The Manosphere: How Media Influences Young Men's Views on Gender

00:02.54
Bruce Anthony
Welcome First of all welcome this is unsolicited perspectives I'm Bruce Anthony your host here to lead the conversation in important events and topics that are shape in today's society join the conversation by following us wherever you get your audio podcast subscribe to our Youtube channel to watch our video podcast rate. Review like comment share share with your friends share with your family hell even share with your enemies on today's episode is the sibling happy hour I'm here with my sister Jay Andrea we're gonna be talking about a funny or not funny and interesting story in the news we're going be talking about manosphere. And also we'll be praising some men some of the time but that's enough for the intro. Let's get to the show.

00:51.22
Bruce Anthony
What obsess I can't call it I can't call it. You got something new to introduce to the audience today.

00:52.47
J. Aundrea
What a brother.

01:00.20
J. Aundrea
I do there's a new addition to my little family of me and and my dog tenderoni his name is roscoe and he is an eight week old puppy. He's a doberman bull masive mix. I did not know I was getting him but but when the call came in hey can you take this dog I'm a about to go pick him up I just ran to pet smart and bought all the puppy stuff I could think of and. He has been a great addition to the family Rony just loves him they play together. They're so cute and he's just a little dumpling and I'm just so happy. So.

01:47.88
Bruce Anthony
He is absolutely adorable and I was really hoping that Roney would take to him because we know Roney don't like dogs Roni did not like crypto at all Roney didn't like Tokyo when you rescued that dog for for that night but roanney has just taken to. Ah.

01:53.10
J. Aundrea
No no.

02:02.30
J. Aundrea
Um, alone. Yes.

02:05.55
Bruce Anthony
Little little roscoe and that's not his that you tell the people What his full name is.

02:07.96
J. Aundrea
His name is Roscoe Gerald Levert everybody Wass asked but I mean Tin Deroni's name is tinroni shallamar.

02:15.83
Bruce Anthony
Ah I.

02:24.89
Bruce Anthony
Is 2

02:26.84
J. Aundrea
But but I saw many he ah he he just looked like a roscoe and ah I never thought I would name a dog roscoe I mean judging by my my first dog I mean her name is tinroni I I'm not a you know typical dog name type person but he looked like a roscoe.

02:37.39
Bruce Anthony
E.

02:45.14
J. Aundrea
Also I've been watching reacher on prime and the domain cop lady her name is roscoe so I think it was just in my head. Her first name is roscoe. Yeah, that was kind of like a like the joke she introduced herself. He's like your name is roscoe.

02:46.41
Bruce Anthony
Great show.

02:54.47
Bruce Anthony
It is it rascoe.

03:03.28
Bruce Anthony
Oh you're watching the first season I don't even remember her yeah I don't even remember her name but oh oh, okay, yes yes yes yeah okay the first season the detective roscoe. Okay yes I got it I got it good show and you called me you called me I don't know if you remember.

03:04.80
J. Aundrea
And she's like yes, Yes, yeah, yes, yes, good show. I do.

03:21.82
Bruce Anthony
Ah, would you send me a memo. Okay, you sent me a memo and you was like are you as big as reacher and I said first season I'm as big as reacher second season I am not as big as reacher he gets he gets he gets extreme.

03:31.29
J. Aundrea
Oh second season. He's big. How is that possible.

03:39.17
Bruce Anthony
He gets a lot bigger. He looks like um, a version of the rock in the second season.

03:47.30
J. Aundrea
How is that how can he because first season reacher he was gigantic. So yeah, um.

03:50.53
Bruce Anthony
Yes, no, he's like my he's like my build. He's my height he might be actually he might be six five instead of six four big guy. Big guy. He was aquaman on Smallville. Um, so I've known the followed his career for a long time so he's a little slightly younger than me I think he's around.

04:03.57
J. Aundrea
And.

04:10.80
Bruce Anthony
42 43 so just slightly younger than I am and he said he had to get himself in shape. He had to get to two hundred and thirty five pounds um before this started the first season and so he killed himself. He had eight months to do it and I think that was like he had to put on like £25 or something like that of muscle.

04:10.16
J. Aundrea
M.

04:20.11
J. Aundrea
M.

04:28.17
J. Aundrea
Yeisht. Yeah.

04:29.35
Bruce Anthony
And so he said he killed himself in the gym and then after the season was over. You know he did his regular physical. They did blood work and they he was like I didn't have any test teststerone testosterone left like it was all gone and I was like yeah bro, you're 40 like it like it starts. It starts leaking from us at the age of 30 is.

04:41.30
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, that leaking.

04:48.22
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, no, it starts leaking it starts leaking from us day to 30 by the time you get to 40 It's like yo do I got anymore and he didn't have anymore left so to prepare for the second season he started doing testosterone shots and ah i' I'm not knocking them.

04:50.69
J. Aundrea
Um, ah.

04:57.39
J. Aundrea
Um, oh.

05:04.64
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

05:06.17
Bruce Anthony
You know I mean sometimes people gotta do testosterone shots would I do testosterone shots no because I don't want to take no shots. But if there were some testosterone pills I would oh I Absolutely like.

05:15.23
J. Aundrea
Um, if you had a testosterone deficiency. Yeah um, yeah.

05:22.68
Bruce Anthony
I'm 44 I could feel it when I go to the gym I'm tired all the time all the symptoms that he said I need to go get some blood work done because all the symptoms that he said I got just being tired all the time the thhargic try really trying to kick yourself in the gear in the gym. Ah his heart.

05:36.20
J. Aundrea
And it's gotta be hard to carry that much muscle around like that much weight like is gotta be just getting up from a chair like it can't be easy to do like yes.

05:41.69
Bruce Anthony
What yeah you hear me when I get up a chance sit down you always sung vo making sounds. It ain't easy to move this body.

05:55.36
J. Aundrea
Hey cheese. Yeah.

05:58.55
Bruce Anthony
Some of my clients now some my clients now I just I just be lazy and they'll have weights in their hands and they're like um here you want to take this because normally back in the day I would grab everything and move all this stuff around I was like you could put it right over there just we do it.

06:07.53
J. Aundrea
Yes. Yeah, desk call call that a rep that's a do go put him back.

06:13.44
Bruce Anthony
Put it right over there. Don't need my help for that. Go ahead, put that right over there go on put it back? Well okay, this is a weird seggue and you you kind of didn't want to talk about this when I was like this is interesting.

06:28.20
J. Aundrea
What? Well first we have to say something very important today's February first happy black happy black history month. Yes.

06:32.47
Bruce Anthony
Okay, say say what's important that's right happy black history month I thought we normally say that at the end that's what you did last year

06:45.98
J. Aundrea
Bruce I don't know what I did last week you guys to I'm ble to black and I'm back y'all it? Yes, yes, yes.

06:48.86
Bruce Anthony
And I'm black y'all and I'm black y'all and I'm obligty black and I'm black y'all and if y'all don't get that as a c before reference if you follow me on Instagram you saw that I posted that on my stories. Um, okay ja that was a weird. I'm trying to get to this story and you say happy black history month at it but but well go talk about anyway. Um I was perus in the the it's not funny. It's not funny. It.

07:05.27
J. Aundrea
Yeah I want to make it even more difficult for us to talk about this.

07:18.54
J. Aundrea
Um, it's not funny.

07:22.63
Bruce Anthony
But I'd find it interesting so you know as always I'm on the internet reading articles all day long every day all day long. That's what I do and this headline comes across and it says basically I'm paraphrasing man with head on Youtube video and I was like huh.

07:27.51
J. Aundrea
M.

07:41.22
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

07:42.12
Bruce Anthony
What is this so I click on it and basically here's a story Justin Moe is a man from livingtown Pennsylvania he's been accused of a serious crime y'all serious according to reports. He allegedly beheaded his father.

07:50.56
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

07:56.90
Bruce Anthony
Ah, and then displayed the several head the severed head in a Youtube video he was taken into custody on suspicion of first degree murder I don't know how there is any suspicion when he got his dad's head on the Youtube video. Yes, he showed it on a Youtube video it was. It's since been taken down from Youtube but ah.

08:07.64
J. Aundrea
Yeah. Yes, and.

08:15.39
Bruce Anthony
Suspicion for first degree murder and denied bail I would hope he'd be denial bail. He was found on a national guard base after allegedly committing the crime. The incident has caused a significant disturbance in the local community I mean I guess it would ah Justin has expressed a variety of beliefs on the social media platforms.

08:18.19
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

08:27.18
J. Aundrea
On.

08:34.91
Bruce Anthony
He's described herself as a musician I mean that's pretty good. A producer and author of 7 books that's available on Amazon ah, a commander of America's national network of militias maybe.

08:44.18
J. Aundrea
Ah, those are gonna get taken from down from Amazon so quickly if they haven't been already.

08:51.49
Bruce Anthony
Ah, he's the he's the the commander of America's national network of militias these are all his all other things that he said he was on his social media. He's the acting president of the United States and even suggested he might be the messiah the video posted on Youtube.

08:54.54
J. Aundrea
And.

09:04.87
J. Aundrea
M.

09:08.92
Bruce Anthony
Ah, he expressed anti-government sentiments and called for the execution of all federal workers claiming that they betrayed America Citizens and he rallied against what it described as far left woke proimrant pro black lives matter and pro lg b t cube influencers. And the federal government that he said are destroying America um, and and the reason why he killed his dad because his dad was a federal worker so as he said you got to kill all federal workers so he killed his dad and beheaded him. Um.

09:36.68
J. Aundrea
M.

09:43.80
J. Aundrea
No.

09:46.13
Bruce Anthony
Yeah I So he's in Jail right now. So I thought that was an interested story and and and and I know you didn't want to talk about But what's interesting to me is we're in an election year and you have these people on the far right? They are saying these inflammatory things to.

09:54.28
J. Aundrea
M.

10:05.97
Bruce Anthony
Cause fear and get people riled up and you're going to see things like this this is an extreme right? But how how extreme is it really because three years ago there was a storming at the capitol on January six where they were literally had nooses calling to hang Mike Pence

10:09.98
J. Aundrea
Yes.

10:22.72
J. Aundrea
And.

10:24.56
Bruce Anthony
Now anybody that believes that if they didn't get their hands on Mike Pence or aoc or or um, any any politicians that they didn't like if you didn't think that they would hurt those politicians you you're at you're delusional. So.

10:32.26
J. Aundrea
Right.

10:40.98
Bruce Anthony
I find it fascinating and a whole theme is today's episode is how media influences stupid people that stupid people. Yeah okay, that's that's what the whole? Yeah vulnerable. Well vulnerable people are stupid people now if that's not true.

10:44.78
J. Aundrea
In the. How how media influences vulnerable people. No no, no, where.

10:59.50
Bruce Anthony
that's that's not true, I'm taking that back that's that's that's not true but definitely vulnerable people and there's a lot of people out there. You know I love watching I love watching these interviewers that interview people at at Trump rallies it just hear their beliefs and. It's not all I said stupid people. It's not all stupid people. There are some smart people that keep getting fed information if you keep getting fed the same information over and over and over again even when you think it's a lie in the beginning when it's jammed down your throat. You're going to start to believe oh this is actually the truth. So.

11:29.10
J. Aundrea
Um.

11:36.58
J. Aundrea
Yeah, um I think we are woefully under funding mental health services in our country. Um I think that.

11:38.10
Bruce Anthony
I Don't know what you think.

11:48.50
Bruce Anthony
On nothing.

11:52.60
J. Aundrea
Um, this guy I don't know if he was influenced by the internet I mean there it really doesn't seem to be anything pointing to that except for the fact that he has a lot of conspiracy theories and that's really a lot of what you'll hear in that echo chamber of. Like 4 Chan and truth social and wherever wherever the hell they hang out I don't know where they hang out. yeah that's yeah um yeah I don't know where they hang out because I don't know nothing about that. But.

12:14.96
Bruce Anthony
You go true. So for true social is ah is a is a good starting point.

12:28.85
Bruce Anthony
Fox News a O O O N.

12:31.20
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah, um, but is there Definitely an issue going on in this country. Well I mean it's a old issue right? using the media. Ah, for fear mongering right to control the Public. Ah. Especially to point them in the direction of what you want them to believe but he he Yeah, he could be a victim of that. Um, you know there's so many talking heads that say really really.

13:05.94
Bruce Anthony
E.

13:06.27
J. Aundrea
Dangerous things to a very wide and broad audience and no one is is really holding these infotainment so you know infotainment people or ah.

13:16.98
Bruce Anthony
E.

13:24.78
J. Aundrea
Quote Unquote Journalists You can't really call what they do Journalism but these talk in Heads These pundits nobody is holding them truly accountable for the really dangerous rhetoric that they're spewing. And then you have people who are outside of the mainstream with their podcasts and things like that as we talk about that's on a podcast. Ah but but who but who are who you know the internet has provided a platform for everybody.

13:48.18
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, right, right? right.

14:00.95
J. Aundrea
To voice their opinions. Even if they're dangerous. Um and you gotta just start thinking about when are we going to rein this in or are we just going to continue to allow mean I I I get people's position on free speech and.

14:03.82
Bruce Anthony
A.

14:19.73
J. Aundrea
And things like that I think the internet is a great forum for people to exchange ideas but it can also be very dangerous and it can give rise to people like um was his name Justin Justin Justin Moan

14:32.72
Bruce Anthony
Yeah Justin ah, just just Justin Moan or moan and you know, whatever First of all, his first of all, he should have had a better last name in life now. Just.

14:37.38
J. Aundrea
Yeah, I'm yeah Mon not'm not sure worse the well he got his last name from his dad God rest them federal? No, he was an engineer.

14:50.93
Bruce Anthony
God Restes so a federal worker I think he was a mailman.

14:56.81
J. Aundrea
Um, so not his father didn't do anything like directly polite. He wasn't a legislator. He was an engineer with the geovironmental section of the USArmyCorps of Engineers Philadelphia district um of course.

15:08.96
Bruce Anthony
H a.

15:15.76
J. Aundrea
Army Corps of engineers I mean do great work. They are the reason our levees hold and things like that. So um, you know, just so really, really sad story but it is. It is very true that there are a lot of dangerous. Ah.

15:21.43
Bruce Anthony
Yes.

15:35.46
J. Aundrea
People out here spewing very dangerous rhetoric and they have a platform to do it.

15:40.66
Bruce Anthony
Yes, so like I said there's an overall arcing theme for today's episode and it's about media influence and how it's affecting people and you know it affected this young man and he was a young man.

15:50.10
J. Aundrea
M.

15:58.38
Bruce Anthony
Was it somebody that was you know in his forty s ah yeah, and I said he affecting the young man and I say he was dead I just said he was a young man I mean yeah I mean he is excuse me. He is a young man affected by the media.

15:58.41
J. Aundrea
I Mean he's still alive. They they there he still alive. Oh you said he was a young man So I didn't know if he was alive or not. We are.

16:17.91
Bruce Anthony
1 of the ways in which media is starting to affect the youth male youth in particular in particular is this thing called manosphere and we're going to get to that next.

16:27.72
J. Aundrea
Um.

16:37.38
Bruce Anthony
All right says before we get the man sphere we need to set the stage of what we're actually going to be talking about So a lot of this information comes from this article and and what's the name of the article again.

16:43.86
J. Aundrea
Who. It was an article in business insider. Um, and it's titled the gen z gender gap is widening and the influence of manosphere podcasters cannot be ignored. It came out today and sky a lot of interesting information in it.

17:07.27
Bruce Anthony
So everybody's going to ask what are they talking about this gender Gap among Gen Z So it's ah it's a phenomenon that's happening between obviously the genders and Gen Z men and women. Um and it and it's happening with political divergence.

17:16.38
J. Aundrea
M.

17:22.51
J. Aundrea
And.

17:24.30
Bruce Anthony
Right? Young women have become substantially more liberal over the past several years whereas views held by young men have mostly remained the same the divergences lead into a ah gender gap in political views that is wider and diverging more rapidly than what is seen in previous generations. You know some of this stuff is because of.

17:42.79
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

17:43.30
Bruce Anthony
Major things that's been happening. You have political events like the election of Donald Trump you had the metoo movement you had the supreme court decision to overturn abortion rights basically overturning roe v wade um all of these things have had a really strong impact on women and women are just like yo.

17:51.57
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

18:02.45
Bruce Anthony
Hell with all of this y'all are y'all are belitting on us putting us down after all the work. The feminists had done in the sixty s seventy s eighty s and 90 s we're not going back to that now because women are standing up for themselves and saying that we're not going to take it right.

18:12.30
J. Aundrea
No, right.

18:21.44
J. Aundrea
Um, right.

18:23.56
Bruce Anthony
There's been a backlash but from young men who um, said you know the metoo movement has gone a little bit too too far. Um basically women they're scared because women are gaining more and more control gaining more and more of a voice and they're also really scared of.

18:24.56
J. Aundrea
M.

18:41.54
Bruce Anthony
Changing of the gender norms right? What isn't discussed in this article but should be discussed is de fact that women don't need men no more financially by and large because women are out here making getting their money. So.

18:56.70
J. Aundrea
Ah.

18:56.78
Bruce Anthony
What are men bringing to the table as far as dating is concerned. It can't be just your finances though that is the case still some in some situations but you guys got to bring more to the to the table than money and dick like because because also women now have toys that's better.

19:03.28
J. Aundrea
Right.

19:09.33
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

19:16.29
Bruce Anthony
Then what you got So if you ain't got you know if they don't need your money and they don't need that instrument. You need to bring something else to the tabor. This is a shock because these young men are saying well ah generations before them didn't have to deal with this. Well guess what every generation evolves you need to evolve and adapt.

19:28.37
J. Aundrea
And yeah.

19:36.60
Bruce Anthony
And they're not Gen Z Not every male we're talking generalities here. Gen Z Males are pushing back against feminism and embracing more of toxic masculinity. So you said you had notes before we actually go to the man sphere of how these things are are.

19:42.28
J. Aundrea
Ah.

19:47.20
J. Aundrea
M.

19:55.58
Bruce Anthony
Cultivating within these young men but let's break down some of your thoughts on the article.

19:58.58
J. Aundrea
Yeah, so I mean first of all gen z men are for lack of a better word. They're struggling. They're struggling in society today is and it and it is not all their fault right? their. They're fallen behind in education educational engagement and outcomes. Um, they the rates of young male economic inactivity has risen considerably over the past twenty years

20:17.12
Bruce Anthony
Okay.

20:31.71
Bruce Anthony
So that's basically dudes Ai n't getting no money name name got no money ain't get no money. Well yes.

20:35.77
J. Aundrea
Then got no money. Ah right, Sexual activity has dropped. There is a loneliness crisis. Ah suicide rates have risen so they're they're coming of age in a time of.

20:55.38
Bruce Anthony
E e.

20:55.46
J. Aundrea
Romantic rejection alienation economic failure and they need an enemy. They need a definable enemy.

21:06.53
Bruce Anthony
Oh.

21:15.12
J. Aundrea
That will say you know it makes me think honestly of the time of enslavement and and how there are more overseers than there were masters. There were more.

21:21.83
Bruce Anthony
Oh okay.

21:30.32
Bruce Anthony
The.

21:34.50
J. Aundrea
And and who do you think was more pissed off when we received emancipation right? because now you're telling they they had so they didn't have the money but they had a position.

21:40.30
Bruce Anthony
All those overseers. Yeah.

21:48.43
Bruce Anthony
They had the power. Yeah, not yeah, it was it was There was a hierarchy. Yeah.

21:53.46
J. Aundrea
They had power ah but not real power. It was loaned power. It wasn't real power. Um, but they had a position above and now they're having to work alongside. Yes, yeah, who who joined the posses.

22:07.73
Bruce Anthony
There was a hierarchy. Yeah.

22:12.71
Bruce Anthony
Who.

22:13.22
J. Aundrea
Dolls all overseers they're the ones who are doing that so it it makes me think of the same thing people need an external enemy and who better than the people you. Were above but who are now seeing higher educational outcomes who are closing the wage gap is not closed yet but there but we're seeing more economic growth black women in this country.

22:36.74
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, closing name closed yet? yeah.

22:46.36
J. Aundrea
Are still number one in terms of entrepreneurship and starting new Businesses. You're seeing women advocate for um, ah, mental health and therapy and and things like that and. Breaking generational curses and setting boundaries and things like that. So These are people that you used to be in a position of power over and now people are telling you you have to work alongside them.

23:14.57
Bruce Anthony
A. Yeah, and men aren't taking it. Well yeah, well right? So It's Interesting. It's funny that I never even thought about that loan power because you're absolutely right. Overseers had loaned power.

23:24.10
J. Aundrea
It's easier. They're not gonna take it.

23:37.25
Bruce Anthony
And men by and large had this loaned respectability. Another words you know there were some out there were some men out there that was out there taking care of the families bringing home. The bread that there was that old traditional male where the wife was a homemaker but.

23:37.67
J. Aundrea
Um, and.

23:43.81
J. Aundrea
M.

23:55.13
J. Aundrea
Is correct.

23:57.23
Bruce Anthony
There were some men out there that was not doing that but they still were better than that woman who was the Susy Homemaker who if she did go to college. It was only for nursing or to be a school teacheracher like that or did I even did they even have to go to college to be a secretary. Ok.

24:06.30
J. Aundrea
Our secretary. Yeah, you had to learn Shorthand and type in and all of that some light some light accounting. So.

24:16.20
Bruce Anthony
Okay, all right all right I stand corrected so that sucks. But also I'm I'm not saying I agree with it. So let me just let me say that first I do not agree with it I understand it though.

24:26.55
J. Aundrea
And also let's be clear men with their shit together are not in the manosphere. Yeah.

24:32.53
Bruce Anthony
No, they are not these are well. There might be men. You talk about mentally and emotionally with their shit together I'm I know for effect you look at the men you we're gonna get to the point.

24:40.60
J. Aundrea
And they got some money in their pocket and they they got a yeah.

24:48.88
Bruce Anthony
We're going to get later in the show where we talk about the influencers in this manosphere they have money but also yeah, okay, okay.

24:50.16
J. Aundrea
Oh yeah, I'm not talking about the opportunist I'm talking about the people within the man sphere the actual community of people within the manosphere.

25:02.90
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, ah yes, and and for those men we'll get into later those Endcels and things of that nature who are basically celibate because they can't get no woman. Um, you got to bring more to the table than just I have a good job like I said that's not getting.

25:10.72
J. Aundrea
And. Right? Get there.

25:19.56
Bruce Anthony
That can get you women that can get you certain type of woman but that's not getting you women if you never developed a personality. You know what are your interests? Um, if all you're doing is talking about. You know your job and your material possession. Some women still absolutely dig that.

25:21.50
J. Aundrea
That.

25:27.48
J. Aundrea
Right.

25:37.99
J. Aundrea
Yes.

25:38.34
Bruce Anthony
You could find Joe Lane you just competing with a lot of men that might be better off than you financially. So those women that are attracted to that type of thing you're gonna be down on the on the peck in order. what do what do we establish that that what was that the totem pole which one was the high and the low.

25:44.44
J. Aundrea
And then.

25:50.63
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

25:57.83
Bruce Anthony
We didnt we couldn't figure that out which was bad being on low or the high the totem pole. Yeah, don't want be on low right? right? So okay so we've been going on and on and on about this man sphere What is it.

26:01.21
J. Aundrea
Oh you want to? you don't want to be the low man on the Tolen pole because you're supporting everybody above you. Yeah.

26:16.68
Bruce Anthony
So the manosphere is a network of online communities focused on men's issues and generally genuinely holds Anti-feminist views. Ah they express that Feminism is harmful. The manosphere is often views feminism as harmful to society and men not just men.

26:24.59
J. Aundrea
M.

26:34.27
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

26:34.87
Bruce Anthony
To society so they look at as women um getting education going out there getting their money is a detriment to society and you know where that comes from right that comes from if women are out there working and and doing all these things who's gonna be home taking care of the kids because they had this outdated view.

26:49.68
J. Aundrea
Bright.

26:54.64
Bruce Anthony
Once again, going to 1 of the issues that they have the changing of the gender norms they have this outdated view of what life is they they want to go back to the 60 s.

26:57.60
J. Aundrea
Right? No, they don't and that's the that's another thing and here's why they they buy in a lot to gender roles those traditional gender roles. And the gender binary. But here's why it doesn't work and why it ultimately is unnatural because they are saying they want to go back to the time where the man was the breadwinner and the head of the household and the woman was the housekeeper.

27:28.41
Bruce Anthony
E.

27:30.77
J. Aundrea
But at the same time they're decrying what they call quote unquote gold diggers right? at the same time they want you to go fifty fifty on the bills but but still pick up 100% of the care of the children like they don't they want but they don't want.

27:37.65
Bruce Anthony
Um, right.

27:44.26
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, yeah.

27:49.88
J. Aundrea
They look like this but they don't want that but they also what like it's never really defined what you actually want What are you actually looking for and the reason it is is because it is an unnatural position to put both parties into.

28:04.65
Bruce Anthony
A.

28:06.67
J. Aundrea
To put both parties into this tiny little box where you can only act this way and you can only be this way and nothing else or you're not a woman or you're not a man. But even within that binary there is still so much hypocrisy and and confusion like it sounds Confusing. We as women have no idea.

28:27.34
Bruce Anthony
There.

28:38.46
J. Aundrea
What men are actually looking for because it's you're getting such conflicting messages. That's what I wanted to talk The messages is conflicting as l.

28:46.60
Bruce Anthony
Now Why would men be confused. What are some of the most confused males in the world teenagers. Why why? because a lot of them aren't having sex.

28:56.38
J. Aundrea
Out Tell me. Yeah. Children.

29:05.34
Bruce Anthony
You need that after sex clarity. So these so these mid out here these men out here with no afters sex Clarity Justfuse and run around their teenagers. So ah, this Manos Sphere feminism.

29:15.45
J. Aundrea
Right.

29:24.38
J. Aundrea
Over.

29:24.71
Bruce Anthony
Is a big enemy because it threatens society. It also creates this idea that men are being prejudiced against so that was the that was their situation. There was their angst against the metoo movement now that.

29:35.96
J. Aundrea
Um.

29:40.30
J. Aundrea
Right.

29:42.17
Bruce Anthony
I have something to say about that if men out here. Not realizing how often women are being sexually assaulted y'all are stupid was it a statistic that I read 1 time that every 2 and 3 women have been sexually assaulted. Now the sexual assault varies right? groping to full on sexual assault I don't like saying that the that the r word but full on sexual assault it varies but every basically every woman that you know in your life has been sexually assaulted somehow.

30:00.97
J. Aundrea
M.

30:08.80
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

30:19.22
Bruce Anthony
Women have to walk around in fear all of the time because men think that women are their possession. This is another thing that's preached in the man sphere that males are the superiority and women are there to be their property.

30:21.21
J. Aundrea
M.

30:34.95
J. Aundrea
Yes.

30:37.97
Bruce Anthony
And you have women on there that are afraid that things happen to them and they don't speak up because for various reasons there are various reasons why women don't speak up and there are various reasons. Why.

30:48.99
J. Aundrea
Um.

30:53.40
Bruce Anthony
If 1 woman speaks up. It gives another woman courage to speak up. That's the reason why you saw Domino effects of all these women coming forward talking against Weinstein against Cosby hell ah give Ray come out about Vince Mcmahon you know it's reason why it's it's it's.

30:55.89
J. Aundrea
Yes.

31:09.58
J. Aundrea
Um, ah well.

31:11.79
Bruce Anthony
1 person gives another person the strength to speak their truth these idiots I hear saying and and and and I already talked about Vince Mann on the show on Tuesday but I read the comments Vince Mc Mann did something horrible. He was a part of something absolutely horrible to this young lady and I read these comments.

31:13.21
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

31:30.48
Bruce Anthony
And these guys are like well she took the money it wasn't she didn't mind that bad was she was getting this and that it was a deal that she had because they was getting. You know he gave her a good job. Yes, he did give her a good job and they did have a consensual relationship in the beginning but when he starts pimping her out to his. Friends and she's like I'm not fill this and he's like you're going to do it Anyway, that's when it crosses the line if any man doesn't understand that if any man doesn't understand that go to Jail because I guarantee you when youre step foot and you those bars clash behind you.

31:52.50
J. Aundrea
Ah.

31:57.88
J. Aundrea
That's where I profit a lot.

32:10.80
Bruce Anthony
You're going to know what it's like to be treated as a woman because you're meat in prison. Don't nobody want to talk about that. No man wants to go to prison and like oh man, that's stuff like yeah, what do you think men do out there to women is the same thing that men do to men in prison.

32:18.40
J. Aundrea
Um, right.

32:25.77
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

32:27.94
Bruce Anthony
So that fear that you have being in prison. That's the fear that women live with every single day men need to shut the hell up when a woman says she's been assaulted look are there women out there that lie. Yes, but how often is it few and far between there are more women I guarantee you I can I bet my life on it.

32:39.79
J. Aundrea
M.

32:45.95
Bruce Anthony
There are more women that don't say anything than there are women who lie not even close so these are all the things that are happening in the menosphere and these are podcasts and television shows that that.

32:46.85
J. Aundrea
Right? That's absolutely true.

32:56.30
J. Aundrea
M.

33:02.79
Bruce Anthony
Algorithms are pushing to these young men and I will tell you because I'm the one who clears the comments that go on our Youtube page and we get a ton of comments and people are like well I look at your videos I'll see a lot of comments.

33:03.56
J. Aundrea
Yes.

33:12.60
J. Aundrea
M.

33:18.80
Bruce Anthony
Because let me tell you something me and my sister this is a prime example this episode talk about real shit and those men don't like it and so there's a lot of negativity on Youtube but if I start talking about how men are superior to women.

33:24.16
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

33:37.53
Bruce Anthony
And I start feeding it in the manosphere I'm gonna get a lot of right on preach own brother. That's what I'm talking about there's gonna be a lot of likes a lot of comments. So Youtube is pushing algorithms I g tickt tock are pushing these algorithms because if you click it 1 time the algorithm says oh you like it. It's gonna start.

33:44.60
J. Aundrea
M.

33:53.66
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

33:57.55
Bruce Anthony
Beaten it and bombard it with you and these kids fall in kids these men fall into this this toxic and kids yet. That's the major problem because we're talking about gen z and yes, there are some twenty year olds that are NGGenZ but the majority of them.

34:02.64
J. Aundrea
But kids Also yes yeah.

34:14.62
Bruce Anthony
Basically teenagers right now that's specifically what I'm talking about they're being influenced by some of these podcast influencers who are using them gaming them because they're getting money from it and you know So yeah.

34:21.94
J. Aundrea
Yes, yeah, yeah I mean I think I I I get why you use the analogy the the Prison algae. But the reason why. Analogies like that don't work for guys in the manosphere to incels and men's right acts of men's rights activists and things like that.

34:50.18
Bruce Anthony
Men's men's rights act. There's there's men's rights and father rights activists now. Okay, all right? okay.

34:55.52
J. Aundrea
Yes, um, the reason why it doesn't work is because inherent in analogies like that is like the foundational idea that you see people as human beings.

35:10.38
Bruce Anthony
Um, preach to him.

35:11.78
J. Aundrea
And because they don't see women as human beings they are property. That's why I I You can find such parallels in in the manosphere with how people acted during enslavement and and.

35:15.49
Bruce Anthony
Oh.

35:30.69
J. Aundrea
Post emancipation and all of that toy black or now or now right.

35:31.44
Bruce Anthony
Or now or now yeah because I was I was having an interesting conversation with somebody and they were saying in the army in our armed forces. They will come up with these derogatory names for the enemy.

35:40.59
J. Aundrea
M.

35:47.40
J. Aundrea
Mm.

35:47.76
Bruce Anthony
Which basically helps the soldier. The soldier dehumanize their enemy so that they can attack. This is a common tactic in America we often dehumanize our enemy you see it in a lot of things that happened with Justin in the first segment he talked about.

35:53.31
J. Aundrea
Yes, yeah, um.

36:07.70
Bruce Anthony
Leftist woke. Blm for some reason has become a a a rallying cry for for those people to downgrade as anti-b black. Yeah, it's anti-b black it's antib black anytime somebody says blm in a and derogatory manner.

36:10.10
J. Aundrea
Um.

36:14.48
J. Aundrea
It for and anti black racism. Yeah.

36:24.26
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

36:24.85
Bruce Anthony
You You tell it on yourself I know exactly who the hell you are um, but that's that's what it is and so you're right? It's a dehumanization of women.

36:34.72
J. Aundrea
And other men because if you have ah because I guarantee. Ah you probably seen comments where you're a simp cut Beta These are all these are all. Again, Buzzwords right to dehumanize.

36:51.67
Bruce Anthony
Oh you think I didn't I just had Dr arram Weiss talking about men's fear of women and I post some clips on Youtube oh hell yeah there was a lot of comments from from those men or there's some simp stuff and and you know what's really funny to me.

36:55.79
J. Aundrea
No, and.

37:09.81
Bruce Anthony
All these guys and we'll get into the main target in in the next segment we could bring him up now Andrew Tate we gonna talk about Andrew Tate's as because he is a former professional boxer but most of these guys that say these things would never say it to my face because I am coming out there like a black.

37:18.40
J. Aundrea
In.

37:26.94
J. Aundrea
Wow.

37:28.91
Bruce Anthony
Jack Reacher and will snatch their eyeball out of their mouth. Their their keyboard work tough guys. Yeah, snatch their eyeball out of their mouth. That's right, you reach in you put your fist through a mouth and then you do the signs.

37:31.95
J. Aundrea
Out of their mouth out of their mouth and then what through the science I'm trying to figure out. Yeah.

37:45.46
Bruce Anthony
Through the sign you you see you do the syus you go in through the sinus and pluck it and you pluck pull it down down their throat pull it through their throat in the Fallopian tubes and pull out their mouth I You sure.

37:51.80
J. Aundrea
To no those aren't those aren't there. That's no positive positive that there are no Fallopian tubes.

38:08.10
Bruce Anthony
But you go Well, you know oh know it in the throat into the throat. Ok all right? Um, but basically you know stand on manosphere.

38:09.36
J. Aundrea
In the throat. Yeah I am yeah pretty positive about that.

38:21.00
Bruce Anthony
Um, it's impacting young men because it's often the manosphere is often blamed for the negativity shaping Young men's attitudes towards gender equality and feminism um gender equality like I made a mistake earlier when I said you know.

38:30.67
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

38:39.24
Bruce Anthony
2 genders male and female. There's more than that. But for this purpose I was specific with yeah that that's where they operate. But yeah, they they're coming and they and it's there's this male separatism.

38:41.27
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah, we're talking in the gender binary because that's where they operate.

38:58.31
Bruce Anthony
Ideology The of the manosphere is centered on male separatism and some groups advocate for complete disengagement from women now personally that sounds to me that they just don't want women.

39:07.47
J. Aundrea
M.

39:13.65
J. Aundrea
A lot of it is that a lot of it is they just hate women but but more than that they hate themselves. No no yeah, no, there was a question about that who was a jackass had died.

39:16.44
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, so. None and that's not what I meant by that. That's not what I meant by that.

39:29.12
Bruce Anthony
I took wait a minute damn time out. You just said the jackass that died That's how you go. That's how you go phrase that the man is dead I'm I'm assuming that the jackass is male. The man is dead and you just go calm is he recently dead.

39:30.34
J. Aundrea
Um, but he was very popular. Yeah, he was yeah.

39:43.40
J. Aundrea
yeah yeah yeah I mean not I mean not not recently what was that man's day. Ah Kevin some Kevin Kevin

39:48.19
Bruce Anthony
He said jackass not Kevin Smith you talk about Kevin Owen no not Kevin owe ah Keith Lee no not Keith Lee ah Kevin I know you talk Kevin Samuels

40:04.90
J. Aundrea
Kevin Samuels that's it yay I think there was some ah yeah yeah, he did. Ah um, yeah, um, so anyway there was some.

40:05.21
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, you talk about Kevin Samuels he did just die recently though it was like it was last year

40:19.16
J. Aundrea
I Think he had a video of something that talking about that separatist stuff and there was a rumor that he may have been homosexual. Um, but it is is it's sort of like taking control of.

40:28.64
Bruce Anthony
Her.

40:36.41
J. Aundrea
Your own narrative. So like say for instance, there's something about you that people make fun of right? and so you kind of preempt that by making jokes about it before they do. So it's like oh yeah, yeah, I'm a separatist no women don't mess with you but instead, but instead of like.

40:40.20
Bruce Anthony
Oh.

40:51.55
Bruce Anthony
You ugly and Corny and women don't rock with you like that.

40:55.65
J. Aundrea
Take an ownership of that you're just that right? because because to them The fact that women are not attracted to them is just what's wrong with society. Ok.

41:08.91
Bruce Anthony
Oh.

41:11.55
J. Aundrea
And instead of like self-reflection saying hey maybe I should get a haircut maybe I should maybe I should well maybe I Should you know lather it up, put some shade butter on my head or something. But.

41:16.88
Bruce Anthony
But what if they can't grow no hair where if they can't grow no hair.

41:26.34
Bruce Anthony
So shape. But right.

41:29.84
J. Aundrea
Maybe I should get a new wardrobe. Maybe I should read a book. Maybe ah maybe I'll go back to school or learn a trade or ah leave the current job I'm in and try something else or start a business or maybe I'll move out my mama basement and stop. You know. Stop with the Twitter fingers and and put my hands to use like there's you know there's a there's a lady on Tiktok and she was like all these men were podcasts winner when when are y'all gonna go build a house.

41:59.35
Bruce Anthony
Well some of us don't have that type of ability. Okay I I don't I personally don't and and I don't want to build us. Yeah, first. Yeah.

42:03.21
J. Aundrea
But you know but you you want women to go back to those traditional roles. Not you specifically? yeah, not you specifically, but it's like ok, we'll go build a house then you know.

42:20.37
Bruce Anthony
Go be a carpetent I ain't Jesus I'm not Jesus. Okay, so but I don't I don't question no more for women than what I'm willing to put in the situation I don't expect them to follow certain gender roles. Um, that's just.

42:21.88
J. Aundrea
Go P E Harpenter right? Yeah, but but yeah, right.

42:38.65
J. Aundrea
But you but you you were yeah you no, you don't know right.

42:38.87
Bruce Anthony
That's just me personally but also I'm I'm a almost 44 year old single male. So Maybe I got maybe I got it all wrong. Maybe I need to be in the man those fear. So no, no ok well they were women either right. They want a complete separation from women. Yeah a year with a lot a lot men. Yeah, how day.

42:58.30
J. Aundrea
And at least at least you date like they they they get no play. They get no play but instead but again instead of that self-reflection you have men who have deluded themselves First of all in this in the manosphere who have deluded themselves into thinking that they're actually good men.

43:14.89
Bruce Anthony
A.

43:17.34
J. Aundrea
You're not I've seen the stuff you guys say online, you're not, You're not good men. Um, if you were you would get women but you don't um, instead of that self-reflection their turn and their ire that hatred that they have for themselves.

43:24.83
Bruce Anthony
E.

43:32.50
Bruce Anthony
E.

43:34.53
J. Aundrea
And they're projecting it onto again needing a definable enemy and who better than women. Yeah, that's that's why we see it. What.

43:38.19
Bruce Anthony
But that is also that is also human nature human nature is first to deflect rather than reflect or inflect which word which word is it which word and when you look nward.

43:54.31
J. Aundrea
You reflect or or you might be thinking of introspection which is the same yeah instead of instead of them reflect and they die. But yeah, but.

43:56.40
Bruce Anthony
Reflect? Yeah, okay so de flight but that doesn't work with deflect you, You're the linguist I need help with these words reflecting day de fle. Yeah.

44:10.19
J. Aundrea
But that's why you see again the same behavior in all of these same systems of oppression. It's the same behavior over and over when you go and you look at the Lgbtq community and you see the treatment that Trans people get from their own community of people.

44:13.68
Bruce Anthony
E.

44:24.00
Bruce Anthony
Right? Because everybody thinks the Lgb T Q Plus Community is all Kumba Kumba Ah no, they are not They are not yes, be beef between people who are gay.

44:29.69
J. Aundrea
No, no there. There are some full turfs up in there like yeah, so. Yes, yeah.

44:42.18
Bruce Anthony
And people who are bisexual. It be like real beef and I was like I don't understand this be I don't understand the beef because I'm I'm an ally to the community. But I'm not in the community. Um, so I don't understand the beef but it's not for me to understand. It's just like hey we got beef I'm like all right? Well I mean maybe we can all just get along.

44:50.59
J. Aundrea
Right. Yeah. Yeah, but this kind of behavior is a tale as old as time like you see it over and over how does one become a nazi how does one become a Klan member. How does one become you know like you see it.

45:01.65
Bruce Anthony
You know, maybe maybe we all can get just good along. But um.

45:15.99
Bruce Anthony
A republican.

45:19.40
J. Aundrea
Yeah I mean you see it over and over again instead of seeking seeking out healthy community and therapy. You have very lonely very lost men.

45:27.46
Bruce Anthony
E.

45:34.92
J. Aundrea
Who are being preyed upon and taken advantage of by opportunists and.

45:39.17
Bruce Anthony
Oo opportunist we gonna get to them next.

45:48.71
J. Aundrea
Um.

45:50.60
Bruce Anthony
So we were talking about the manosphere but who are these people that are in a manosphere that are major influencers. Well we already talked about Andrew Tate and if you don't know who Andrew Tate is he's a misogynist influencer. He's a former boxing champion.

45:53.24
J. Aundrea
And.

46:00.71
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yes.

46:09.34
Bruce Anthony
He was also arrested of suspicion and rape and sex ah sex trafficking and 2022 I don't remember what's going on with that court case but I knew when it happened I was like that sounds about right? yeah.

46:19.23
J. Aundrea
Ah, it's still pending. Yeah I mean it's not like listen. The only people who listen to what he says and doesn't immediately think trafficking human beings are people in the manospher.

46:33.70
Bruce Anthony
Writing but.

46:36.24
J. Aundrea
And any other normal human being listening to Andrew Tate would be like I feel like this guy is a criminal.

46:43.39
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, and he there is something that came out recently where um he was pitching something to kids a lot of kids were signing up for it and paying for it and it was a scam or something like that. He's a scam artist. He's he's a scammer. Um, but just to prove.

46:55.84
J. Aundrea
Um, and yeah.

47:00.90
Bruce Anthony
Just to prove in that binary definition of gender male and females that is not all men that are in the manistfield manosphere. There's pearl Davis now I felt like.

47:06.46
J. Aundrea
Yes I case and this half a now now.

47:15.31
Bruce Anthony
When she start I think she got progressively learned worse but hold on but for for people that don't know who Pearl Davis is it's a woman who promotes many similar ideas to tates including that women shouldn't vote she has a podcast I'm not promoting any of their podcasts like I'm not gonna tell you what the name of their podcast is ah.

47:27.81
J. Aundrea
Um, now absolutely not.

47:33.91
Bruce Anthony
Like no I'm not goingnna do that but she's interesting because I remember discovering her on Tiktok kind of when Tiktok was first coming out and some of the stuff that she was saying weren't extreme right.

47:41.45
J. Aundrea
M.

47:47.82
J. Aundrea
Dry.

47:50.55
Bruce Anthony
She was just saying she was basically saying a lot of stuff that we would say that ah men and women had to make sure in the beginning she would say ah men and women had to make sure that you date who it is that you are trying to fit in your life meaning that.

48:04.65
J. Aundrea
Right.

48:07.49
Bruce Anthony
If you want a partner and you want to go fifty fifty then don't date a woman who wants to be a home um maker right? right? So she used to preset and begin it and then slowly but surely.

48:13.79
J. Aundrea
Yeah I say that all the time date people with similar value systems. But.

48:26.63
Bruce Anthony
And I know how it happened I can see the thirstiness in it because I almost sometimes fall victim to it. But you know I can't be bought um, but you post something on Instagram or Tiktok or Youtube and it gains traffic and you're like oh that feels good I'm gonna lean.

48:33.70
J. Aundrea
And.

48:43.32
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

48:46.21
Bruce Anthony
Into that because I know it'll gain traffic and she's a woman promoting these misogynistic values. So when men when most of the men hate women and say that we need to be separate. They're going to choose her to be the champion because people always choose.

48:55.84
J. Aundrea
That's not.

49:04.88
Bruce Anthony
That one person in a group Tim Scott that will champion their cause right? white people. Love Tim Scott because he'll say the things that they say but now it's a black person saying it. Oh.

49:12.15
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

49:20.15
Bruce Anthony
Tim Scott said the country isn't racist so we were right? all along? No no, you were not but but so so these men in the manus field will put their arm around pearl because she's she's speaking what they deem is their truth.

49:22.46
J. Aundrea
Now now. Tim Scott is just a poem. Um, yeah.

49:36.70
J. Aundrea
But you know oh yeah, those.

49:37.49
Bruce Anthony
Um, and then you got Myron games. Um, he wrote why women deserve ah less um and argues that modern women are unfairly benefiting from feminism at men's expense. Um, and basically it's all these people.

49:47.89
J. Aundrea
His hairline deserves less.

49:56.41
Bruce Anthony
That Ah, that are pushing these themes out and they're getting rich. They're getting rich off it and you know what I don't know if they believe exactly what they're saying.

50:01.50
J. Aundrea
Rich.

50:08.16
J. Aundrea
They don't and and and I can tell. Ah, even Kevin Samuels was not the extreme. He was actually a lot more ah moderate or you know talking about gender equality. But that wasn't getting him likes and clicks and views and when he realized that he could capitalize on this incel culture then that's when you see it check they are they are purely opportunist.

50:24.54
Bruce Anthony
Here.

50:35.78
Bruce Anthony
The shift.

50:42.42
J. Aundrea
Purely opportunist and Pearl is not an anomaly the way that Roe V Wade was able to be overturned the way that Donald Trump got into office the first time and may possibly get into office a second time is not going to be just through men alone.

50:44.54
Bruce Anthony
A.

50:56.94
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, so.

50:59.35
J. Aundrea
There are women that are there supporting them the same women who's made picnic baskets for the men going out for the lynching and who sold them Damn Ku Klux klanhoods them same women. Okay, they the same or were they're at the lynching.

51:12.27
Bruce Anthony
Um, right or were there at the lynching because don't.

51:17.20
J. Aundrea
And then now and then also let's be clear I'm not just talking about white women because you can go down to any Ame Zion Baptist Church and find a Miss Pearl who is talking about the same bullshit. Yes, a miss pearly sister pearl deacon.

51:28.80
Bruce Anthony
A black miss pearl a black miss Pearl ok, that's what sister per there we go.

51:36.19
J. Aundrea
Deacon is pearl who is talking about the same bullshit that these guys are talking about did yes yeah, the ones that are.

51:39.10
Bruce Anthony
I Remember when women were women. That's what they'll say that when you hear a woman say something like that she write on she write on the outside of that manosphere.

51:53.92
J. Aundrea
The ones that are so critical especially of young women. Oh she fasts she that she that just but that's not your damn business. It's natural damn business. So none of these people are anomalies opportunists will always find a way to.

51:57.24
Bruce Anthony
And she might be fast, but so what this not your business.

52:12.56
J. Aundrea
Cash in on grievances. Ah Donald Trump is the opportunist. He's doing this exact same thing. Ah, most politicians are opportunists in that way where they cash in.

52:22.27
Bruce Anthony
Um.

52:23.90
J. Aundrea
On your grievances the whole weapons of mass destruction. We even we got into a damn war off a lie capitalizing off of people's grievances. It is an old playbook and its stillle works and these people are rich and the fact that you ah your.

52:34.84
Bruce Anthony
Um.

52:43.58
J. Aundrea
Their hatred and your bias is so ingrained that you can't even see when you're being played played for filth is the saddest part of all of that that your need for community and belonging. And to have someone to blame for how shitty your life is has made you completely blind to the fact that you are being used and quite frankly abused by these people who are making dollar First of all, my opinion is free.

53:09.37
Bruce Anthony
E.

53:16.63
Bruce Anthony
You? Well we give we get perspectives but that ain't free by the way donate and support the podcast right right.

53:19.16
J. Aundrea
So if they if they really no no no I mean but I mean oh yeah, because my opinion ain't free, but like you know, an opinion is free right? So if these are people who really care about men's rights. Why are they charging you for it.

53:38.80
Bruce Anthony
E.

53:42.56
J. Aundrea
Why are you going after children who have disposable income.

53:46.62
Bruce Anthony
Well if I if I remember correctly Malcolm and Martin didn't charge for their speeches on equality for me because we and african hit we and ah, but but.

53:54.59
J. Aundrea
Now.

54:03.48
Bruce Anthony
Is it Africanamerican history month or black American History month I don't like the term African-american I like black American Better I Just so much to I just mess with you just massive with you.

54:07.80
J. Aundrea
Um, on that note everybody? Ah, but the black card has been revoked. It is black history month.

54:24.50
Bruce Anthony
But so some people call it Africanamerican history month. Some people do some people do some white people with some white people I know they' but like it's African Um, hope no I.

54:24.53
J. Aundrea
It is it. Ah I don't know anybody that the calls it that I I would I would take Negro History week before I will take f hit fair.

54:39.00
Bruce Anthony
No I had a but I had a white person come up to me it' just like it's Africanamerican history month I was like it black history month. Ah black history month. Ah ah Int African-american and better I was like I personally don't like term Africanamerican because there are some people who are African-american who are white because they're african.

54:43.15
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

54:55.85
J. Aundrea
They're up yeah up well I don't know who Charlie Phaseon is but charise Theron I do know and that.

54:57.90
Bruce Anthony
American Charlie Theison is a prime example. She's african american. Look you know I'm gonna mess up a name or two charlies bro you know her real name is Charlie phase on.

55:09.10
J. Aundrea
Ah, you know it's just it's it's It's just that It's not that I don't like the term African-american It's just that It's not accurate. Um, you know because there are.

55:20.38
Bruce Anthony
Right? It's not accurate.

55:26.53
J. Aundrea
Africans who are american you know they've immigrated from Africa they are african american um.

55:27.20
Bruce Anthony
Right? Yeah, well it is. We can. Both agree is better than afro american which is something that black people were called in this country at 1 time at for did we are you sure.

55:38.81
J. Aundrea
We called ourselves that yes we called ourselves that we didn't want to be colored anymore. Yeah, so.

55:45.96
Bruce Anthony
Okay, so we did buy a hairstyle even though there are white people that have Afros but okay.

55:51.87
J. Aundrea
I Don't know that Afro America is really connected to the afro hairstyle Actually I'll have to look that up because I don't know that for for certain. Yeah.

56:00.92
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, you look there but that that's something that we look up a black history in my but just so everybody knows that we're not bashing men all show because we're getting close to the end here you sent me something that actually offended me that you that you.

56:10.18
J. Aundrea
Right? right? yeah.

56:20.51
Bruce Anthony
Thoughts that I would think a certain way about it so we don't have the video so I give us anopsis of the video. There are 2 people on a date was a dating show. Okay, there's 2 to ah a black maleil and a black female on a date and they're doing you know what? you do on the first date ask a bunch of questions.

56:25.36
J. Aundrea
I Believe it was a dating show. Yes. Yeah, so he was doing like a rapid fire type of 20 questions type of thing so he would say black or white. Oh you know up or down you know, spring or fall beecher mountains you know like things like that.

56:40.34
Bruce Anthony
And as he's asking. Yeah rapid. But.

56:49.83
Bruce Anthony
Michael or Michael a prince like these were the questions that he was asking in the middle of those questions he asked choked or spanked. Ah she was offended that he would.

56:53.46
J. Aundrea
Right? yeah.

57:00.89
J. Aundrea
Um.

57:03.25
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

57:08.37
Bruce Anthony
Put a sexual context into questions and said basically um, look you know that was a sexual comment I'm not comfortable with that if you would like to continue on with this date. We can continue on with this date but we're not going to go.

57:16.21
J. Aundrea
MN.

57:26.13
Bruce Anthony
Down that direction and he proceeded to gaslight her and say well. That's not a sexual question. She was like how is that not a sexual question and I'm trying to figure out how that isn't a sexual question because that's a sexual question.

57:27.32
J. Aundrea
It's right.

57:39.33
J. Aundrea
Well it it wasn't even like he said it like that it was more like you. Yeah I didn't mean it in that way or you didn't at you didn't give me the respect of asking me whether I meant it in a sexual way and she was just like I think any human being who heard that.

57:50.23
Bruce Anthony
Right? That's what he said.

57:58.95
J. Aundrea
Would say which is a perfect thing to say to a gaslighter of like actually any body with common sense who would hear that and immediately know that you it does have a sexual connotation and.

58:00.86
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, yeah.

58:06.27
Bruce Anthony
Right.

58:14.79
J. Aundrea
All all she simply said was that's not something I'm comfortable with asking he doubled down on it I asked you something you know how do you feel about that and she's like I'm not comfortable with it. But if you want to continue this date. You know, just drop it. We'll just move on and he tripled down.

58:31.88
Bruce Anthony
And he yes he tripled down and she walked out she walked out so you sent this video to me and you were like what do you think and I was like we mean what I think I think that she was right? That was great. Um, applaud the sister for for walking out the date and you were so happy I was like.

58:36.37
J. Aundrea
Yep.

58:45.82
J. Aundrea
Um, but.

58:47.57
Bruce Anthony
Damage ja like what like who do you think I am to think that I would I would be on his side. Ah old Bruce wouldn't even been on his side now. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no oh Bruce E.

58:49.30
J. Aundrea
Well at that na it nab now old Bruce old Bruce would have been like she had to get up walk out like that she didn't you don't think so.

59:06.90
Bruce Anthony
No, even it went because when she said a you was Ill for what you just said. But I'm continue on with this. Let's just move past it I would have been like okay cool if she had I In fact, in the matter is like I knew I would have been wrong if I had said something like that. So I wouldn't have been upset if she had bounced.

59:15.13
J. Aundrea
Um.

59:22.99
J. Aundrea
Yeah.

59:24.99
Bruce Anthony
No, there was no part of Bruce's life where Bruce would I I hate referring to myself as a third person but there's no part of my life where I would have been like this is cool. What I was most impressed about is that I said okay because I always like to gauge things by going into comments. So I went into the comments and I was like I know what women's position is gonna be.

59:30.47
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

59:39.73
J. Aundrea
Um, yeah.

59:43.62
Bruce Anthony
Let me hear what some of the men were saying and all the men were saying exact same thing. It's kind of easy because this was absolutely egregious. What this man was doing but it was still the the fact that even though we talk about the man sphere and there's a lot of people in Gen Z and.

59:49.65
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah.

01:00:01.72
Bruce Anthony
And millennials and Gen X and this is really a boomer thing. Um that that have these type of thoughts. There are a lot of men out there that don't have these type of thoughts as well. So I was really really, That's what I was most pleased about I was happy about I was as happy about that as you were.

01:00:03.91
J. Aundrea
Oh.

01:00:10.48
J. Aundrea
Correct.

01:00:21.18
Bruce Anthony
About my comment even though when you were so happy about that. My comment I was actually offended that you were so happy.

01:00:27.64
J. Aundrea
I was not actually have I honestly just wanted your thoughts on what on what the what you saw I just wanted your thoughts and I thought you know it might be something interesting for the show. Ah.

01:00:37.66
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, you know it was well it would have been better if there was if she if she wasn't if there was some wiggle room in between what he said and her actions but there weren't they these were clear cut.

01:00:51.80
J. Aundrea
Yeah street.

01:00:54.25
Bruce Anthony
He knew what he was doing. He knew what he was saying she said a boundary she said let's continue on she Not only did she not get up and walk out. She gave this young brother another chance when she didn't have to because it was disrespectful from the jump.

01:01:04.58
J. Aundrea
You're right now.

01:01:13.10
Bruce Anthony
But she took that it is like him give me I would date this young lady she wasn't really my type but I would date this young lady just because she give a brother a second chance because I'm a mess up 2 3 full times mature that was a real mature way of handling it.

01:01:22.13
J. Aundrea
Yeah, yeah, and I think that was I think that was fair Honestly, yeah because I don't know that I would have especially well if he would have asked a question and I would have said I'm not comfortable with asking you know with answering that.

01:01:31.21
Bruce Anthony
You definitely wouldn't have you personally.

01:01:41.60
J. Aundrea
And then would a come back with the so how'd you feel about that and I well I said what I said I'm not comfortable with can we but I would have said can we move on I don't know I mean can we stop talking about it and move on or I probably would have had the same reaction as her can we move on.

01:01:47.58
Bruce Anthony
J I know you.

01:01:56.98
Bruce Anthony
Okay, where you he.

01:02:00.96
J. Aundrea
And if you can't move on then that less mean no if you will do this first meeting me like you ain't even putting your good foot forward. You're immediately gaslighting me. Okay, it ain't gonna get no better I'm a go ahead and cut my losses.

01:02:07.24
Bruce Anthony
First meeting. Not it? Yeah, no better right? Can she show enough. Did.

01:02:19.71
J. Aundrea
Gone take this mic off I'm happened to Uber and I'm going up. Yeah.

01:02:26.75
Bruce Anthony
All right Jay that's going, go ahead and wrap it up for today. What do you want to tell the people out there.

01:02:30.93
J. Aundrea
You know you said something at it and it's very true. There are men with their stuff together who are not in this manosphere and who support and love and the women in their lives and who know that.

01:02:39.38
Bruce Anthony
E h.

01:02:51.00
J. Aundrea
We are not living in a 0 sum world where women getting equality. Um or equity in in society is not going to take away from anybody else, right? There's more than enough for us to share y'all. Never shared before it was more than enough like there are definitely men out there like that that those men are who are going to be pivotal for combating.

01:03:12.32
Bruce Anthony
Um, yeah, right.

01:03:26.88
Bruce Anthony
Yeah, yeah.

01:03:27.70
J. Aundrea
The men in the memisphere. It's not gonna be it's not gonna be women they don't see us as human beings. They're not going to listen to us the reason why the civil rights movement was ah. Successful is because Dr King knew they weren't going to listen. But if they saw it they saw the injustice they saw the hoses and the dogs and the beating and all of that then they couldn't help but. Feel some type of way about it. So I am not comfortable putting women in a position where they got to put their bodies on the line in order to get someone to care and I honestly don't think that it'll work because our our bodies are um.

01:04:08.94
Bruce Anthony
A a.

01:04:21.13
J. Aundrea
Essentially the playground for which they you know exert their political power right? So it's it's not like us putting our bodies on the line is going to move the needle at all. It is going to take other men holding men accountable.

01:04:25.17
Bruce Anthony
A.

01:04:40.14
J. Aundrea
It's going to take other men saying a young brother listen here you got to treat a woman right? like where are those uncles at you got to treat your woman right? You got to take your ass home.

01:04:46.64
Bruce Anthony
Um, right.

01:04:51.10
Bruce Anthony
Well, right.

01:04:58.56
J. Aundrea
Gone take your ass home like you know, like where where where is that old uncle where is he at because that because Gen Z is in dire need of that old uncle that is perpetually single but does have pretty decent. Yeah.

01:04:58.57
Bruce Anthony
Right? He ain't around no more.

01:05:10.42
Bruce Anthony
Well let me be that old uncle you got to treat them right? Treat them like you want to be treated. You got to treat them right? All right? Jay I couldn't say it any better than that I want to thank everybody for listening. Thank everybody for watching.

01:05:16.55
J. Aundrea
You got? yeah you got to treat him right.

01:05:30.38
Bruce Anthony
And until next time as always our holler.