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July 16, 2024

150th Episode Special: Tackling Trump, Gun Control, & Relationship

Bruce Anthony hosts the 150th episode of 'Unsolicited Perspectives,' covering current events, presidential roles, political rhetoric, and gun control. He discusses the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, exploring its implications. J. Aundrea joins to discuss marriage, faith coaching, and a viral TikTok video about a woman's challenging pregnancy. The conversation delves into the nuances of relationships, faith, sacrifice, forgiveness, and resilience amidst turmoil, offering insightful and candid commentary.

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Episode Summary:

Welcome to the 150th episode of Unsolicited Perspectives, where the host, Bruce Anthony, delves into significant current events and invites his sister, J. Aundrea, for a segment on marriage and faith coaching. The episode covers a range of topics, including the recent assassination attempt on Donald J. Trump, a TikTok marriage story, and the dynamics of sacrifice in relationships. Through engaging discussions, the show navigates through complex issues with humor, insight, and candid commentary.

In the first segment, Bruce addresses the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump, offering perspectives on the implications and impact of such a high-profile event. Following this, the episode delves into a TikTok marriage story shared by J. Aundrea, highlighting the complexities of relationships, faith, and personal narratives. The discussion reveals the nuances of sacrifice, forgiveness, and resilience in the face of turmoil.

Key Takeaways:

  • The importance of examining toxic relationship dynamics and fostering healthy boundaries in personal relationships.

  • Insights into the complexities of faith and sacrifice in the context of marriage and personal growth.

  • Considerations on forgiveness, resilience, and self-worth in navigating challenging situations within relationships.

  • Reflections on the role of communication, understanding, and self-empowerment in fostering meaningful connections.

  • Exploring the impact of societal expectations, toxic positivity, and self-sacrifice in shaping personal narratives and relationship dynamics.

Notable Quotes:

  • "Every relationship is its own life. People think that relationships are easy, but love involves sacrifice and introspection." - Bruce Anthony

  • "Turn the other cheek, not to be meek, but to assert your strength before delivering a blow." - J. Aundrea

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Chapters

00:00 Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives

00:34 150th Episode Special: Current Events and Special Guest

03:48 The Importance of the Presidency

08:03 Gun Control Debate in America

10:59 The Attempt on Donald J. Trump

14:25 Sibling Commentary: Assassination Attempt and More

21:38 A TikTok Marriage Story

33:34 Relationship Dynamics and Divorce

37:21 The Role of Sacrifice in Relationships

41:26 Toxic Christianity and Women's Roles

43:57 Debating Relationship Coaching

56:34 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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Transcript

150th Episode
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[00:00:00] 


Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives
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Bruce Anthony: Welcome. First of all, welcome. This is unsolicited perspectives. I'm your host, Bruce Anthony, here to lead the conversation in important events and topics that are shaping today's society. Join the conversation and follow us wherever you get your audio podcasts, subscribe to our YouTube channel, or watch our video podcast.

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150th Episode Special: Current Events and Special Guest
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Bruce Anthony: On today's episode, it's the 150th episode and we're going to be talking about current events and my sister will be popping in to do a segment with me that went long. I mean, it couldn't be a 150 episode without my sister joining us, but that's enough of this intro.

Let's actually get to the show.

 

Bruce Anthony: [00:01:00] So we had something pretty significant happen this past weekend, and I'm going to get into that. There'll be a discussion about it. with my sister, obviously to get her thoughts and then we'll have some humor at the end, but we need to address some real issues. This wasn't what I had planned for the 150th episode, but I feel like this is important.

So I actually took the time to write. I haven't done it in a while. I did say at one point I was going to have a segment called reading where every now and then I was going to write because I was writing on a for a blog or our blog on our website, you know, it's up there if y'all want to read some of my work, but I decided that I wanted to tackle this very important current issue.

by addressing several different things. And Hey, y'all know I'm not a great order. Like I stumble, I stutter, these things happen. [00:02:00] And I know what I want to say at the end. I know the end point of everything that I want to say, but sometimes getting to it, I go around the circles and, and I may lose you guys from time to time.

And I didn't want to lose you guys. I want to remain focused. And the point that I'm trying to get off. So I wrote, I wrote that a blog that I'm going to put up that will be on the website when this show airs and releases. So everybody can read it and can share it. I'm going to read it to you.

It's not going to be word for word. I'm going to throw some ad libs in there. Not a whole lot because I wrote this in a manner of which I'm tackling a serious issue, but I mean, I gotta have some jokes in there. I just have to. So this first segment is me reading and then the second and third segments will be segments with my sister that we filmed that we're going to be filming.

Now, if you want to hear [00:03:00] the unsolicited version of what me and my sister think of the current events that we are going to be addressing in this episode, but you want to hear the uncensored version that came out yesterday. If you go on our Patreon page, patreon. com backslash unsolicited perspectives, the after hours uncensored, we talk about, we continue on the conversation of what we're going to be talking about during this show.

But it's uncensored. So some things that we can't say on the main show, we say on that show. So if you're interested, go ahead and join our Patreon page. Let me go ahead and start this reading segment. All right. All right. All right. 


The Importance of the Presidency
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Bruce Anthony: Gather around folks, because today we're diving into a wild, wonderful, and often ridiculous world of the president of the United States.

Yeah, that's right. The big cheese, the head honcho, the [00:04:00] commander of Chaos. We're talking about the person sitting in the oval office, making decisions that affect us while dodging scandals like they're in the political matrix. Now, why is this job so important? Let me break it down for you. The president isn't just a figurehead who smells, who smiles for cameras and pardons turkeys.

No, no, no. This person is the head of the executive branch, the commander in chief and supposedly the leader of the free world. Basically they're like the principal of a very dysfunctional high school where half the students are plotting a coup. And the other half are just trying to pass gym class. But hold up, let's rewind.

The framers of the constitution, those powdered, wig wearing fellas, decided we needed a president and not a king. And why? Because they had just dumped a king. King George III was about as popular as a skunk at a garden party. They didn't want to trade one tyrant for another. Instead, they created a balance system where no one person could hog all the power and start [00:05:00] naming themselves his majesty and demanding you kiss their ring.

Enter the system of checks and balances. Think of it like a game of rock, paper, scissors, but with vetoes, override, and judicial reviews, the president can veto laws. But Congress can come back with, nah, son, and override that veto with two thirds majority. The judiciary can declare laws unconstitutional, giving both the president and Congress the finger if they start acting crazy.

It's a beautiful choreographed dance of democracy. And sometimes, as in recent years, it's a political cage match. But let's talk about some of the all star presidents who have occupied this high pressure office. First up, George Washington, the OG of the White House. He set the stage by creating a cabinet and stepping down after two terms.

He's basically like, alright, I'mma head out. Don't get too comfortable in this chair. Then there's Abe Lincoln, who kept the nation [00:06:00] together during the Civil War and emancipated the slaves. Now, some of those slaves didn't get freedom until two years after the end of the Civil War, but old Abe had gotten taken out like Omar from the wire not too long after the war had ended, so that ain't on him.

Fast forward to Franklin D. Roosevelt, who served four terms. That's right, Bro was like three terms. Hold my black and mild. I'm going to run this back one more game. His new deal helped drag the country out of the great depression. And he set up social security, making sure all grumpy old people has something to complain about every month.

But let's not forget Linden B. Johnson. That's Baines. If you're nasty, my favorite president, this guy gave us the great society legislation, including civil rights laws, Medicare and Medicaid. LBJ was like, I see your social issues and I raise you comprehensive reforms. His term was like four and a half [00:07:00] migrating from the source.

He doesn't get the five Mike check because you know, that whole Vietnam thing. Now, why doesn't the president have absolute power? Because absolute power corrupts absolutely, and we don't want the White House turning into the next episode of Game of Thrones. The Founding Fathers were like, let's make sure no one turns this place into medieval fiefdom.

They were serious about keeping it democratic. The president's powers are limited by design. We've got this nifty thing called federalism, where power is shared between the federal government and the states. It's like a giant game of tug of war, but instead of mud, we get bureaucratic red tape. But you know, that just keeps things spicy.

And then there's a system of checks and balances. Congress can impeach the President. The President can veto Congress. The Supreme Court can tell both of them to take a hike if they start acting up. It's like a high stakes political soap opera, but with less hair [00:08:00] pulling and more filibuster. 


Gun Control Debate in America
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Bruce Anthony: But I'm going to take a 90 degree turn and hit another subject.

Let's be real. In America today, safety is a full time job. We gotta talk about the shootings and the mass shootings in this country, y'all. I mean, it feels like every other day there's another tragedy. Columbine. Virginia Tech. Sandy Hook. Las Vegas Strip. Pulse Nightclub. Emanuel AME Church in Charleston.

Tops Friendly Markets in Buffalo. Those beautiful babies at Evada Elementary School. Each time we hear the same thing. Thoughts and prayers. We've sent out so many thoughts and prayers, we could open up our own Hallmark star and the whole gun control debate. Man, this country loves its guns. We got more guns than people.

You ever meet these gun fanatics, they treat their guns like they own kids. Some of them love their guns more than their kids. Hell, your kids act up. They get grounded. The guns act out. It gets a nice little cleaning priorities, [00:09:00] right? Let's talk about Republicans. Man, they love guns. They love guns more than Kanye loves Kanye.

And that's saying something. They always talking about the Second Amendment rights. Don't take away my guns. Alright man, alright. Nobody's coming for your guns, Rambo. Chill. They always say, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Yeah, sure, but you never hear about a mass stabbing at a distance, do you?

You don't see someone crossing the room like, Oh, he's got a knife, unless he's Wolverine, but that's a whole separate issue. And then there's the NRA. Oh, these guys are something else. They're like, we don't need more. They're like, we need more guns to protect ourselves from bad guys with guns. So let me get this straight.

The solution to gun violence is more guns. That's like saying the solution to obesity is more donuts and Popeye's chicken. That's crazy. But you know what's even crazier? These politicians. They send out thoughts and prayers like they're [00:10:00] handing out candy on Halloween. Thoughts and prayers. Like that's gonna stop a bullet.

Hey, thoughts and prayers, maybe a bullet will curve. When the founding fathers wrote the second amendment, there was no national army. Our defense was made up of militias. We didn't create a national army until after the War of 1812. That's why the Second Amendment talks about a well regulated militia.

That's all we had to defend the country. The Founding Fathers were talking about muskets, y'all. A musket! You had to load that thing like it was a damn IKEA dresser. Ain't nobody gonna do a drive by with a musket. Ain't nobody got time for that. So what's the answer? But I do know this, we need to stop acting like owning a gun is a sacred right and start treating it as what it is, a responsibility.

Because until we do, we're just going to keep going in circles like a dog chasing its chair. Or, in this case, a politician chasing a dog. An NRA donation. 


The Attempt on Donald J. Trump
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Bruce Anthony: [00:11:00] Now this all leads me to the attempt on Donald J. Trump. First and foremost, I want to say that I'm happy he wasn't killed. I disagree with Trump on almost all of his principles in politics and life.

However, I would never wish death on anyone. Well, just one of my clients, but that's it. And we ain't got to talk about that. I think of people that have, I think of the people that would have lost their father, an uncle, a friend. This is not the first attempt on someone running for president, and unfortunately, it won't be the last.

What we have to be thankful for is that the attacker did not succeed. I saw so many commenters and politicians saying that we need to tone down the political rhetoric. So let's talk about it, specifically the kind that comes from Donald Trump. Now if you ever wonder what happens when you mix a Twitter account, Truth Social, with a megaphone, this is it!

This is your guy. This guy takes political language and [00:12:00] turns it into a chaotic symphony. First off, Trump has a magical ability to make everything sound like it's the end of the world. He doesn't just disagree with people. He labels them as enemies of the people. I mean, there are folks out there who think LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan.

They couldn't be more wrong than flat earthers. But just because I don't agree with them doesn't mean I call them enemies of the people. Then there was January 6th, right? Y'all remember that day, January 6th, where folks took storming the Capitol to a whole new level. They showed up thinking they were going to find some secret stash of democracy or something.

And Trump was like, fight like hell. I mean, it's only time that you could say something like that and not be talking about a WWE match between Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock. January 6th was more like a chaotic game of capture the flag. But the flag was the Constitution. And let's not forget the comments about immigrants calling them invaders.

It's like saying your neighbor's [00:13:00] dog is trying to take over your house because it barks too much. More specifically, my neighbor's dogs. But as I digress, making jokes, I'm not saying that there are issues at the border, but come on. These people are peaceful folk looking for a better life. America loves reality TV.

Well, this is the most realistic reality show that there ever could be. It should be called Escape from Oppression. Or better yet, Escape from Oppression that the U. S. has caused by its constant interference in political elections. Yeah, these people are escaping from some shit that we started. But y'all don't want to hear me though.

Y'all don't want to talk about that. But here's the, here's the kicker. Trump's rhetoric has made political violence feel more like a an acceptable sport than the act of desperation. I mean, if you go on Twitter or true social and you tell your followers to fight, you better believe someone's bringing a metaphoric sword to that debate.

It's like inviting people to a cookout and serving up a side of potato salad with raises in it. [00:14:00] You're creating chaos. I'm making jokes. But let's remember words matter. They have the power to uplift or destroy. And while we can joke about it, it's a fine line we're walking here. Let's hope that we don't end up on the wrong side of history. 


Sibling Commentary: Assassination Attempt and More
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Bruce Anthony: So as promised a little segment, a little sibling, happy hour on a Tuesday episode to celebrate our 150th. My sister, Jay Andrea has gone, has taken the time out of her busy schedule to join us on a Tuesday to tackle three subjects. And as I said, at the top of the hour or at the top of the show, if you want to hear our unsolicited perspectives, And uncensored keyword, uncensored perspectives of the assassination attempt [00:15:00] on the former president, Donald Trump, check out our after hours on censored episode on our Patreon page that released yesterday.

You can check it out at patreon. com backslash unsolicited perspectives, but J welcome

J. Aundrea: Yeah, I'm

Bruce Anthony: of. Look, 150. We didn't, we didn't made it. No.

J. Aundrea: I don't know where to go from here. I guess, I guess 151.

Bruce Anthony: Well, yeah, 151 and then 300. You know me.

J. Aundrea: used to be, uh, my favorite alcohol,

Bruce Anthony: Uh, that's because you're.

J. Aundrea: 151. Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: that's because you're a sociopath. Um, who would be drinking 151, just as the I'm just gonna have me some

J. Aundrea: 19, at like 19, it

Bruce Anthony: I don't know if I go in a liquor store, I don't even know if they even sell that in a liquor store anymore.

J. Aundrea: they do. I

Bruce Anthony: I don't see it.

J. Aundrea: in several countries.

Bruce Anthony: A lot of stuff that we drank back in the [00:16:00] day has been banned.

Like Four Loko, try to find a Four Loko.

J. Aundrea: You can't do it.

Bruce Anthony: No, you can't do it. Alright, Jay. Before we get into the other subjects, what is your thoughts about the assassination attempt, former president of Donald Trump

J. Aundrea: Fake news. No, I'm kidding. Um,

Bruce Anthony: was about to say,

J. Aundrea: it sure did look like, it sure did look staged. Nobody ran, the Secret Service actually let him stop and put that fist up. It looked like ketchup on the side of his face. Like, okay, now we know there was a shooter. He was taken out by Secret Service. Thomas

Bruce Anthony: else died, somebody else died.

J. Aundrea: Several people were were, were injured. So we do know that it wasn't an actual attempt on his, I guess, on

Bruce Anthony: It was, it [00:17:00] was an actual attempt.

J. Aundrea: Yeah. All right. And,

Bruce Anthony: And Jay, it was stopped. It was an actual attempt on his life.

J. Aundrea: no, I know. 

Bruce Anthony: Remember, this is the main show. You can, you can say which other stuff on uncensored, but just remember.

J. Aundrea: yeah, yeah, no, it sucks because, we're never going to not hear about this. Like, we're going to hear about this forever.

There's no way Trump is going to not t shirts, and he's going to be coming out to, I don't know, 50 cent music maybe. Many men wish death upon me. Like I feel like, of course, black Twitter is already having a field day with this, but like, we're going to have to hear about this.

Bruce Anthony: Mm hmm,

J. Aundrea: Forever. this is definitely going to affect the [00:18:00] election

Bruce Anthony: mm hmm,

J. Aundrea: They're going to be people who are like, Oh, look, look, see, they're scared of us. That means we're on the, we're on the right track, you know? So that's definitely gonna, you're going to see a boost in his poll numbers. I saw one meme that said Biden only, he got to come out as bi, like that's the only way,

Bruce Anthony: I did see that.

J. Aundrea: you know this is definitely. ended up being a boon for him. I don't know if was supposed to be. That's the thing, I really don't know the we don't know what the intent of the shooter was and we We're never going to know now because he's dead, unless he leaves something behind, telling us what was the purpose for this.

Because as far as we know so far, he's a registered Republican. He's young. He's only 20 years old. I don't even think he's [00:19:00] had an opportunity to vote in his first election yet.

Bruce Anthony: If he's 20, then he, then he hasn't, then he hasn't

J. Aundrea: we don't know yet. So. I'm just glad, you know, he's not black

Bruce Anthony: Jesus. You're also glad that like, nevermind. I'm not even going to go there. I'm not going to go there. I'm not even going to ask.

J. Aundrea: I wish he had never taken the shot at all.

Bruce Anthony: Yes. Yes.

Wish death upon anybody personally. Well, there is one person I got a former client. I got a former client. I do wish death upon, but, but generally speaking, I don't wish death. I don't agree with his policies. I don't particularly like him as a person, but I don't, I didn't want him to be dead.

I'm unalive. I don't want him to be unalive. So,

J. Aundrea: Yeah, I mean, [00:20:00] we're, we're both want the same thing, but for different reasons. I think it would have been, what it is, which is a political nightmare to shoot at him and. and I mean, I wish you had never taken the shot at all and let us just fight it out in November. Like, what are you even doing?

Bruce Anthony: well,

J. Aundrea: innocent people in the process and killed somebody in the process. So it's like, I mean, of course, again, these AR style, you know, AR 15 rifles, somebody, I mean, is anybody going to do anything about that? Probably

Bruce Anthony: no, no.

J. Aundrea: You

Bruce Anthony: not going to do anything about that.

J. Aundrea: you

Bruce Anthony: Um,

J. Aundrea: one of their own, a young a young white kid, Republican gun enthusiast.

Like, this is one of their, Oh, what is the explanation for this? I don't know.

Bruce Anthony: yeah,

J. Aundrea: I wish it didn't happen. I mean, this is just [00:21:00] a nightmare

Bruce Anthony: yeah, yeah. But

J. Aundrea: about it.

Bruce Anthony: there's a lot of time between now and November, you know, it's almost four months away, a little less than four months away. So there's a lot in the political world. There's a million and one things that can happen between now and then. Um, so, but I mean, yeah, that's where we're at with that.

 

Bruce Anthony: Uh, and a very, very awkward detour, extremely awkward detour. 


A TikTok Marriage Story
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Bruce Anthony: You sent me something last week. Uh, a series with this woman on tiktok. Can you explain to the audience what you sent me and then we can talk about it.

J. Aundrea: So this young lady on Tik Tok has been married for several [00:22:00] years. And she markets herself as a faith and marriage coach. Now, not counselor. You got to be very clear with your language because counselors require some sort of certification or education, but coaches. Coaches don't, you can just say you're a coach and there are so many people here Atlanta.

I don't know that this young lady is in Atlanta, but I know there's so many people here in Atlanta that love saying that they're life coaches and just buy my seminar and all this kind of thing. So this is a business. Okay. So she gets on Tik TOK and she tells the story of how God restored her marriage.

Bruce Anthony: Mm hmm.

J. Aundrea: And so everybody's tuned in to figure out what happened in your marriage. How did God restore it? We would love to hear a lovely testimony. This testimony was not lovely. So basically what happened was she was married. She is married to this man. They are still married. [00:23:00] And she got pregnant with their second child and he was just, he was uninterested in her uninterested in the marriage, uninterested in this new child, and he basically left her, abandoned her while she was pregnant to go and live with his girlfriend. And this woman, she peddles that kind of Christianity where, abuse and self sacrifice in women is what's next to godliness, right?

Bruce Anthony: Mm hmm.

J. Aundrea: so it's like, it's okay if you let, People walk all over you, use and abuse you, abandon you. You should welcome them back with open arms type of thing. Cause be a Christian and forgive. So he's gone the entire pregnancy up to the day she gives birth. She sends him a sonogram. He doesn't even reply. Like they have no [00:24:00] communication.

Bruce Anthony: You're forgetting something very, very major when he's gone. He's in another relationship.

J. Aundrea: Yeah. He went, he left to live with his girlfriend.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Well, no, he was living with his mama. He wasn't living with the girlfriend. He was living with his mama

J. Aundrea: you're right. He left. He laid, he leaves her. This is a woman that he works with. Then, uh, Um, best. They have their life now. The mama is telling her, the mother in law is telling her, you know, he seems happy. They seem happy together. I don't know why she's still talking to this mother in law, but

Bruce Anthony: because other people are not like us and emotionally cut off other people in their lives. You know, you know, some people, they, they have relationships with, with, you know, their in laws and no matter the marriage ends, they still got a relationship with the in laws.

J. Aundrea: right. So, uh, well, no, we've seen it in our own family. So

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, I'm a prime example of [00:25:00] it. I still have a very good relationship with my, with my former father in law. So it happens.

J. Aundrea: Yeah. and so up to the day she gives birth, her mother, Ends up calling him like, Hey, she's giving birth. he shows up at the hospital. They really don't talk to each other. He, he does hold her cause the doctor asked him to when she's getting her epidural,

but other the doctor don't know that they're not together.

don't know that they're not together. The other than that, really no communication the whole time she's giving birth. Like, that's probably the most awkward hospital room ever, okay?

Bruce Anthony: forget, you forgot to talk about her prophecy. 

J. Aundrea: Okay. Yeah, so, this entire time that they've been apart, she's been having these, in her mind, prophetic dreams. That they're gonna, God's gonna restore [00:26:00] their marriage, and that's the, that's the dreams that she's having. That, that, just, you know, just wait. He'll, you know, I'll restore your marriage. So she's been having these, quote unquote, Prophetic dreams and we're watching stuff on YouTube from these quote unquote prophetic ministers saying oh something's gonna happen in three days in three days something's gonna happen and what happened was she went into labor and The husband showed up so in her mind now Chances are something is gonna happen in three days If I say that right now, that's not me being prophetic. That's just probably gonna happen in three days You You stub your toe, you get, you get paid. I mean, anything can happen. So this, you know, okay, but okay, for some reason this person who pre recorded this on YouTube was speaking prophecy [00:27:00] over yo specific life. Okay, So, She has the baby, he's there for a little while, then he gets a call, she sees on the, you know, that it's the girlfriend, right?

So he leaves. Cuz this girl is calling him.

Bruce Anthony: This is, this is the day that she gave birth,

J. Aundrea: Yes, this is the day after he's been absent this entire time.

Bruce Anthony: but he was there for the birth of the baby.

J. Aundrea: He was there for the birth of the baby only because her mother called him.

Bruce Anthony: Well, yeah,

J. Aundrea: Otherwise he wouldn't have known

Bruce Anthony: yeah, he wouldn't have known.

J. Aundrea: her mother to call him.

Bruce Anthony: This is true.

J. Aundrea: So I think it's like a couple of days later or something. He wants to come by again for some reason.

I can't remember what it was, but she says, Oh, the Lord told me just hug him, just hug him. He needs a hug. And so she, he's about to leave and she goes [00:28:00] up, she hugs him and he. When somebody asks you, Oh, what was that for? It was cause they wasn't expecting it, honestly. Like, and

Bruce Anthony: You hit that. You hit that. Oh, what was that for?

J. Aundrea: yeah, because the implication is that was weird.

Would you do that for right? Like that,

Bruce Anthony: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

J. Aundrea: ask that you guys. It's not, they don't mean it. That's what they really mean when they say that. So she just says, Oh, I don't know. I just felt like I needed to give you a hug. So he leaves and what he tells her is that he a feeling that he wants to go back to his wife.

And so he calls his mother and she tells him, well, go on back. And so he goes back and they are, you know, just laying in bed together with the baby and their older child, which he had another child, by the way, They had an older child, which again, he has been absent.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah.

J. Aundrea: Okay.

Bruce Anthony: Yes! Like, [00:29:00] she said they had not talked throughout the entire pregnancy. Hadn't talked. But they, they had a kid. These are people that are married. They're technically still married. But go ahead.

J. Aundrea: And she was just like, he held me and it just felt so right. And I felt at peace, girl, he got a whole girlfriend.

Bruce Anthony: Mm hmm. Oh.

J. Aundrea: pregnancy. He had, you sent him the sonogram and homeboy didn't even reply.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, that's cold.

J. Aundrea: He ain't say nothing to you while you were giving birth. No words of encouragement, nothing.

If anything, she said he was out in the hall asleep.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, that's tough.

J. Aundrea: That's tough.

Bruce Anthony: tough. That's tough.

J. Aundrea: And you just inviting him back with open arms. Meanwhile, he's still got a whole woman on the [00:30:00] outside. Okay. So he's given her all the mumbo jumbo we always get. I really want my family back. You know, this, this other

Bruce Anthony: Well, it's not, that don't gotta be mumbo jumbo now.

J. Aundrea: It is mumbo jumbo because I want my family back. It's not, I apologize for destroying our family.

Bruce Anthony: Well, he didn't, he didn't destroy the family. He told her ahead of time, Hey, I'm not feeling this. I'm going, I want a divorce. And then they temporarily got back together for a hot second. She got pregnant before he knew that she was pregnant. He was like, I can't do this. And then he left. And then she told him that he was pregnant, that she was pregnant.

That's, that's what happened. He didn't abandon her when she was pregnant. I mean, he, he didn't come around after he found out that she was pregnant. 

J. Aundrea: To, Abandon somebody while they're pregnant, which is exactly what happened.

Bruce Anthony: Oh, okay. All right.

J. Aundrea: ask to go to any of [00:31:00] the, you know, appointments. He

Bruce Anthony: No, he didn't.

J. Aundrea: was doing. How was the baby doing? This man did not care. And what she's hearing from her mother in law is that he's having a good time. they, him and him and the girlfriends seem happy.

Bruce Anthony: Well, yes, but, but she says the woman that doing the video is saying that he was in a very toxic relationship. So she is getting information.

J. Aundrea: her that. She has to

Bruce Anthony: Uh, yeah, yeah.

J. Aundrea: My point with this whole thing anyway, she ends up taking him back. I didn't see, hear anything about him apologizing to her. She never really, they

Bruce Anthony: Mind you,

J. Aundrea: forward.

Bruce Anthony: they moved forward and this was a story that happened six years ago. So it was been six years of them being strong after all of this.

J. Aundrea: now it's been six years of them. together.

Bruce Anthony: Well, she said strong.

J. Aundrea: strong. Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: said it that strong. Well,

J. Aundrea: I would love to hear what [00:32:00] he says, because he's been notably absent while she's been getting eaten up all over TikTok and the reason she's been getting eaten up and I have, I now, am I saying that you can't come back from infidelity? Absolutely not. You can, I have seen it. I've seen people come back from it. You can come back from infidelity. It's just a, basically what you. It's gonna be on a case by case basis, right? It's per couple, right? Like, what happened? Are y'all willing to work it out? Uh, is there contrition on the person that was at fault here?

Like, Where are they taking accountability for it and all this stuff. And can y'all move forward with therapy and things like that? Absolutely. I'm not saying that you can't, I'm saying if we talking about case by case basis, her case ain't had no business casing. You understand?

Bruce Anthony: what?

What?

J. Aundrea: And what, and the problem isn't a reason why people are getting are [00:33:00] eating her up is because she had an incredibly toxic and abusive situation.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. I don't necessarily agree with that. He was upfront.

J. Aundrea: is not always hitting people.

Bruce Anthony: No, I mean, I know that, but he was very upfront.

J. Aundrea: That

Bruce Anthony: When he left,

J. Aundrea: If I, if I walk up to somebody and I'm up front and I say, you a bitch. And

Bruce Anthony: come on, this is the main show. This is the main show.

J. Aundrea: not a cuss word

Bruce Anthony: Oh God. Hold on. But that's not what he did


Relationship Dynamics and Divorce
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Bruce Anthony: . What he did said what, what he, what he did was, Hey, I tried to work this out. I can't do it. I want a divorce. And he left. And then he started dating a woman after he said he left. He wasn't playing both sides of the fence.

He technically did not cheat. His, his fault was that he was not there during the pregnancy. And if she wants to take him back and he went out there and he stepped out and he was like, you know what, home is a lot better than these streets.

J. Aundrea: or [00:34:00] like as some people surmise The girlfriend was like you got too much going on and I don't want to do this no more So he went back to his wife,

Bruce Anthony: I mean, that's, that's real. That's people being real cynical. It could have been him absolutely making the decision.

J. Aundrea: where did that come from

Bruce Anthony: It came from the fact that she just gave birth to their second child and that's an eye opening experience.

J. Aundrea: after leaving her twice? He loves her again

Bruce Anthony: Well, you, but a part that you left out is the day of the child's birth. They're laying in the bed together.

He gets a text message. She looks at the phone and realizes it's a girlfriend. He leaves,

J. Aundrea: Yes

Bruce Anthony: he comes back with flowers that day,

J. Aundrea: yeah from the grocery store Yeah, because that was when he called his mama's and I really wanted to be There, but does he want to be there with her or does he want to be there with his child

Bruce Anthony: maybe the whole package. Maybe I don't know. Guess what? We don't get to hear from him.

J. Aundrea: and the thing of it? Is flowers not even a [00:35:00] bare minimum of what she deserved in that situation.

Bruce Anthony: What does she deserve in that situation?

J. Aundrea: Oh, I don't know some God Compassion Empathy, I mean even if you don't want to be with her no more. She's still pregnant with your child How can you just leave her and your other child that still exists?

Bruce Anthony: Okay, I'm not defending the fact that he disappeared throughout that entire pregnancy and we don't know what was going He may have been coming by throwing cash. She said that they didn't talk or text I find that hard to believe that he wasn't taking care of his child During that whole the other child during that whole process You

J. Aundrea: now you, now that you're being an optimist, if I'm being cynical, you're being an optimist. The reason why people are eating her up though, is really not, um, [00:36:00] about him. It's about her and talking. To women as if the way that she responded to all of this her better than everybody else

Bruce Anthony: Yes.

J. Aundrea: y'all don't know some of y'all don't know god And that's why you can that's why you're single and you're hating it You're bitter and you're hating on married people.

No, it really sounded like your situation was not great somebody who didn't want to be with you and you Allowed all of this to happen. But the problem is You're saying it is because God wanted this to happen to you.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. So,

J. Aundrea: That's the problem. Sometimes God is not in y'all relationships. Y'all think just because y'all still together in these toxic ass relationships is because this is the man that God had for me and plan.

Is it maybe the Lord is giving you signals that this isn't the person for you. [00:37:00] Maybe everything that has happened up until this point, all the blatant things that were said and done directly to your face. Directly to your face was the Lord telling you, this ain't the one for you.

Bruce Anthony: uh, okay. You sent this to me cause you wanted to, you wanted to hear what I thought.

J. Aundrea: What are your thoughts?


The Role of Sacrifice in Relationships
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J. Aundrea: Because, because I'm tired of this kind of toxic Christianity towards women, where women have to accept all a self sacrifice and that, that is what gives them their value and their virtue is the amount of sacrifice, sacrifice that they make in these relationships and other amount of crap that they can take. Or that they're willing to take and turn the other cheek for some reason. If I'm turning the other cheek, it's to spit before I hit you in the face.

Bruce Anthony: Okay. All right. Okay.[00:38:00] 

J. Aundrea: That's what I'm saying.

Bruce Anthony: okay. I hear what you're saying. All right. So in, in one sense, she's right to make a relationship work. Take sacrifice from both people. People think that relationships are easy. Relationships are not easy just because two people,

J. Aundrea: who thinks

Bruce Anthony: the greatest, the greatest thing that somebody ever told me was just because two people love each other doesn't mean they're meant to be together.

So there's a lot of people out there I've loved. Um, maybe I've only really loved two women, but, but I said that I've loved maybe four or five.

J. Aundrea: Nice.

Yeah.

Mhmm. 

Bruce Anthony: to be together just because we loved each other. Yes, you're right. The idea that she is out here giving coaching, right. Or advice on relationships when her situation wasn't ideal.

I'm not gonna say not the best. I'm going to say not ideal. Not [00:39:00] ideal to what. People would tend to want to be in a romantic relationship, but each romantic relationship is its own life. Right. And what people decide that they want to participate in, in their relationship is their business. It's what it's kind of like pain,

J. Aundrea: Mhmm.

Bruce Anthony: Love is pain. It's kind of like pain. Certain people could tolerate higher forms of pain than others.

J. Aundrea: Mhmm.

Bruce Anthony: it's kind of like in relationships as well. Some people are just like, Hey, look, I'm not dealing with this. These are my deal breakers. I'm out. Okay, cool. That is you setting a boundary for you.

J. Aundrea: Right.

Bruce Anthony: Other people are like, I'm willing to bend on a couple of things because I want to be in a relationship where we're working together towards something.

J. Aundrea: Mhmm.

Bruce Anthony: Some people want to be in a, what is it, a poly relationship. where they

J. Aundrea: Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: date and multiple people like I can't identify with that. But then [00:40:00] again, I've had a conversation with one of my friends before. Why is it that I can't identify with a poly relationship? Why would that be something that I wouldn't want to be in?

In a poly relationship? I mean, if I could have two women or three women, great, but not great. Cause that's a lot of work. And.

J. Aundrea: It's a lot

Bruce Anthony: I don't want that. But why, why? Okay. What is the reason why I would have an issue with another man being with my significant other? Is it because of a betrayal? Sure. Is it because of a territorial thing that I feel like that's my possession?

I have to, Examine that and find out

J. Aundrea: Some

Bruce Anthony: what, what,

J. Aundrea: monogamous and that's also fine.

Bruce Anthony: well, and I can't say that I was always monogamous. I am now, but I haven't been in my life. So each relationship is different. And this was her relationship. I'm not going to knock her for everything that she went through to get to where she wanted to get to.

J. Aundrea: Right.[00:41:00] 

Bruce Anthony: to her. She got what she wanted in the end.

J. Aundrea: But she

Bruce Anthony: You're absolutely.

J. Aundrea: coaching nobody else.

Bruce Anthony: Well, she, that's not necessarily true. There are other women out there just like her. So, she does have a place in this world as far as coaching is concerned. Where she doesn't have a place, well, that's your opinion. But everybody is entitled to their own way of life.

Right. Their own way of wanting to live


Toxic Christianity and Women's Roles
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J. Aundrea: like these kinds of Christians patriarchy and toxicity to

Bruce Anthony: with. These are different arguments though.

J. Aundrea: as if that's God's plan for them.

Bruce Anthony: Well, these are different arguments though. Right? Like if you're saying, well, she shouldn't be a coach at all. No, no, that's not necessarily true. There are people out

J. Aundrea: there's

Bruce Anthony: are people,

J. Aundrea: There's a lane for everybody.

Bruce Anthony: But, but

J. Aundrea: the message.

Bruce Anthony: okay.

J. Aundrea: message is,

Bruce Anthony: You don't like the message, but there are other people out there that do. And who's to [00:42:00] say that you're right.

And they're wrong.

J. Aundrea: I don't think that What is there to be right and wrong about? If your relationship is hurting you, that's not something that that's not in God's plan for you.

Bruce Anthony: Well, who, well, hold on. That's what did I just say in every relationship? There's sacrifice and there is pain.

J. Aundrea: Not like that.

Bruce Anthony: Well, how long was her pain? How long was her pain?

J. Aundrea: a damn year.

Bruce Anthony: Almost a year. How long were they married before that?

J. Aundrea: Not that long.

Bruce Anthony: No, it was like five years. How long have they been married? Yeah,

J. Aundrea: think it was five years.

Bruce Anthony: it's been,

J. Aundrea: that long.

Bruce Anthony: it's been, it was at least three years.

J. Aundrea: She said it was early in her marriage. I don't know

Bruce Anthony: Okay. Well they've been married for six years after this event.

J. Aundrea: yes.

Bruce Anthony: So in totality, let's just say that they went through that year. They've been married six years after. So that's seven years. Let's say they were married a year before. So they've been married for eight [00:43:00] years. Okay. So she suffered for a year, not even fully.

It was during her pregnancy, which is 10 months, right? So she suffered for 10 months to get to the point where. Eight years into it, it was 10 months of real pain. So when you look at it from that standpoint, when you look at it from a time based standpoint and she's happy now, who cares about that? That 10 months sacrifice that she had to go through.

That's what I'm talking about. When, when you,

J. Aundrea: He only beat my ass for two weeks

Bruce Anthony: well,

J. Aundrea: So after that, he ain't beat my ass no more. So that's the, what, that makes no sense to me. I don't care how

Bruce Anthony: to you, to you, but like I said, it's like a pain threshold. Each person has their different levels of pain.

J. Aundrea: that's her own personal story.

Bruce Anthony: Right. And so I said, you're talking different things here. You're talking, well,

J. Aundrea: thing. Her story, her being a coach, whatever, that's fine.


Debating Relationship Coaching
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J. Aundrea: My ultimate issue is [00:44:00] with toxic Christianity, pushing this narrative on to women specifically. Where there is zero accountability for the man and all of the onus of taking on the emotional labor and the healing and the forgiveness is on the woman. And the man has to do nothing but tell you he wants to come home.

Bruce Anthony: we're also hearing one side of the story and you know how I am. There's her side, there's his side, and then there's the truth.

J. Aundrea: Right.

Bruce Anthony: So we don't know what she's like as a woman. And it sounds like from this story, she's a little off kilter.

J. Aundrea: Yes. Because she's talking about she's in bed. They're in bed. Together. And they're just, you know, holding each other or whatever. And she's telling him about all the prophetic dreams and everything. And God even used her son and all of this. And he's just like, she's like, I can tell he's just like, okay, whatever.

Yeah. Because he is like, okay, whatever. Cause he know he got to deal with this now for the rest of [00:45:00] his life because he's made a decision to come back.

Bruce Anthony: right. But I will say

J. Aundrea: have

Bruce Anthony: I have been in situations where I have dated women and I've met them under circumstances where I was like, Oh, this must be. This must be a sign from God because I wasn't even supposed to be here at that moment to meet her at this particular time. There's been several times where I've convinced myself and I don't know that they weren't right.

They may not been that lifelong relationship. Almost right. And almost all of my relationships, there has been a lesson that I have learned. So maybe it was, you know, maybe she did get that sign and, and, and, you know, he didn't get it. Look, you and I both look at this situation and we both see this woman.

As off kilter, I'm going to say she's off kilter, a little off kilter that we can't identify with it, but there's a large segment of the population that can, and who are [00:46:00] we to tell anybody else what they should believe is right or wrong. You're saying you're coming from a, if you're, well, some women, some people want to be oppressed.

Some people want to be oppressed. That's what you not.

J. Aundrea: everybody.

Bruce Anthony: everybody wants to be liberated. Like I said before, in previous episodes, ignorance is bliss. There's a reason why the ignorant people are extremely happy because they don't know nothing. It's easier not to know anything and just live your life with blinders on.

Some people want to be oppressed.

J. Aundrea: No, well, that's

Bruce Anthony: I mean, we're, we're using this word very

J. Aundrea: No, it's

Bruce Anthony: It's probably, well, okay. Well, some people want to write. Some people want to be under that can cool deck and coon of oppression because it's comfortable.

J. Aundrea: but it's the people who don't, right? There's the, it's the women who are in a situation like that who come across her video, who should be [00:47:00] leaving, who should not be trying to hold on to somebody who clearly doesn't want to be with them or doesn't like them.

Bruce Anthony: Well, who, who said he didn't want to be with them because she's been with her for six years after the fact.

J. Aundrea: Right. Cause the girlfriend broke up with him.

Bruce Anthony: I mean, he, he probably can get another girlfriend just cause if he got one, he can get another one. Okay.

J. Aundrea: he doesn't?

Bruce Anthony: Maybe I don't know. He, well, he was upfront,

J. Aundrea: specific

Bruce Anthony: right? He was upfront and honest. That's the reason why I'm going to assume that he wouldn't have an aside piece because he was upfront and honest about the woman that he was dating when they were separated

J. Aundrea: I'm talking about the woman out there that comes across her video that thinks that she should hold on to a situation that is not serving her. And there's a lot of times in this church that they want you to hold on to situations that are not serving you, where he is beating your ass or he is cheating on

Bruce Anthony: when he, when he wasn't, he wasn't being physically violent

J. Aundrea: but there I'm telling [00:48:00] you, I've heard story after story of them going to their church home and

Bruce Anthony: and I'm gonna really need you to stop cussing. I'm gonna really need you to stop cussing. This is

J. Aundrea: didn't

Bruce Anthony: not, yeah, you did. You said beating the ass that's cussing.

J. Aundrea: Ass is not a cuss word.

Bruce Anthony: It is. Stop saying it

J. Aundrea: It is

Bruce Anthony: Really,

J. Aundrea: donkey.

Bruce Anthony: that's not the context in which you are using it. Come on now. Stop

J. Aundrea: I'll find, I'll call him a donkey.

Bruce Anthony: stop cussing. That's all I wanna say is stop cussing.

J. Aundrea: I, I don't think I'm cussing. If, if

Bruce Anthony: That's a cuss word.

J. Aundrea: then let me know, but I don't think I'm cussing. But anyway. It's, and they go to their church home for advice what to do and they're told to stay. They're told to stick it out. They're told to stand by their vows when he's not standing by his or vice versa. Okay. Cause they're, this, this is not just something that happens to women, but it's like, when are we going to say that this institution of marriage, [00:49:00] right? Is it enough to keep people in situations that they don't, that are not serving them And that are not benefiting them. When are we going to let go of this obsession with marriage? When are we going to let go of thinking that pain is in God's plan? Because

Bruce Anthony: are we gonna let go of? Just because you're in pain, you give up.

J. Aundrea: it Bruce, I'm saying again, it's a case by case basis, but there

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. But, but you're, you're speaking in gen, you're speaking in generalities here. You what you're, you're speaking in generalities and, but you're not specifically saying.

J. Aundrea: and if you're in a situation that does not serve you,

Bruce Anthony: But how does anybody know what serves them or doesn't serve them unless they go through the process of figuring that out?

J. Aundrea: Yeah, I mean, that's always going to be a process if you're trying to figure

Bruce Anthony: [00:50:00] Right. So the fact of the matter is nobody can really tell you what you're supposed to be doing with your life. People can give advice or coaching or counseling, but even people who are licensed therapists give wrong advice. Sometimes.

J. Aundrea: I don't think a therapist is supposed to give you advice.

Bruce Anthony: Uh, they're supposed to help you through the process.

J. Aundrea: Right.

Bruce Anthony: Well, yeah, sometimes they give you advice. Sometimes, well, I don't know. Well,

J. Aundrea: within Christianity that specifically affects women. There's a toxicity in Christianity that specifically affects black people, Oh, this life be over soon. Heaven lasts always. Like that kind of thing where it's like, oh, we'll get, it's okay if we suffer here, we'll get our reward in heaven.

That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Everybody,

Bruce Anthony: not be ridiculous. I believe it.

J. Aundrea: everybody

Bruce Anthony: your eyes on the prize. Oh, Lord.

J. Aundrea: to, to life. Everybody has the right to happiness. Everybody has the right to joy

Bruce Anthony: Yes. You are coming really from sister [00:51:00] soldier perspectives and I get it. I respect it, but I'm just saying,

J. Aundrea: and people like that are toxic.

Bruce Anthony: well, I could honestly say your mentality on saying the people, Hey, the way you're living is toxic, is toxic, right? Like you calling out other people,

J. Aundrea: toxicity is not, does not make me toxic. Calling out racism doesn't make me a racist.

Bruce Anthony: calling out, calling out people who want to call him calling out people who want to live a certain way of life that they're happy with and saying that they're wrong for doing it is toxic.

J. Aundrea: do in your personal life is fine. What I'm telling you is you don't have a right to be telling other people when your stuff ain't straight

Bruce Anthony: Which she felt like her stuff was straight. She was talking from an experience of, Hey, look, I sold you through,

J. Aundrea: tell people that this is God's plan for them because you don't know what that plan is. I don't know what that plan is,

Bruce Anthony: right? You can say God's plan for me as I see it. This is what [00:52:00] happened. His plan for you might be different, but, but have faith. I guess you could say that.

I guess you could say that I'm saying, look, they had six years later, they still together. So

J. Aundrea: Yeah. There's a whole lot of people that are still together.

Bruce Anthony: sec, this, this part. Was not supposed to go this long. And now I don't even,

J. Aundrea: to talk about it

Bruce Anthony: I did ask you to talk about it. You clearly,

J. Aundrea: it out and put it someplace else

Bruce Anthony: no, I'm not. Don't get mad at me. Don't get mad at you. What? And you, you said that specifically and you said, I want to see what your thought process is.

J. Aundrea: I also say, I also say it didn't need to be for the show. I just wanted to see what you thought about it. And

Bruce Anthony: Oh,

J. Aundrea: you're going to be devil's advocate, which is

Bruce Anthony: I'm not.

J. Aundrea: do and take a position that is not even a position that you believe in just so you could be contrary.

Bruce Anthony: I know this is what I, this is what I truly, truly believe.

J. Aundrea: That's

Bruce Anthony: I don't tell the, I don't have the right to tell anybody how to live their life. [00:53:00] And I won't tell anybody how to live their life.

J. Aundrea: Nah.

Bruce Anthony: will only tell people I, no,

J. Aundrea: that is not serving them, you do not love that person if you don't say nothing.

Bruce Anthony: that's not, that's not true. Now, what I have done in the past, when I see people in situations that are not serving them from my perspective, I don't say, cause they're not going to listen to me anyway. I don't say, Hey, this isn't serving you. Cause that's not what they want to hear. I just point out certain stuff.

Say, Hey, did you look at this? Or, Hey, what do you think about this?

J. Aundrea: something.

Bruce Anthony: I say something, but I don't say, Hey, this isn't serving you. Cause I don't think that's effective. I know for a fact

J. Aundrea: I mean, a lot of people don't even understand what that means.

Bruce Anthony: right.

J. Aundrea: what that kind of language means.

Bruce Anthony: And, and, and what I may think is not serving them might not be right.

J. Aundrea: I [00:54:00] feel like there's always a line.

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, there are clear cut things. We're like, Hey man, you bought the dive. You keep going in this situation.

J. Aundrea: Right.

Bruce Anthony: yes, then you say something and you try to help that person. But up until that point, which is an extreme situation up until that point, it's not up to me to tell.

J. Aundrea: marriage is, that's

Bruce Anthony: Yeah. Yeah. It's not up to me to tell people how to live their lives.

Cause I want nobody telling me how to live my life. The only thing I ever tell people is, If you're so entrenched on one side, take a step back, deep breath, and then attempt to see the other side. So you say I'm a devil's advocate and yes, I am, but it's just my attempt to try and make, to try to understand the other perspective

J. Aundrea: Yeah,

Bruce Anthony: trying to understand

J. Aundrea: an advocate.

Bruce Anthony: who said it's the devil.

Why is it with the devil?

J. Aundrea: it's devil's advocate.[00:55:00] 

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, I know that, but who said that that's being the devil's advocate? Who says it's the devil's work that's behind it? If you don't want to say,

J. Aundrea: advocate

Bruce Anthony: Okay, hold on. You just threw that, you just threw that out there.

J. Aundrea: you just said, yes, I am a devil's advocate. And I was like, well,

Bruce Anthony: Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. But I was, that's not what I meant and you know it. Jackass. You know what I am done with?

J. Aundrea: ladies and gentlemen, Bruce is done. He's officially done with this conversation.

Bruce Anthony: God, yes! That, that is

J. Aundrea: same, it's the same issue I have. It's the last thing I'll say about it. It's the same issue I have with prosperity gospel.

Bruce Anthony: Okay.

J. Aundrea: is, you know, if you pray, the Lord will get you there.

He'll, he'll work it out. Jesus will work it out. How you going to pay your rent? All this stuff. the implication is that's the song. How you going to pay your rent when all your money spent, you know, like that Jesus is working out. Right? problem with that is [00:56:00] the implication is. If my stuff ain't working out, I'm not praying hard enough,

Bruce Anthony: Yeah, well maybe you're not. Well, maybe you don't.

J. Aundrea: no, it's because there are people who have things who don't pray. there are people who don't have things who pray all the time. So that's none, none of that is an indicator of our closeness with God, or

Bruce Anthony: they're not praying right.

J. Aundrea: the devil don't need an advocate. He don't.

Bruce Anthony: Look, look. This is the end of the show.


Final Thoughts and Reflections
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Bruce Anthony: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you. Thank you for 150 episodes because I'm through with my sister right now, . I'm through with her. Normally I would

J. Aundrea: still got more work to do, so go ahead.

Bruce Anthony: typically, I would kick it back to her and say, Hey, do what do you wanna say to people out there? She didn't said enough.

Y'all done heard a lot from, from her perspective.

J. Aundrea: Thanks!

Bruce Anthony: You ain't said no two damn things. You said a whole lot of things,[00:57:00] 

J. Aundrea: I

Bruce Anthony: and now you got me cussing on the episode, ladies and gentlemen.

J. Aundrea: didn't cuss! That's

Bruce Anthony: I said, damn.

J. Aundrea: cuss word!

Bruce Anthony: Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, we not going about to argue about what's a cuss word and what's not a cuss word. But once again,

J. Aundrea: debate. I

Bruce Anthony: no,

J. Aundrea: about

Bruce Anthony: I'm done with this debate.

Look, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. Thank you for supporting us 150 and we're going to do 150 more. My sister did not think that we was actually going to make it to this point because she didn't know how determined and driven her brother was. She thought it was like, we're going to do a couple of episodes.

And then Bruce would be disinterested in it and we won't have to do it no more. And now she's stuck for the rest of her life doing, doing these shows.

J. Aundrea: Yeah.

Bruce Anthony: eventually, eventually we're going to make some real money off this show, but that's not the reason why we do it. The reason why we do it was to give people an unsolicited perspective and a new way of thinking on life. That's what it is. The hubris [00:58:00] of,

J. Aundrea: with that.

Bruce Anthony: yeah, the hubris

J. Aundrea: and a

Bruce Anthony: is a lot

J. Aundrea: that.

Bruce Anthony: of hubris and a lot of ego in there.

J. Aundrea: think that we're the people to give you that perspective.

Bruce Anthony: Hey, look, everybody, there's a lot of people out there that think that, but Hey, look, people that want to try to people that want to try to change things have to have a little bit of an ego. We are not narcissistic in any way, but do we have a little bit of ego and to think that, Hey, maybe there's one or two people out there that I'll listen to something that we said that it might think a little bit differently or open their minds to something else or a different possibility of way of life.

Hey,

J. Aundrea: And we're

Bruce Anthony: we won. That's what we want, right? Is to just inspire people to think about things and in a new way. So, Thank you. Thank you for rocking with us. And we're going to keep going. Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching and until next time as always holla 

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