. Do you think that's true.

13:56.79
Bruce Anthony
Yes, yes, but also I chose to do something for a living and had always chosen. Whatever my major was the multiple majors I had the majors I had in college was chaos outside of that.

14:11.61
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

14:14.20
Bruce Anthony
And what I like to have is controlled chaos. So there is chaos and my schedule like when I have clients like things change. So like my schedule is always kind of flux except for that Sunday like I don't really like to deviate.

14:25.29
J. Aundrea
Um.

14:28.87
J. Aundrea
Yeah, me.

14:33.28
Bruce Anthony
From that Sunday and if I know leading into it that that Sunday is gonna be different than I make it that Saturday or I make it that friday one day I'm going to get my recharge so I don't have a whole lot of I mean I guess I do I mean I can always say if a client wanted to reschedule. No ah I tend to not.

14:37.53
J. Aundrea
Move.

14:47.88
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

14:53.19
Bruce Anthony
But yes.

14:53.51
J. Aundrea
But you're used to that chaos I mean it's It's a kind of chaos that you are fine with yeah.

14:58.65
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, yeah, but but when you say control like the only thing I would push back on is I don't try to control people. Yeah, yeah, yeah I would never try to control people I I want people to be.

15:07.10
J. Aundrea
No, you control your environment and yourself. Yeah.

15:17.90
J. Aundrea
Yeah, do you think that you're really allowing that by not being as vulnerable as you could be or as open as you could be are you really allowing people to be free around you.

15:17.26
Bruce Anthony
Free when they're around me to quote Jay Z.

15:31.81
Bruce Anthony
Allowing what.

15:36.60
J. Aundrea
Are you really not controlling that relationship by not even divulging your birth date.

15:41.82
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, come on now this is this this took a thisistic tire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, ah.

15:46.28
J. Aundrea
I Said this is not gonna be a puff piece I mean you gave me the questions you gave me questions and but but part of my job is to like look beyond these questions I'm listening to what you say and then I'm extrapolating.

16:00.48
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, yeah, well ah I guess the way you phrase that question. Ah, maybe maybe um at who yeah I guess I.

16:05.19
J. Aundrea
Questions from that. Yeah.

16:17.25
Bruce Anthony
Okay, yeah, no I Guess it's my control over relationship. It's my control over relationship I didn't realize that until right now but yet Absolutely absolutely me not be your vulnerables me controlling the relationship because at any point um.

16:18.94
J. Aundrea
M.

16:26.75
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

16:35.69
Bruce Anthony
I'm not allowing that person to hurt me. That's that you know hurt me to a certain extent if I if I halfway let you win Betrayal runs my version of betrayal. Everybody's version of betrayal is different My version of betrayal runs.

16:36.90
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

16:51.94
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

16:54.38
Bruce Anthony
Deep and like I get really hurt off of betrayal and betrayal could be a variety of different things. It could be a betrayal of my the 1 main thing is betrayaling my vulnerability if I'm actually vulnerable if I actually let my guard down and like tell you something real.

16:58.30
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

17:08.71
J. Aundrea
Um.

17:13.83
Bruce Anthony
And and and you kind of like portray that you ain't never getting that side of me again like ever. There's nothing that you could. There's nothing anybody has ever been able to do when they portray my vulnerability So I guess yet it is I guess I am controlling. Okay, whatever is.

17:16.89
J. Aundrea
Um.

17:30.48
J. Aundrea
But you know I think that's fair I Think that's fair for anybody if you um, give people that kind of access to you and they betray that trust I think that's. Think that's fair I mean I think it's okay to forgive someone but not forget and not and know that you can't travel down that road with that person ever again. Lie Forgive you.

17:47.48
Bruce Anthony
Oh yeah I forget I Forgive Yeah I forgive people.

17:53.80
J. Aundrea
But I'm not going to forget the way that that made me feel and I'm also know that I'm not going to be that person that version of myself with you anymore I Think that's fair.

18:00.78
Bruce Anthony
Yep, that's exact. That's me to T I forgive people like ah if somebody tells me hey I'm sorry I it I instantly I don't know what it is about me but I enslave forgive him because to me that takes a lot I mean but whatever it takes a lot for somebody to say I'm sorry and that's really.

18:05.53
J. Aundrea
I. Yes, you do.

18:16.37
J. Aundrea
Um, takes a laugh from me.

18:18.30
Bruce Anthony
You do me? Yeah I know it does because you I think you told me I'm sorry like 3 times in our lives and you should be sorry way more than that. But um, but like yeah, no, when somebody says I'm sorry like school. The relationship is fractured. Relationship is not going to be the same. But I don't I won't hold any grudge towards you.

18:36.85
J. Aundrea
Um, right? So I think wrapping up this this section of my questioning.

18:46.33
Bruce Anthony
Okay, all right.

18:49.41
J. Aundrea
Um, you know like I said earlier you know our parents had ah but growing up with them. It was a journey of watching their growth and watching how hard they work to get to a certain place for.

18:59.80
Bruce Anthony
Is.

19:06.99
J. Aundrea
Not just themselves like to feel like personal accomplishment for themselves but also for us as a family. How did their journey impact you how did growing up watching your parents grow up.

19:16.24
Bruce Anthony
Um, a.

19:26.16
J. Aundrea
Impact you.

19:26.99
Bruce Anthony
Impact me I mean they're my heroes and we got a lot of strong people in our family that I really look up to but the the top 2 are mom and dad like the ah, especially the older I've gotten like I'm 42 I'm about to turn 43

19:38.49
J. Aundrea
Same.

19:44.86
Bruce Anthony
And when mom and dad were my age. They had 1 child. They had 1 child in college one about to go to college and 1 at high school and they get right? Um I'm just looking at.

19:55.77
J. Aundrea
I cannot personally imagine it.

20:04.12
Bruce Anthony
The way I live my life right now and it is like the type of sacrifice and and we were growing up and we'd be like because we were selfish kids sometimes and you'd be like yeah y'all doing this for yourselves y'all could be doing this for us and I'm just thinking to myself like yo the sacrifice that they gave for us.

20:11.45
J. Aundrea
A.

20:19.70
J. Aundrea
Will move.

20:22.13
Bruce Anthony
To give us the things that they did because realistically there's only 2 things in my life that I ever asked for that I didn't get I can't even really remember the second thing I know there's 2 things but the 1 thing I do remember is that game boy Dan never got me that game like the.

20:27.51
J. Aundrea
Yeah, okay.

20:33.37
J. Aundrea
I Was gonna say that day I was gonna say that game Boy yeah you said it he said it.

20:38.10
Bruce Anthony
That game Boy Dad never got me that game boy and I made those tackles dead. You said if I made those tackles in that football game I was gonna get that game boy and then he was like okay if you make these grades on this report card I'm gonna get it for you and I never got it but he he made it up by giving me an ipod touch years later but notice their strength like to.

20:52.95
J. Aundrea
Yeah, but.

20:57.82
Bruce Anthony
To have a kid and here's a little thing that I learned as I got older kid is not nine months kid is basically ten months right so I'm born in July which means I was conceived late October early november and they met in college.

21:04.28
J. Aundrea
Forty weeks like in

21:16.30
Bruce Anthony
Maybe college starts at the end of August but most of the time college starts at the labor days. Yeah, so and it's not like they met on the first day so they barely knew each other before I was on the way mom finally said yes to to mary and dad because he asked a couple of times and she finally said yes.

21:16.70
J. Aundrea
Evening is semester starts it. Yeah yeah, master starts in September no.

21:35.86
Bruce Anthony
But it was a it was a wedding like I was there on their wedding day. Not born but I was there and to grow. Yeah and to grow as they were kids I mean they were adults but they were kids they were still in college dad working mom working at Pizza Hut Dad working at a gas station. You know.

21:38.19
J. Aundrea
Yeah I believe they were married in March. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

21:55.36
Bruce Anthony
Student loans warfare to get to the point where I'm 202021 years old and they build their own house. So within 20 years they rose from real poverty like poverty to.

22:03.27
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

22:08.80
J. Aundrea
M.

22:13.72
Bruce Anthony
Building their own four bedroom I don't know how many bathrooms was in that place but it was like what was it like four Thousand Square feet or something like that it was it was yeah they called it. They called it the the castle like a family members. They're my heroes because their work ethic and their drive to get to where they.

22:16.49
J. Aundrea
I Don't know yeah something crazy. Yeah.

22:33.25
Bruce Anthony
Wanted to accomplice and and and and to get there um have has whether I realized or not growing up had a lasting impact and now as an adult like that that drives me hey mom and dad had a way.

22:37.63
J. Aundrea
Oh.

22:51.30
Bruce Anthony
Harder than I do whatever I'm going through I can make my way through this mom and dad did it and I'm I'm their blood. So that means that runs through my veins too. That means that anything that I want to do I can do it. They did it. So yes, they're my heroes and don't be crying mom and dad when you listen to this.

22:52.50
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

23:04.30
J. Aundrea
You're right? and I think oh God you know how emotional they get um both of them and that's the crazy thing. It's both of them get extremely emotional.

23:10.78
Bruce Anthony
Whatever I know right? Both of them.

23:21.10
J. Aundrea
And we're filming this pretty much the halfway point between mother's day and father's day. So ah, you know happy mother's and father's day. Ah, so do you think in terms of your career path.

23:24.29
Bruce Anthony
Right? right.

23:39.47
J. Aundrea
And business. Do you think watch. There were a model for the career paths that you've chosen or the way that you've.

23:47.94
Bruce Anthony
No.

23:53.89
J. Aundrea
The way that you've just made the decision to choose different career paths.

24:00.27
Bruce Anthony
Um, no because mom and dad chose career paths that were secure like they knew they were always going to have a job I started down that road when I was going to become when I.

24:04.98
J. Aundrea
E.

24:16.20
Bruce Anthony
Got my teaching degree right? like I started that was going to be something secure I was gonna be miserable in that job because I need more I need more chaos I don't need I can't have something being so for ah now it's a different type but it's a different type of chaos like.

24:17.81
J. Aundrea
Um.

24:19.93
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah, um, kids are chaotic I don't know what you? yeah.

24:34.81
Bruce Anthony
Ah day and you do the same thing every day whereas my job now I don't do the same thing every day kind of sort of but I don't so no, not in not what I got from them is their work ethic though that if you're gonna do something go all the way with it like.

24:38.45
J. Aundrea
Um.

24:49.68
J. Aundrea
Um.

24:54.10
Bruce Anthony
That's your goal cool. Go accomplish that goal. So that's that's what I got from them cause they they were like this is what we're gonna go do and they went out and they did it so in that regard. That's what I got from but the actual career path that I've chosen doesn't necessarily correlate with.

25:03.26
J. Aundrea
Yes.

25:12.23
Bruce Anthony
With what what they chose to do.

25:13.78
J. Aundrea
I Think it does I think that the security that they provided gave us the independence to choose paths that had a little bit more risk involved because.

25:29.19
Bruce Anthony
Um, but that's but that but that wasn't your your question was did their choices determine my choice.

25:34.66
J. Aundrea
Did did watching them. No not determine your choice did watching them influence. You.

25:43.97
Bruce Anthony
Not not what what me watching them influence my drive and determination and my work ethic them always being open to us pursuing stuff pursuing passions.

25:49.50
J. Aundrea
M m.

25:57.63
J. Aundrea
Yes, they let us try everything that.

26:03.13
Bruce Anthony
They let us try. That's why I'm here. Um because and I think a lot of it had to do with look This is what we had to do because we had a family but we're giving you guys an opportunity to do something that you actually want and love to do if you can find something that you can make a living loving what you.

26:17.30
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

26:22.33
Bruce Anthony
Do go do that. So that's what I got from them because honestly I remember telling that his office used to be right outside my bedroom and he would be working all night long I had to stuff towels and sheets and shirts underneath the door so that the light wouldn't come through so I could go to sleep because he'd be working and I'm in. I'm in middle school and high school at this time. He'd just be working and I told him I was like I'll never want to work that hard if and it was no slight to him I just like no the way you work na I don't want that I don't want to work that hard now I do yes mom was always working like ah.

26:46.75
J. Aundrea
You think yeah. Even mom having 2 and 3 jobs our entire child our entire life. Yeah yes, yeah.

27:01.63
Bruce Anthony
She just stopped having 2 jobs like two years ago like mom always did that and I was like I don't want to work that hard now come to find out everything that I've chosen to do I actually do work that hard is just a little bit different. But yeah and I knew I couldn't be a 9 to 5 type person. That's what it was like mom or dad I didn't want to be 9 to 5 Um.

27:09.64
J. Aundrea
Yeah, but.

27:16.90
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:21.90
Bruce Anthony
And so from them I got their work ethic. That's that's what I got from them and and them being open to say go pursue your dreams that I got from them as well.

27:22.81
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

27:29.10
J. Aundrea
And you've definitely done that I mean I don't know how I even don't know how many majors you had at University you you ended up majoring in history pursuing teaching then not doing that then.

27:37.61
Bruce Anthony
Um, a well yeah.

27:47.94
J. Aundrea
You've been a coach. You've run a a wrestling company. You've barked and did you've trained I mean you've done a lot of things and even current you are in restaurant management. Yes I know because I had the ah there.

27:50.85
Bruce Anthony
Yeah.

27:57.36
Bruce Anthony
Ah I was in restaurant management I was in restaurant management.

28:07.40
J. Aundrea
I don't want to say a misfortune of working under you in management but I did yes you were my boss at 1 point um to be in a personal trainer like what and even now.

28:13.18
Bruce Anthony
Um I was your boss I was your boss.

28:23.47
J. Aundrea
You have several irons in the fire. What motivated you to explore all these different business ventures. Why are you doing this and how did I get roped into it. No I'm kidding.

28:24.30
Bruce Anthony
Yeah I got I got a couple things going.

28:32.91
Bruce Anthony
Um, ah yeah, if I'm not being creative. It's like a shark if I'm.

28:39.36
J. Aundrea
But what did you do? what is motivating you to do all of these different things.

28:48.43
Bruce Anthony
Ah, shark doesn't move it dies if I'm not being creative if I'm not trying to use if I'm not using my imagination on something then like I'm miserable. So yes, like even with personal training like I've been doing this now for 18 years

28:56.46
J. Aundrea
Mm.

29:05.66
J. Aundrea
M.

29:07.69
Bruce Anthony
18 years um like I don't take on any new clients unless this is real challenge like when somebody says to me I need to get ready for a competition that's a challenge they say I need to lose a ton of weight and they're and they're really obese. You know that's a challenge.

29:12.65
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

29:18.72
J. Aundrea
M.

29:26.25
Bruce Anthony
If they have a a condition like if they have trained people that had Ms. So train one of my greatest accomplishments to personal training is I had a woman who had Ms she was like 55 60 years old at the time and I got her to the point we were working so long and so hard. Ah, got to a point where she was doing non-assisted I don't call them girl or boy pushups or real pushups I call them assisted or non-assisted I got to a point where she was doing non-assisted pushups on her own and I was like that that so that gets that sense of accomplishment gets me on. It's.

29:58.65
J. Aundrea
That's awesome. Yeah.

30:05.28
Bruce Anthony
Selfish as well because when they accomplish their goals I'm like yeah you know I helped you get there. So I mean it's not completely selfless. But yeah, if if I start to feel stagnant I've got to go out and do something and.

30:08.72
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

30:17.84
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

30:21.21
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, like you know I created this dog walking company and it hasn't taken off quite like I wanted it to yet. But that's because you know I'm doing four shows a week and getting ready to add another mini micro show for a Youtube but I need to do that I need to have that creativity. Um.

30:34.91
J. Aundrea
M.

30:39.57
Bruce Anthony
And starting businesses are fun to me and helping people start businesses are fun. You know when somebody hires me to create a website for them or help them develop their business or help them with their marketing. Um, the ideas of coming up with logos and marketing strategies and and different.

30:46.40
J. Aundrea
And.

30:57.40
Bruce Anthony
Different ways that that they could go out and attract customers like that that gets my juices flowing so that to answer your question if I'm not doing something and something new I'm a miserable person.

31:01.60
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

31:11.32
J. Aundrea
And what's the most fulfilling thing to you in all of these careers is it helping people is it the saddest. Yeah.

31:21.54
Bruce Anthony
Um I love helping people I love helping people. Um, once again, it's not selfless though because it's helping people gives me an.

31:31.20
J. Aundrea
Yeah, well, nothing really is.

31:36.80
Bruce Anthony
I've had this conversation with dad before about Selflessness and and I don't know. But um, yeah, it's it's helping people but is also that sims accomplishing some setting out a goal and accomplishing it like that's the greatest high for me that is and it could be something simple like that that.

31:50.21
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

31:56.23
Bruce Anthony
Time where I decided to drop all that weight and I was like look I'm two hundred and eighty pounds I'm not fat by any means because the way my frame cares that but I was like I don't want to keep carrying this weight doesn't get older I was like about to get 40 I want to lean out and the goal was just to get to under two thirty

31:57.98
J. Aundrea
So.

32:05.35
J. Aundrea
You right? um.

32:13.90
J. Aundrea
La Okay, it looked suspicious because I hadn't seen you I hadn't seen you and it looks suspicious. You were still wearing your old clothes which exaggerated it.

32:15.79
Bruce Anthony
And then to go all the way down to 11 where you thought I was smoking crack I wasn't it was just hard work and determination. It wasn't suspensed you reads.

32:33.82
J. Aundrea
And it was suspicious.

32:33.89
Bruce Anthony
I was I was still because ah I was like oh I gotta to go buy a whole new wardrobe. But it's just that it's a sense of accomplishment. It's setting a goal and going out there and being like I'm a go do this? Ah, the podcast was something I've been talking about this for like 20 years now

32:46.62
J. Aundrea
Um, and.

32:50.84
J. Aundrea
Yes, yeah, it used to be internet radio show that was that that was back back then in the back in the days. Yeah, back in the days.

32:52.66
Bruce Anthony
And some form or fashion. Um internet radio radio. Yeah yeah, but it but it actually started even before then because my influence is being in the Dc area because I was so in the sports at that particular time especially when I was in college Michael Worldb Bond and tony cornheiser used to do this show on Nbc local in the Maryland error area which was a George Michaels Sports Machine it was actually a national show and it was David depree George Michael um

33:21.10
J. Aundrea
Um.

33:28.76
Bruce Anthony
Not the not the singer it was a former sports caster here in the washington d c area right? Michael webbon and Tony Cohenhiser and then Michael Wilbbon and Tony Cohenheiser spun that off into doing part and interruption on Espn and I was like that's what I want to do.

33:29.42
J. Aundrea
Obviously not the guy from Wham Obviously yes.

33:40.80
J. Aundrea
Oh yeah.

33:44.58
Bruce Anthony
I Want to be on Tv talking about things that I enjoyed things that I love So that's the reason why I one of my majors in college after I got out of Journalism when I realized that like I wasn't going to just be a columnist like I actually had to go do report and I was like no I just want to be a columnist was communications because I wanted to go into.

33:47.20
J. Aundrea
And.

33:57.93
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

34:04.12
Bruce Anthony
Tv broadcasting um and so I ah want a dad I dabbled I dabbled a little bit. Um, but yeah I kind of knew that this has been a thing in my head going all the way back to like 4001 which is finally.

34:05.15
J. Aundrea
And you did write for your school paper you you dabbled? yeah.

34:21.13
J. Aundrea
Um.

34:22.83
Bruce Anthony
Technology finally gave me the opportunity to rarely do it.

34:25.17
J. Aundrea
So what inspired you to to start to finally say okay today is the day I'm gonna do it.

34:32.17
Bruce Anthony
Actually it's an interview that I still haven't done yet. There's a young lady. Ah that was following on Instagram and she had a fascinating story and Marilyn you know I'm talking to you ah like.

34:41.34
J. Aundrea
Yeah, but yeah.

34:44.27
Bruce Anthony
I I'm putting this out there I Still want to do this and you said you've been saying that she's gonna do this interview and we text back and forth. But we still haven't done it I'm still trying to sit down. But now you now you've really stretched out and doing bigger things. You might not have no time for me now. But it was a young lady. She had done porn got out of porn. Um and she had a fascinating story about.

34:49.52
J. Aundrea
The yeah. You write. But.

35:03.55
Bruce Anthony
How she got into porn and and got out of porn. It just was a fascinating person and I was like you know what I want to interview you and she was like I'm down for it and so started the podcast because of that so I don't know if this going come back to bite me when this podcast blows up because she' is the initial she was the spark She was the big bang.

35:10.25
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

35:23.48
Bruce Anthony
To be like she said yes even though she still hasn't done it yet. She said yes and I immediately went out and bought equipment now. It was the shadiest shobbyies equipment there is but I knew that I needed to buy it and get it and get get started and then itll growth I'd.

35:23.83
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:39.14
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

35:42.89
Bruce Anthony
I'd get it right once I get going but I just needed to get started so she was actually the spark because it was something that had been in my head for the longest time and she said yes and I was like boom this would be a great first interview and just still hasn't happened but one day it will um.

35:49.70
J. Aundrea
And.

35:55.80
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah. You never know? Yeah yeah.

36:02.69
Bruce Anthony
What I'm not gonna ask anymore. You got my number we have texts We we have our we have each other's phone number this could happen but that was just that was the that was a spark and you sometimes you need.

36:11.25
J. Aundrea
This could happen. Yeah.

36:21.10
Bruce Anthony
And unusual instance or situation or person to say go do this now.

36:24.10
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah I think that's a bad I Think that's a good catalyst for getting started just that. Yeah I mean but.

36:34.39
Bruce Anthony
An interesting person saying Yes, yeah has a happy. Yeah I mean eventually there right? Yes, that's a good way to put it that yes led me to say yes to myself. Oh my goodness.

36:42.57
J. Aundrea
That yes, led you to say yes to yourself? Yeah yeah, so. I you know I am I have I have some pearls of wisdom sometimes I can contribute to Society. So We're 50 episodes in what are some goals that you set for this and have you gotten.

36:51.89
Bruce Anthony
That's like you cover number slogans out here. Yeah. Over.

37:09.31
J. Aundrea
Have you realized any of them yet.

37:09.97
Bruce Anthony
You know and the the person that sent this question in I told him I was like that's a really good question because I don't know that I had any goals The goal was to do it.

37:21.90
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

37:26.35
Bruce Anthony
And dad for those people that don't know our dad used to be a pastor and the one sermon that I remember the one that stuck with me is let the chips fall where they may Um, basically you step out there. You take that chance and let it fall where where the where it goes so I didn't have any realistic goals because I.

37:34.12
J. Aundrea
So.

37:46.20
Bruce Anthony
Didn't know much about podcasting I literally just started doing it and I said I will figure it out as I go along so I didn't have any goals initially and then me being who I am once we got started.

37:47.80
J. Aundrea
Shit shit.

37:56.51
J. Aundrea
Oh.

38:04.15
Bruce Anthony
The ambition started taking over and it was like oh I don't want to just do audio I want to do video oh I don't just want to just do audio and video now I want to put stuff behind a paywall. How can I monetize this now let me let me research and the monetizing this. Okay so this is how we monetize it on Youtube. Okay, let's push Youtube okay, let's push patriarch.

38:06.33
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah. M.

38:23.50
Bruce Anthony
Okay I need to do more clips for promo videos. They need to be better and the captions need to be better. Let me learn how to do that. Ah I tell myself how to edit I taught myself not audio and video edit. All that stuff gives me excitement.

38:36.47
J. Aundrea
Um.

38:39.50
Bruce Anthony
So I didn't have any goals now What the goals are her. The goal is to have an entire podcast and network. My influence. My influence is ah he's a sports journalist but he doesn't just do sports anymore.

38:48.20
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

38:58.87
Bruce Anthony
Dan Lebertard he's the person that I so I love Dan lebertard he's the person I still a famous quote is his I'm not telling you how to think I'm asking you what you like to. That's the basic theme of everything that I do it is stolen from him and he during a pandemic.

38:58.93
J. Aundrea
Um, you love you some Dan lovertard.

39:18.13
Bruce Anthony
Which influenced me as well to to come out here and do this podcast he left Espn and he started his own podcasting network and I'm watching him grow and succeed and obviously he had a different head start than me. It's not It's not a competition. It's an influence but what he's building. I'm like I want that too I want to do that too but just not solely sports related and he's not solely sports related. They've expanded out but but I want to encompass everything like I don't want any type of entertainment to be.

39:44.49
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

39:56.97
Bruce Anthony
Deprived of what it is that I'm growing and it's gonna be a podcast network What there's ways Tubi has every movie in the world I Want to do entertainment as well I see where it's going How long's gonna take to get there I have no idea.

39:59.68
J. Aundrea
Um.

40:12.50
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

40:14.84
Bruce Anthony
But that's the goal now and I'm not gonna stop till we get there.

40:19.44
J. Aundrea
I Think that's cool. Um, do I have to listen I think we know I have an aversion to work at hard. No I'm kidding Ah I could still ah guys I want even though I'm conducting this interview.

40:32.18
Bruce Anthony
Um.

40:36.99
J. Aundrea
Now my show Bruce show I feel like every couple of episodes I have to reiterate this.

40:37.64
Bruce Anthony
But but. Yeah, no, but people like it when we're both on here so you stuck when this thing takes off you stuck. But you, you'll be You're a creative person too. Yaall lot of youall. Don't know that she's not just a photographer. She's a director and and the part of that entertainment is gonna be saying hey Jay.

40:51.71
J. Aundrea
Yes.

41:03.10
Bruce Anthony
We need to do a movie. Let's ah, find some scriptwriters because you go direct it? yeah.

41:08.20
J. Aundrea
Hooray. It's exactly what I want to do work hard I Want to live a soft life and you are not helping me do that. How how do you see.

41:16.65
Bruce Anthony
You do a couple of movies a year you be I.

41:24.21
J. Aundrea
Your podcast and your role as host evolving in the future.

41:26.64
Bruce Anthony
I Never want to leave the role as main show host because this like no matter how far we grow as a network and as I bring in more people to do podcasting and once I Really really start.

41:38.45
J. Aundrea
M.

41:44.30
Bruce Anthony
Monetizing this thing like really getting real money from it and I bring in more people to do their podcasts and do their own streaming shows on Youtube or or other networks or creating something on Tobi this is still my baby I'm going to always do this what I want to do is get better as an interviewer.

41:45.17
J. Aundrea
But oh.

42:01.50
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

42:03.20
Bruce Anthony
And want to constantly grow and get better as an interviewer so I remember 1 time dad gave me some constructive criticism. He's like I don't want you to take this wrong way I'm like no give me as much feedback as I possibly can like I Joshua this is this is a shout out to you Joshua Shay the porn expert is was a journalist like. He wrote for newspapers and magazine had his own magazines. Um, and like watching some of the stuff that he's done I'm picking up on little tid butts on interviewing. So that's one of the main things I don't.

42:24.70
J. Aundrea
So.

42:39.65
Bruce Anthony
I Don't want to be my interviews have to always be conversations so that my personality can still be in the interview but yet I want to get better as an interviewer but also the same thing that I do with everything in life.

42:43.83
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

42:59.29
Bruce Anthony
Like I'm I'm a good organizer and manager and so I'm going to be overseeing the growth for this thing and the growth of other people. Um that I bring into it. Um, and so my role will change but me as a host I will always be here.

43:03.19
J. Aundrea
Um.

43:18.12
Bruce Anthony
And I hope to get better interviewing and speaking better stop taking so many arms and pauses and stuff like that. But that'll come that'll come with more time we're doing this.

43:27.11
J. Aundrea
Yeah I mean but if we're talking about having conversations. Os and Ums are just part of that I mean this part of conversation if we wanted if you want to keep it relaxed and natural and create a safe place for people to open up then.

43:32.88
Bruce Anthony
It is but.

43:45.48
J. Aundrea
Sometimes some odds and ums are going to be in there I don't think you should beat yourself up too much about that speaking of interviewing What are what is some of your most memorable memorable guests and what have you learned from them.

43:48.67
Bruce Anthony
That's true here.

43:58.53
Bruce Anthony
There has not been 1 guest that wasn't important and that I wasn't extremely happy to have done that interview afterwards. It's funny because it.

44:04.56
J. Aundrea
And. Yeah, please.

44:15.25
Bruce Anthony
Some some people I reach out to to interview. Some people come to us to be interviewed because they're promoting something um and you meet people and you read you say send me a little bio so I can come up with questions if I don't know them and I'm reading a bio but then talking to people.

44:17.84
J. Aundrea
M.

44:33.39
Bruce Anthony
You just find out these people are so fascinating. Um, there isn't 1 person that that sticks out to me because they're all important I had one of the questions that came in one of my former clients said who's your favorite client and I was like I don't have a favorite client like I got you look at it.

44:34.30
J. Aundrea
And.

44:41.40
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

44:48.89
J. Aundrea
M.

44:53.37
Bruce Anthony
Like that's like asking a parent who's your favorite child like you all means so much to me all my guests all ah interviews mean so much to me and they've all been really different. The thing that I will say.

44:57.86
J. Aundrea
So yeah.

45:04.17
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

45:08.66
Bruce Anthony
For those people to actually want to learn something as opposed to the shenanigans of me and my sister though y'all do learn stuff there as well. Yes, yeah, you learn stuff there as well. But the the interviews are pointing it there. There's a purpose behind them like if you listen to the interviews.

45:14.36
J. Aundrea
Yes.

45:20.74
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

45:27.77
Bruce Anthony
You will realize that everybody is interesting in their own way and I love having a set of questions and then they say something and I detour and I go down an avenue and be like Wow that was a nugget that was.

45:30.97
J. Aundrea
M.

45:46.55
Bruce Anthony
Really really deep really really cool and thank you for expressing that and that's the reason why I'm doing this interview because if people could come on my show and bear out their soul and tell me really private stuff about themselves. Why can't I do that for the audience.

45:47.34
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

46:00.63
J. Aundrea
So would you say that that's that would be the biggest lesson that you've taken from being an interviewer.

46:04.41
Bruce Anthony
Yes, the biggest lesson that I've taken for being an interview is open up a little bit more there there not Well I mean you're my sister you love me.

46:10.13
J. Aundrea
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. You're a cool guy and I think I think people would be happy to get to know you? Yeah I love you and that doesn't mean that I like you deaths that's a completely different.

46:20.45
Bruce Anthony
So of course you're supposed to say that. Ah, ah.

46:28.22
J. Aundrea
That's good for as a 2 totally different things. This is 2 totally different things. Yes, yeah.

46:28.51
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, well I will say I will say that I I do like I do think that I'm cool and most importantly, though it took years I like myself and I especially like the person that I am because I'm a much different man than I was. 5 ten fifteen and especially twenty years ago I like the growth that that that I'm that I'm maturing into.

46:56.67
J. Aundrea
Can you think of any particular things that were catalyst for these these growth spurts.

47:05.18
Bruce Anthony
You know what I'm going to really give her a lot of credit. My ex-wife before I met my ex-wife ah selfish self-centered.

47:10.45
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

47:22.80
Bruce Anthony
Egotistical and I had what is known and in our family This isn't a name that we give it but I give it the flair. The flare is you get angry and say whatever the hell is on your mind. No matter how hurtful it could be I don't do it anymore.

47:35.57
J. Aundrea
We do that? Yes, yeah.

47:40.89
Bruce Anthony
The last time I did it I did it to her when we were just dating this before we were actually a boyfriend and girlfriend and I said something to her and I'm used to so saying stuff like that and people combating me and she shelled up and began to cry and at that moment I realized what I had said and what I had done.

47:57.67
J. Aundrea
M.

47:59.74
Bruce Anthony
And so I made it a point I'm never going to make her feel like that again. Oh wait a minute I made her feel like that. How many other people have I made feel like that They just didn't express it to me right? then and there so it was really the calmness and the patience that I dealing with her ah because like me she had severe anxiety.

48:07.45
J. Aundrea
M.

48:17.61
J. Aundrea
See.

48:19.66
Bruce Anthony
Um, she would go into severe Bouts of depression and when you love somebody, you will do everything that you can to try and and help them and be there for them. So it taught me patience. Um, so I really give her a lot of credit for some of my growth. Ah.

48:29.85
J. Aundrea
See. Yeah.

48:37.53
Bruce Anthony
Ah, a lot of me becoming a man that isn't so wrapped up in himself other things I mean you, you're quick to call me out on my misogyny sometimes because it's a blind spot because I'm a man living in the man's world I don't know to to be a woman Luckily I've always had female. Best friends.

48:42.33
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

48:48.60
J. Aundrea
Yeah, you right.

48:57.18
Bruce Anthony
And and they've all been very opinionated and will tell me hey look this and that so it's really the women in my life. It is the the maturity and I will say the seeds were planted with Grandma mom's mom.

49:04.22
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

49:15.40
Bruce Anthony
Because she had been telling me these things since I was a little kid but when you got one So so much a little a little teeny dynamite stick. Um, but she had been telling me this is how you treat women This is how you treat people.

49:15.42
J. Aundrea
Um.

49:18.27
J. Aundrea
Very influential lady in our lives.

49:27.51
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yes.

49:34.90
Bruce Anthony
This this way this way this way but we have so many other influences that are doing other not say I was obviously influenced by my environment whether it's friends or family. Whatever um I acted a certain way and I would say she was a catalyst of it. Um, my ex-wife.

49:35.21
J. Aundrea
Um.

49:40.19
J. Aundrea
3 yeah.

49:53.26
Bruce Anthony
You mom various women that have been in my life have kind of shown me. You know the way you think sometimes is not that is not the right way to be thinking.

50:04.20
J. Aundrea
Yeah, so how do you think these all these personal The the amalgamation of all these personal experiences and marriage and divorce. How have they shaped your perspective on relationships.

50:12.86
Bruce Anthony
Um.

50:19.92
Bruce Anthony
Oh.

50:23.17
J. Aundrea
All the things you've learned about how to treat women and the influences of women in a life and now being a divorce a yeah.

50:33.53
Bruce Anthony
How they shaped why've been voice a for a long time. So I mean are you still a divorce a after 10 years yeah ah like I might for ladies and gentlemen. My divorce wasn't recent that was literally ten years ago

50:41.89
J. Aundrea
You're always, you're always divorced. So.

50:47.91
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

50:50.83
Bruce Anthony
Um, more than ten years ago actually um how has it shaped me.

50:55.20
J. Aundrea
In your perspective on relationships and marriage.

51:03.39
Bruce Anthony
I'm not opposed to marriage. Ah I will not I will well we didn't rush into it. Let's put it this way and and I'm not still not good at this ah in life.

51:12.90
J. Aundrea
M.

51:20.50
Bruce Anthony
I'm really good at seeing red flags and people and being like okay I need to keep my distance but when it comes I'm such a romantic I'm such a romantic and.

51:21.19
J. Aundrea
It's.

51:29.22
J. Aundrea
M.

51:34.98
Bruce Anthony
Part of me is always seeing the best in people is that Superman complex always seeing the good in people that I focus on possibilities that does me well in life for work and certain relationships but it does me really poorly in romantic relationships because I see the possibility.

51:41.17
J. Aundrea
Yeah. So.

51:55.20
Bruce Anthony
Abilities as opposed to the realities. So I'm I'm King of potential so I would say I'm not opposed to marriage I'm not opposed to to finding that that one person and i.

51:55.39
J. Aundrea
Yeah, you should never date potential. Yeah.

52:11.83
Bruce Anthony
Have tried to find that right person I need to reexamine how I look at things and stop looking at things from the possibilities and start looking at things from the realities because I've gotten into situations where I've stayed in situations longer than I should have because of the possibilities as opposed to realities.

52:17.39
J. Aundrea
And.

52:28.69
J. Aundrea
Is.

52:30.90
Bruce Anthony
That's something that I'm still. That's that's still a work in progress for me in general not just in romantic relationships. But in relationships period friendships. All of that partnerships businesses. Sometimes you have to look at the reality of the situation and not the possibility. It's great to have that vision of what could be.

52:40.28
J. Aundrea
Um.

52:50.57
Bruce Anthony
But also examine what it is So it's cool to look to the future but be present is what I would say that I've learned be present.

52:50.88
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah I mean you don't want to fall into cynicism I think it's fine to look at things and be like I Wonder what that could be like but yeah to stay grounded in the present and not be so.

53:11.97
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, where.

53:12.80
J. Aundrea
Forward thinking I think it is a good. So how do you as a person who doesn't open up what are some of the ways in which you're trying to in your personal relationships or are you trying to.

53:28.96
Bruce Anthony
I don't know necessarily I mean this is the first step right here where um I don't know like yeah I did if that that's that's a big deal for me I don't know like I've conditioned.

53:30.43
J. Aundrea
This is the first step. Yeah. I Mean you just you just told people your birth date. This is a big Deal. He.

53:46.88
Bruce Anthony
So many of my people that are close to me and and I didn't realize this until some friends of mine were like yeah you know you got to give Bruce certain heads up before you want to do things and this guy he doesn't do anything spurred a moment which is not true like. I will do things spur at a moment if I'm already been drinking then everything is fun to me. But ah yeah, so people people around me curtail themselves to my personality which is wrong.

54:09.21
J. Aundrea
See yeah.

54:22.50
Bruce Anthony
So for those of the people that are out there doing that challenge me a little bit more That's I mean I need people to challenge me more and also when they do challenge me I need to not fall into a shell people don't realize that this personality that you see.

54:22.68
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah, yeah.

54:39.91
Bruce Anthony
That that is me but also I'm very very reserved sometimes a lot of times Introvert Extrovert Extrovert Introvert Whatever it's called. That's that's who I am um so I guess people got people that are closer to me got to put the pressure on me and you know I'll try.

54:43.54
J. Aundrea
And. Yeah, yeah.

54:54.74
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

54:58.59
Bruce Anthony
I'll try. But.

55:02.93
Bruce Anthony
Also it gets to the point where this is kind of who I am like ah I'm almost 43 years old like I've changed a lot in my personality but some things just aren't gonna be changed just aren't changed like I'm gonna probably always be guarded. Ah that does not mean I won't.

55:05.29
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

55:17.87
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

55:22.53
Bruce Anthony
Get to a point where I will be vulnerable. Ah, but it that that takes a long while to get to that point and some people think that they get there quicker than they actually do and just like oh you know this ain't the same what it What you think it is quite yet.

55:23.24
J. Aundrea
M.

55:37.96
J. Aundrea
Right? Well I mean nobody's asking you to be vulnerable with 100% of the people that you meet I think that's dumb. Um, but can you teach your old dog new tricks. Absolutely it just requires positive reinforcement I don't understand why that you know.

55:40.65
Bruce Anthony
Like.

55:51.59
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, that's yeah, you can.

55:55.38
J. Aundrea
Why that saying is even exists. You can absolutely teach old dog New tricks I think I think it's ah finding the people in your life that you feel safe with and you feel like I could open up to this person and they'll respect and honor where I'm coming from and then just start there.

56:11.12
Bruce Anthony
Yeah I mean gear we'll get there. Some people some people out there no matter how much I try to hide. They actually see me somebody sent me something on Instagram earlier today and it was like this made me think about you. This made me think of you because this is who you are and I was like who.

56:24.50
J. Aundrea
Stop.

56:29.41
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, people normally say the opposite about me. But yeah, that's exactly who I am you actually see me so that was pretty cool. All right here we go How do I feel I feel good. Yeah feel art. Yeah I feel good.

56:33.20
J. Aundrea
Yeah, so last question, how do you? How do you feel last question you feel all right that this the last question but all right So looking back on your journey so far. What are some of the most significant lessons you've learned about life and yourself.

56:52.18
Bruce Anthony
Cheese Ah the significant lessons her okay people will tell you who they are um.

57:00.19
J. Aundrea
M.

57:08.18
Bruce Anthony
Um, things are not always about you.

57:08.73
J. Aundrea
So yeah.

57:14.20
Bruce Anthony
Love heart because you can lose it in an instant.

57:18.16
J. Aundrea
Very true.

57:22.39
Bruce Anthony
Tell people what they mean to you because you never know if it's gonna be the last time you talk to them.

57:25.18
J. Aundrea
A. Also very True. Yes.

57:35.97
Bruce Anthony
And live like there is no tomorrow because no matter what we attain here Materialistically We can't take it with us So I'm not reckless with money but I can save a little bit more but you know what.

57:45.64
J. Aundrea
Yeah, so.

57:54.63
Bruce Anthony
I'm not gonna take it with me and I don't know when my last breath is gonna be so if I really want to do something I'm not gonna deprive myself of that because at the end of the day when my life flashes before my eyes I would rather have way more happy moments than sad and the only way I could do that.

58:00.15
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

58:10.28
J. Aundrea
Um.

58:14.23
Bruce Anthony
Do what makes me happy as long as I don't hurt anybody in the process.

58:15.86
J. Aundrea
You gonna get all the pearls or wisdom on that on these this interview ladies and gentlemen you gonna get all that early bird catches. The worm you gonna don't put all your eggs in 1 basket.

58:21.30
Bruce Anthony
That no I didn't say that because I'm not trying to get up earlier. Well definitely don't do that. That's not true.

58:32.70
J. Aundrea
We lay down with dogs. You wake up with fleas 1 fish 2 fish red fish bluefish you go get a walk it well you know what I appreciate this I think I think I was a good person to conduct this interview I don't know if you would have been this forthcoming.

58:44.74
Bruce Anthony
Ah, we go go.

58:48.30
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, wait wait to give praise to yourself. 1 thing my sister will always do is get praise to herself. No, you were the perfect person. That's reason why I chose you because you you you are the person that presses me you press me.

58:51.86
J. Aundrea
With anybody else. Yeah listen who's going to my horn except for me nobody yeah.

59:08.67
Bruce Anthony
I'll never forget the 1 time he was like who who your favorite actors and I'm now naming all these men you like not one female and I was like ah damn like I didn't think of it like that just blind spots. So yes I knew Jagan has nothing to.

59:19.44
J. Aundrea
I'm still challenging you to watch Hidden figures I think you'll really enjoy that film and it was It was just on T and T the other night.

59:26.70
Bruce Anthony
Has nothing to do with the movies. It's just sitting down watching an actual movie.

59:32.80
J. Aundrea
Well get you get your ipad so you can have some other stimulus because you clearly can't sit still. That's the 1 thing you'll learn ladies gentlemen that Bruce will drive 10 hours down to Atlanta by himself help.

59:39.56
Bruce Anthony
Um, case is still.

59:46.90
Bruce Anthony
It wasn't by myself you was in the car with me.

59:51.63
J. Aundrea
I was sick and so I was useless. He'll listen to Dan Love tart the whole way. He'll cut. He'll move a washer and dryer when he gets there and still want to go out to this man's boundless energy is absolutely ridiculous and I'm pretty sure I turn my volume down but my phone is still going off. So i.

59:55.90
Bruce Anthony
The whole way. The. We I and I appreciate you conducting the interview I Okay well I mean on that note on that note, Thank you.

01:00:11.53
J. Aundrea
It is what it is Well I appreciate you sitting down for this interview you wrap up the shows your show you wrap it up.

01:00:26.58
Bruce Anthony
All the audience out there. Thank you would love to hear your feedback though some feedback in the comments section on the Youtube page subscribe to the Youtube page share like comment. Ah thank you for listening this is just the beginning like I told you we're only gonna grow further and I appreciate you rocking with us.

01:00:30.62
J. Aundrea
Yeah, but.

01:00:44.26
J. Aundrea
50 episodes. 50 episodes is bananas to me.

01:00:46.70
Bruce Anthony
Until next time fifty that's right 50 the episodes. Ah, ah, but until next time I'm a holler.