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April 4, 2023

Exploring the World of Sex Work: An Interview with Legal Madam Olivia LaRue - Part 2

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Unsolicited Perspectives

In part two of the interview with Miss Olivia LaRue, Bruce Anthony delves deeper into the challenges and complexities of sex work. They discuss different ways of making a living and explore the challenges of being a mother in the sex industry.  The conversation then turns to sex therapy, parenting, and branding, as Bruce and Olivia share their insights on how to navigate these topics in the context of the sex industry. They discuss the importance of open communication with children and the role of parents in guiding their children's understanding of sexuality.  Bruce and Olivia also discuss ways to make sex work more socially acceptable, offering advice on researching companionship services and other related fields. Their conversation is candid, thought-provoking, and informative, shedding light on a topic that is often misunderstood and stigmatized.  Join Bruce Anthony and Olivia LaRue for a compelling conversation on sex work, parenting, and branding, as they share their perspectives on these important and often overlooked topics.

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12:38.36
Bruce Anthony

So today is part 2 of 

the interview with Miss Olivia Larue the legal
madam and sex therapist today we get into

a little bit more personal ah aspects about
her life and how that relates to her work.

12:54.58
Bruce Anthony

And it's something that we think about sometimes
when we think about sex workers but I'm gonna

be real honest because I talk to a lot of
people out there. y'all are gonna get triggered

this is gonna be triggering for some people
but I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. Lot

of people are out here Judgy and I know like
everybody has some element of being judgmental

like I'm not above it I'm not I am not the
popt call on the kettle black or I am the

pot call in the kettle butt I I will be judgmental
about some stuff too I have. Certain things

and I'm not gonna put him out there because
I don't want him upset anybody about what

I'm judging about but there are absolutely
some things that I'm judgmental on I think

that's a natural thing but it's most of time.
It's born from ignorance right? Like. What

we don't understand we tend to judge and think
negatively upon it because we don't understand

it and sometimes we don't want to try to understand
it. We want to sit in that Judginess. And

I know I grew up in the church I know people
out there be judging we at the same time in

their own personal lives out there doing crazy
stuff that they should be looking in the mirror.

So a lot of times I think I feel people will
judge sex.

14:28.37
Bruce Anthony

Sex workers and we bring this up in the interview
and I talked to Olivia about it that they

will judge sex workers as the downtrodden
I didn't use that word in interview. But I'm

using it now. That's what people will look
at you know that they're all drug users or

been abused or. Self-medicating or depressed
people and that's not the case. That's not

the case of sex workers that I've known in
my own personal life because what we found

out there are dancers exotic dancers strippers
that ah, that's a form of sex work. I know

people who do only fans that's a form of sex
work and only fans doesn't have to be sex

right? Like actually intercourse it could
be just naked pictures or not even pictures

at all just torque videos I know some online
ah some only fans. Ah, people that just do

tweque videos. That's a form of sex work and
I can tell you for a fact that they do that

to pay bills put their way through school
like if if okay, um I put you all behind the

curtains.

15:43.94
Bruce Anthony

If I had a sexy body I do have a sexy body
that's um, that's number 1 but like most men

I don't think are are getting money like women
are getting okay but if I was a female then

sexy and attractive and trying to pay my way
through school and I had the choice of. Doing

estacart right? or doing only fans I'm a doing
only fans I don't even understand how that's

even in question like that's what I'm going
to do I'm going to do something to generate

that income and but people will judge and
I'm hoping. That by watching and listening

to miss Olivia Aru that you won't judge that
you'll learn. These are just people just like

you. They just do something a little bit different
for a living that's all and honestly everybody

does something for money. That's what's called
making a living we all do different things.

And there are people out there that do things
that I wouldn't do I wouldn't be a police

officer not that I think the police officers
are are bad I don't think that all police

officers are bad I've stated that several
times before ah I don't want to I don't want

to put my life on the line every day that
I go out to work.

17:15.32
Bruce Anthony

Also wouldn't be a firefighter I'm not putting
my life on the line to go out there and make

money like that I'm I'm not going to do that.
That's just me personally but I damn sure

I'm not going to judge other people for doing
it doing that. That's that's they're they're

comfortable with that. You know some people.
Do not want to try to create on their own

podcasts and put themselves on Youtube and
all the ah podcast platforms where their voices

hurt. Some people can't bring themselves to
do that. That's what I chose to do I chose

to do something that's different than other
people. Um, we all choose to do different

things that doesn't make us good or bad. Well
I mean if you break the law and you're hurting

people hold on not breaking the law because
sometimes you could break the law. You're

not hurting people if you're hurting people.
Like if what you're doing is hurting people

then okay, right? But ah Olivia is actually
doing opposite of that she is not hurting

people. She's helping people in the best way
possible. But enough of my rambling here is

part 2 of my interview with miss olivia larue

31:37.70
Bruce Anthony

So You're not only a madam a sex therapist.
You're also a mother. How do you balance the

role of a mother being a mother in the sex
industry. And have you faced it have you faced

any challenges with that.

31:56.87
Olivia LaRue

Ah, thank you for asking that question I have
like a little joke a little one-liner about

that that I say and and it takes a special
kind of woman to suck 2 dicks. And then go

to soccer practice.

32:22.14
Bruce Anthony

Hold on. Let me just put that out there. You
don't have to be in the sex work business

to be doing that anyway. So that I'm not saying
that I'm not saying that I know any people

like that. But I might know some people like
that and they're not in the sex work.

32:30.95
Olivia LaRue

Just saying.

32:39.32
Bruce Anthony

Business but but go on well wait a minute
we can't We can't do that because that's ah,

that's what pandering? Yeah, that's pandering.
That's a fan line. We were just we was making

jokes that what we're doing. We're making
jokes. Yes.

32:41.21
Olivia LaRue

Well honey. Ah, you know you could be making
some money doing what you're doing for free

now. So I'm saying pandering.

32:55.21
Olivia LaRue

I'm just being lighthearted. Um, sometimes
it can be a little tricky. Yeah, it's all

about compartmentalization. Really it is and
this this goes hand in hand with not becoming

emotionally attached to the work. Um.

33:02.38
Bruce Anthony

Are.

33:08.40
Bruce Anthony

A.

33:12.63
Olivia LaRue

This is not the job for you If you have to
be in love with someone to have sex with them.

Um, this is the job for you If people called
you a slut in high school.

33:17.90
Bruce Anthony

Um, yeah.

33:22.83
Bruce Anthony

Um, ah, ah, but aren't there some women that
that do what you do that? Maybe weren't what

okay fine hold on. Timeout they can call you
a slen high school. They didn't mean that

you were promiscuous in high school that's
number one I want to make that clear because

I know a lot of females that that got labeled
that but they weren't that because guys were

off often loudder dicks. But even if they
were promiscuous. Um, okay, fine. But.

33:50.58
Olivia LaRue

Oh.

33:59.50
Bruce Anthony

Are there some situations where women were
not promiscuous in high school and in college

and entered the field relatively a novice
sexually.

34:11.26
Olivia LaRue

Maybe I've had 1 or 2 of them come through
my doors. They don't last very long they tend

to get emotionally attached. There's nothing
wrong with that if they find themselves a

sugar daddy and.

34:13.78
Bruce Anthony

Now. Okay.

34:21.20
Bruce Anthony

Um, ah.

34:27.79
Olivia LaRue

They go off into the sunset together and that's
great.

34:30.82
Bruce Anthony

So I I'm going to get some men there gonna
comment. Let me be clear. This is not my thought

process but we have some neanderthals out
there that are going to say. Women can't have

sex unless they're emotionally invested..
What do you say to those men that think all

the all women have to be emotionally invested
in order to have a physical connection with

somebody.

34:48.71
Olivia LaRue

Is.

35:00.63
Olivia LaRue

Wow.

35:07.67
Olivia LaRue

Okay.

35:10.48
Bruce Anthony

That's perfect. That's perfect. What are some
of the challenges you faced being a mother

in the sex industry.

35:17.17
Olivia LaRue

Oh yeah, there's the challenges I face scheduling.
You know a lot I mean a lot of guys want a

date late at night and I just I can't.

35:23.12
Bruce Anthony

In here. Are.

35:32.74
Olivia LaRue

Um, up early. You know I turn into a pumpkin
at like nine o'clock I'm in my Jammy there's

other girls out there who don't have kids
or don't mind staying up later have a different

situation or whatever and go find them. That's
fine. You know that's just me I need to have

boundaries with my time. Um, it's important
for me. To know where my next shower is especially

if I'm going straight from work to soccer
practice. Um Reno is a small town. There are

men that are in my social circles of parenting
that know what I do they get my newsletter

and they read it.

35:54.94
Bruce Anthony

A a.

36:05.38
Bruce Anthony

Ahead.

36:12.20
Olivia LaRue

Like first thing and listen to all my podcasts
and they know all about it and so ah, the

challenge with that is going into you have
to be okay with a certain transparency and

a certain visibility.

36:13.67
Bruce Anthony

It if.

36:29.95
Olivia LaRue

People are gonna know yeah people are gonna
know like it's the internet. Their's faciial

recognition. You can block out your face and
you can do all this stuff if you really have

to but I found that from my experience that
this might not be the case. The.

36:31.56
Bruce Anthony

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

36:48.76
Olivia LaRue

The escorts that have to black out their face
and be super secretive and stuff they live

in this life of fear they live in fear and
anxiety that people are going to find out

and lot of I don't have time for that if you
don't like what I do fine I Really don't care.

36:52.88
Bruce Anthony

And.

37:02.17
Bruce Anthony

Have you had any issues with parents or the
pta or soccer moms or soccer coaches or anything

like that or or just parents the parents of
potentially. Kids that would be friends with

your kids and and just any judgment from them
that would maybe your kids were friends with

other kids and their parents were like no,
we don't want you to play with them. Yeah.

37:21.17
Olivia LaRue

M.

37:34.76
Olivia LaRue

Yeah, that that that I've had a teaspoon or
suit of 2 of those you know it happens it

happens people are people people are Judgy
I'm not hurting anybody I'm not doing their

husbands. You know.

37:42.44
Bruce Anthony

Um, yeah.

37:52.59
Olivia LaRue

Um, maybe I am but I'm not going to tell them.

37:52.65
Bruce Anthony

I was just get ready to ask that but I didn't
want to put it out there I didn't want to

say it What? what is the conversation like
with your kids in situations like that if

that's too personal. A question. Obviously
you don't have to answer that but I'm just

curious What what is that conversation. With
your kids um about what you do and if if you

get any type of parental backlash from other
people.

38:22.97
Olivia LaRue

So I have two boys and they're teenagers and
I feel like I'm extra blessed because I feel

like boys they are. There's just more chill
about things and they're chill about this.

38:38.50
Bruce Anthony

Um, man.

38:41.21
Olivia LaRue

Um, I told him I'm a sex therapist and that's
my job. You know they want to know more about

my work now that they're getting older and
I feed them little bits that are humorous

and or come with a lesson about how to talk
to women.

38:56.91
Bruce Anthony

A.

38:59.67
Olivia LaRue

Like just the other day that one of them caught
me looking at my phone and making a face like

ah you know and they wanted to know why and
I'm like persons being rude to me and using

rude language. Don't don't treat women like
that you know and that seems to be good enough

now. So.

39:09.50
Bruce Anthony

Here.

39:17.60
Bruce Anthony

May he.

39:17.67
Olivia LaRue

I Can't see the future. Hopefully they won't
hate me but I'm paying the bills. They have

a nice warm house. They have a nice car. All
the things that they want and if they can't

understand that.

39:25.80
Bruce Anthony

A.

39:35.10
Bruce Anthony

How is your relationship with them. It seems
like just from your description that you guys

are close.

39:35.52
Olivia LaRue

I Don't know what to tell him.

39:44.50
Olivia LaRue

Overre super close I mean they're Mama's boys
they're they're Mama's boys for sure I love

my boys I'm a Mama bear like do not get between
me and my kids I do this for them.

39:53.16
Bruce Anthony

Um, right man if right.

40:00.63
Olivia LaRue

I Mean yeah I get some satisfaction out of
it Sure I love I Love validation and all that

stuff but really at the end of the day I'm
doing this for them because if you remember

I was a chef you were in the food industry
long hours tired it comes with a whole host

of problems being in that industry I was never
home.

40:05.80
Bruce Anthony

Um, right? Yes, yes, it does.

40:20.16
Olivia LaRue

It's not a good industry for a mom with two
young kids this way I get to be home with

them more I get to drive them around to all
their things you know I work 2 hours a day

and I make what other people make in a week.
It's.

40:21.70
Bruce Anthony

There.

40:35.58
Bruce Anthony

They nothing wrong with that. So you said
something earlier. Yeah I think you said something

earlier. You have a podcast promote your podcast
right now. Oh I thought you said oh okay,

you just own people. Okay I thought you said
you had a podcast and I was like that.

40:37.42
Olivia LaRue

And I think I'm just being smart. Go for it.

40:45.58
Olivia LaRue

Um, oh I don't have a podcast I'm just on
people podcast. They.

40:55.14
Bruce Anthony

Didn't come up in my research but you brought
it up. So let me let me go ahead and promote

that for you. But.

40:57.67
Olivia LaRue

Thank you will you go on my website. You'll
see all the other podcasts I was on but this

one is really good like.

41:03.60
Bruce Anthony

Speaking of which perfect segue you brand.
You're branded as the wild West Milf Can you

tell me a little bit about how you develop
that brand and what it means to you.

41:09.70
Olivia LaRue

Move on.

41:18.82
Olivia LaRue

Sure thanks for asking. Um I love the wild
west I love the the vision that it gives me

and the fantasy and iconography and you know
side note like Nevada. Like any gold rush

town the churches the schools the community
centers. They were all built and funded by

prostitutes. Hello you get a bunch of minors
coming out to the middle of nowhere frontier

who do you think is going to follow them the
hookers and then who gets all the money.

41:43.26
Bruce Anthony

Okay, oh.

41:55.25
Olivia LaRue

Hookers and then they have kids where the
kids gonna go somebody needs to build the

schools. The miners aren't going to do it.
You know it makes sense right? So I'm kind

of piggybacking off of that historical reference.
But also I am a milf like I am not a lot of

things.

41:55.46
Bruce Anthony

Many here.

42:02.47
Bruce Anthony

Um, ah yeah.

42:07.27
Bruce Anthony

Okay.

42:13.29
Bruce Anthony

Yeah, the.

42:14.19
Olivia LaRue

But I am a myself so I'm definitely going
to double down on what I am plus I like Cowboy

Cowboy hats and Turquoise and boots and Silver
I Love all that. So yes, it's kind of easy.

42:25.90
Bruce Anthony

Okay, um, yeah, that is and and and while
we're on that can you go ahead and promote

your website and some of the some of the services
that you provide on your website so that all

my listeners.

42:43.61
Bruce Anthony

And go ahead and and go there and check that
out.

42:44.12
Olivia LaRue

Oh thank you Bruce I totally would love to.
It's wwwdot. Live larue.comlivlarue live larue

and on that website you will see pictures
of me. You will get to read testimonials from

other clients and you'll get my blog which
is full of all kinds of entertaining anecdotes

but the services I offer besides companionship
are new hobbyist consultations. So a hobbyist

is a client and lots of times. Ah, men don't
know how to hire an escort They don't know

the right way to do it which I understand
it is super scary to do so I will help them

I will walk them through that and I'll get
them hooked up with the right channels. The

right ways to do things the lexicon you know
I'll even find them some girls that might

be good matches for them. I'll also mentor
new escorts like we talked about earlier that's

on a percentage or hourly depending on how
we set it up.

43:48.81
Bruce Anthony

A.

43:57.85
Olivia LaRue

And um, what else? Well besides all the other
businesses I have that's pretty much it companionship

mentoring and consultation. Yeah I don't do
cam I Just this is about as virtual as I get

right here.

44:04.30
Bruce Anthony

Okay, all right.

44:12.37
Bruce Anthony

Okay, well once again I'm thankful that you
got this virtue with me so that way we could

do this interview. Um, so in your opinion
what are steps that can be taken to make sex

work.

44:28.56
Bruce Anthony

More socially acceptable because we've already
talked about how we can make sex work safer.

How do we make it more socially acceptable.
What can we do to change. Ah I'm not goingnna

say what I was Goingnna say I'm I'm not gonna
put. Yeah I'm not gonna say what I was gonna

say but there's a certain group of people.

44:32.21
Olivia LaRue

M.

44:43.31
Olivia LaRue

That's okay, yes.

44:47.82
Bruce Anthony

That obviously are extremely against sex work.
But and I'm not going to brand them right

now. But how do we make this more socially
acceptable um to the masses.

44:59.00
Olivia LaRue

Thanks for asking? Yeah I feel like it's heading
in that direction with the only fans and the

the cam artists and you know porn hub and
the virtual world that we live in is exposing.

What used to be in the dark but we still lack.
Um, organized Health Care. You know we we

lack acceptance like you like you said I don't
know the steps that.

45:19.17
Bruce Anthony

Here.

45:37.35
Olivia LaRue

We can take to change society's idea. It's
so ingrained in us. It's in the it's in the

bible. You know it's thousands of years old
that a woman shouldn't sell her body. It's

going to be hard to change that. But we can
just be nicer to people. You know you just

be nice.

45:58.40
Bruce Anthony

That's that's the running theme in this podcast
in all of my episodes can we just be nicer

to people and and besides sex work is as they
say the oldest occupation.

46:10.28
Olivia LaRue

That's right. Sex work is the oldest profession.
It's not going anywhere people that do it

if they enjoy it. It's not hurting. Anybody.

46:13.64
Bruce Anthony

Um, next.

46:21.61
Bruce Anthony

Um, right.

46:21.74
Olivia LaRue

Now there is a whole industry that does hurt
people. We can talk about that trafficking

if you want you know that's bad. That's bad.
Bad bad.

46:27.28
Bruce Anthony

Well, a lot of people will throw the 2 together
right? like a lot of people will say the people

that are against um, legalizing let's say
prostitution right? like like because because

a lot of sex work is is already legal like.

46:31.65
Olivia LaRue

Is.

46:39.84
Olivia LaRue

And.

46:45.75
Bruce Anthony

As you like ah laid it out. Dancing is already
legal. Only fans is legal like a lot of it's

already legal. We're talking specifically
prostitution which isn't um, legal anywhere

else except for an in Nevada correct. Okay,
um, and and a lot of people that that will

say that.

46:57.99
Olivia LaRue

Okay.

47:05.52
Bruce Anthony

That that it shouldn't be socially acceptable
is because of trafficking I don't know if

you have any because you're in it I don't
know if you have any raw numbers but Justin

in where you are is that something that is
prevalent.

47:21.26
Olivia LaRue

I Feel like where I am it might not be as
prevalent as in other places where sex work

is frowned upon heavily I don't think that
making sex work illegal does anything.

47:31.22
Bruce Anthony

Are here.

47:40.87
Olivia LaRue

To stop sex trafficking.

47:41.75
Bruce Anthony

So even if we made it legal. There would still
be sex trafficking.

47:46.24
Olivia LaRue

If we made it legal. It might have an effect
on sex trafficking I don't know I am not a

sex trafficking expert. You know I wish I
wish I had a better answer for you I prefer

to live in like this.

47:53.79
Bruce Anthony

M.

48:00.74
Bruce Anthony

That's okay.

48:05.47
Olivia LaRue

Love and light world and I don't go into the
darkness so much but I know it's there. Ah,

and it's sad. It's super sad I think that
the like in 2018 they passed legislature that

made. Um.

48:07.20
Bruce Anthony

Yeah.

48:13.40
Bruce Anthony

There.

48:25.66
Olivia LaRue

Websites liable for what they advertise so
all the escort ad websites got shut down and

they did that to prevent sex trafficking I
feel like all that did was send sex trafficking

underground.

48:32.86
Bruce Anthony

Um.

48:42.76
Olivia LaRue

And upset a lot of legal independent escorts
that couldn't advertise anymore. So I just

don't know if we're going about it the right
way I'm open to learning more.

48:45.85
Bruce Anthony

A.

48:55.59
Bruce Anthony

This is Bruce Anthony's argument. What I'm
about to say does not apply to miss Olivia

Larue when we made alcohol illegal it propped
up organized crime.

49:12.91
Olivia LaRue

Moving.

49:15.58
Bruce Anthony

It caused Violence. We saw you know what?
let's just go ahead and make this alcohol

legal again and then all of a sudden you saw
an extreme reduction in crime because you

took out the criminality in it as you see
a sweeping change of drug laws changing and

more and more states. Making Marijuana Legal
You see the drug traffickers really aren't

trapped. They're still involved in it but
the violence for Marijuana has decreased if

you made sex work more specifically prostitution.
Legal.

49:35.20
Olivia LaRue

Um.

49:53.52
Bruce Anthony

There are still going to be traffickers just
like there's still people who sell alcohol

illegal just like there's still people who
sell cigarettes illegally um, just like there's

still people in in areas where there is legal
marijuana that still sell ah sell marijuana

illegally because there's steps you need to
go to to be able to sell legally They're always

gonna be a criminality element but you reduce
the violence associated with it when you legalize

it. That's just my little 2 sets everybody
knows I like to get on my soapbox and talk

that ish. But that's just the way I feel and.
Once again, these are my opinions not miss

Olivia Larue just 1 make that clear but okay
was she seconded. She second everything I

just said we go roll with that. Um, okay,
so this.

50:34.54
Olivia LaRue

Well I second that yeah I'll co-sign that.
That was very eloquent by the way.

50:49.30
Bruce Anthony

Ah, thank you sometimes I got away with words
every now and then every 2 fridays it works

out for me. Um, so what is some advice that
you give to people that are entering or consider

entering.

51:01.76
Olivia LaRue

This is.

51:07.61
Bruce Anthony

The sex work industry. What does that? What
does that do.

51:09.82
Olivia LaRue

Don't be desperate rule number one. It's hard
not to be desperate sometimes when we are

desperate we make decisions out of desperation
and they are not always in our best interest

and we put ourselves in the dangerous.

51:26.35
Bruce Anthony

A.

51:27.26
Olivia LaRue

Situations or we settle for less than what
we're worth and we feel bad about ourselves

later that's rule number 1

51:36.76
Bruce Anthony

Okay, yes I can definitely tell I can definitely
tell you That's not just sex work I'm I'm

a personal trainer and and every now and then
that I put my dollar limit lower than what

it should be and I'm like I'm wasting my time
here. This is not what I should have done

but back to um.

51:52.71
Olivia LaRue

Yep, yes, well rule number 2 is don't count
the money until it's in your hand. Okay, because

there's plenty of future trip and oh I'm gonna
this guy made a point with me for tomorrow

I'm going to use that money to pay my rent.

51:53.68
Bruce Anthony

More advice for sex workers. A.

52:10.28
Olivia LaRue

Oh what happens when he cancels don't count
the money till it's in your hands. Yeah, and

my rule number 3 is kind of dated and it makes
me sound old. Um, but I'm going to say it

anyway, we are like evil can evil.

52:15.31
Bruce Anthony

Don't count the money to your hand. Okay,
all right.

52:28.21
Olivia LaRue

And we get paid for the attempt you do not
need to bust your back trying to make a man

do something that he can't do or won't do.

52:38.30
Bruce Anthony

Orgasm Huh with it. Well, it's it's a time
limit though, right? So but but I guess I

guess people would take pride in their work.
Um.

52:44.40
Olivia LaRue

Yeah. Um, sure.

52:54.72
Bruce Anthony

And want to make sure that the person is satisfied
I I don't even think that's just work I think

that's just in personal life too. So I guess
there would be something mental about I'm

going to make this happen. Ah okay.

52:59.88
Olivia LaRue

Inhale.

53:06.10
Olivia LaRue

Yeah, and they're counting on that and there's
people. There's clients who count on that

mentality and then use it against us so they
can have an hour long blowjob.

53:20.90
Bruce Anthony

Hit fight what time out Mom I'm sorry ah Mom
Mom's listening I'm sorry I've had more than

just a few situations where I've been.

53:30.20
Olivia LaRue

Um.

53:34.40
Olivia LaRue

Um.

53:38.89
Bruce Anthony

Had situations like that and I never wanted
it to last for an hour I don't that seems

painful. Ah oh that's a question that I have
how how often are situations where guys are

just making themselves do things that is actually
detrimental to them like.

53:40.82
Olivia LaRue

And.

53:57.20
Bruce Anthony

Painful.

53:59.10
Olivia LaRue

Um, yeah, that happens that's the thing depends
on my mood.

54:00.94
Bruce Anthony

What do you say to them and and that in that
moment have okay give me example of a good

mood and a bad mood.

54:15.79
Olivia LaRue

Um I don't know if we're talking about the
same thing right now. But if if they're holding

back on purpose so that we're talking about
or.

54:20.91
Bruce Anthony

No well maybe not holding back but maybe just
like you said rule number 3 don't break your

back to try and make them accomplish something
well on the flip side to that the the flip

side is if the guy can't right? He's gonna
keep.

54:34.58
Olivia LaRue

Ah.

54:39.99
Bruce Anthony

Going and it's yeah.

54:40.40
Olivia LaRue

And then just wagging away. Yeah, um, well
I have my sex therapy training that I like

am I lean on but you know if I didn't have
that I would it's something along the lines

of honey. Let's just take a break. Let's just
relax just relax just relax.

54:56.90
Bruce Anthony

Um.

54:57.46
Olivia LaRue

Let me give you a backgroundrop you know it's
okay, it's okay, if it's not going to happen.

It's like you do it 9 times out of 10 It's
because they were going to come in like the

first 30 seconds but then they held back and
now they can't come at all. That's how it

goes.

54:59.33
Bruce Anthony

Are.

55:13.36
Bruce Anthony

Oh.

55:17.36
Olivia LaRue

And it's like don't do that. We're not going
to leave. You know we'll still be here and

maybe we can do it again.

55:23.42
Bruce Anthony

Oh so it's it's a time. It's not a act the
pencilma girl. Okay, so so the girl could

say no right? That's been enough for today
you you got what you wanted I'm out.

55:29.90
Olivia LaRue

It depends on the girl mm.

55:38.92
Olivia LaRue

Yeah, they could yeah.

55:42.38
Bruce Anthony

Okay, that that's been interesting. Do you
have anything to add that that we didn't touch

on during the during the conversation I've
taken up too much of your time but this is

this is the conversation that I've been eager.

55:55.58
Olivia LaRue

Um, no, you're good.

56:01.91
Bruce Anthony

To to talk about. So.

56:06.90
Olivia LaRue

For both clients and providers hobbyists and
escorts. It's all about doing your research.

That's my advice. Do your research. There's
planning out there now when I started there

wasn't as much out there. Um.

56:18.14
Bruce Anthony

And.

56:21.50
Olivia LaRue

But there's plenty out there now. There's
really no excuse not to do your research if

you're getting ripped off. It's because you
didn't do your research. There's lots of scam

artists. You know there's girls that demand
a deposit and then they just like ghost you.

56:31.21
Bruce Anthony

Um, what ripped off as in. Yeah.

56:39.47
Bruce Anthony

A.

56:41.34
Olivia LaRue

Like I ask for a deposit but you can read
on my website and you can go online off my

website and you can see I'm 5 stars like if
I were ripping people off I wouldn't have

5 stars.

56:49.58
Bruce Anthony

Exactly yeah.

56:52.96
Olivia LaRue

But I'm not driving 2 hours to South Lake
tahoe to show up at a place that isn't actually

there. You know what I mean. So yeah, you
got to put a little skin in the game here.

But that's just me but you know girls get
scammed guys get scamed. We just do your research

you know, just do your research.

56:58.73
Bruce Anthony

Um, yeah, yeah, right.

57:08.41
Bruce Anthony

Just do your research there. Oh that's right?
and um and what's that website again. That's

where you can get all of your.

57:10.86
Olivia LaRue

Or call me.

57:16.21
Olivia LaRue

Um, live laroo.com all of your advice all
of your companionship needs. Met if everything

I'm here for you.

57:28.84
Bruce Anthony

Miss Olivia Larue I want to thank you I want
to thank you one for giving me the time cause

this went longer. Um than I originally anticipated
but it was such a good conversation and and

I appreciate you sticking in here with me
for this conversation. I appreciate you. Doing

this interview and people y'all should have
learned this is this was a lot of information

about an industry that's growing that's becoming
more and more mainstream and.

57:57.17
Olivia LaRue

Moving.

58:01.85
Bruce Anthony

Get your mind not the guthers. This is all
good stuff Now don't know if I agreed with

you a lot of stuff money came buy you love
just like money came buy you. It can put it

down payment on happiness.

58:03.42
Olivia LaRue

Money can buy you less.

58:17.74
Olivia LaRue

Sure I you know I have love for all my clients
Even if it's just for an hour.

58:18.15
Bruce Anthony

But love and it can buy you lust how about
that.

58:28.51
Bruce Anthony

Um, thank you again I Really really appreciate
it.

18:42.22
Bruce Anthony

So in this interview Olivia told us a little
bit more about a personal life. We know that

she's a mother that takes damn good care of
her kids. Ah that provides for her her children

that has honest conversations with her sons.
And that's really dope. Um I commend her on

having that type of relationship. It's so
funny because you know I have I know people

that have kids and I know people who have
kids at different ages and I'm not a parent.

So I can't comment on what it's like being
a parent I can only imagine what type of parent

that I would be because I remember what type
of parents with my that my parents were and

my parents were younger right? They had me
at a very young age. My mom was 23 when I

was born. She was born a day before me my
birthday is a day after my mom's. My dad was

21 about to turn 22 they were kids they were
in college they were kids part of the benefit

of having young parents is. They're not that
far removed from the stuff that you're going

through so that they're able to. Talk to you
about things and and and still relate to you

on some way I have cousins and a goddaughter
who's about the same age difference as I am

to my parents and the conversations I had
with them granted that not my kids is the

closest thing that I have to kids.

20:08.41
Bruce Anthony

They're not my kids but the conversation that
we have is very candid so I would imagine

being the product of 2 people who had very
candid conversations with me growing up and

having candid conversations with um. My goddaughter
and my younger cousins that I would be a parent

that would have candid conversations and when
you have those type of conversations your

kids have come to you and can talk to you
about about stuff then they won't kids are

still gonna hide things from you right? but.
The more open you are as a parent to not reject

them or shut them down for conversations that
they want to have the more open they are going

to be to talk to you so Olivia saying that
hey when her sons ask her a question. She's

opening up and and telling them what's going
on. And that's dope and there's still that

fear there's a fear I talked to mom the fear
that Olivia has about what her kids will think

about her I I don't really I didn't say this
in an interview and I regret not saying in

an interview. But I'm gonna say it now because
I know ol le you'll be watching that don't

I don't think that has anything to do with
what you do for a living at all I think that's

what all parents fear right.

21:30.64
Bruce Anthony

Is that in relationship that they have with
their children and are their children going

to think that they did a good job and I know
this personally because I have conversations

with my parents and that is something often
that they will come to me and they will say

well I made a mistake here and made a mistake
here I hope you don't don't hold that against

me and I say to my parents all the time look.
I reconcile with the fact that you were not

perfect because you're a human being and human
beings are not perfect. So there's no reason

why any child once they grow up to become
adult should ever think that their parents

are perfect. People aren't perfect, but that
doesn't mean that the parents didn't do a

good job my parents did a good job they did
a good job and Olivia's doing a good job.

Olivia's doing a great job and the fact that
she has to deal with the Bs judginess of other

people. Ah, bothers me but that's also I want
to coin what she said can't we all just be

nicer I mean I don't want it to I don't want
to bring ah I don't want to bring can't we

all just get along in there. But yeah, like
can't we just be decent human beings to each

other. Right? No matter what you believe in
as far as religion or spirituality or if you

even believe in any of that stuff. All of
it reduced to just be decent to your next

person and Olivia is one of the most decent
people that I've met.

23:07.44
Bruce Anthony

Ah, ah like I said in previous segments I'm
really proud of this interview I'm really

thankful that Olivia took the time this was
longer than most of my interviews. That's

the reason why I broke it down into 2 parts
because it was just.

23:22.99
Bruce Anthony

Conversation and I had a list of questions
and I got to all of the questions I wanted

to get to but as she said something more questions
and like wait a minute hold on I got to follow

up with this one? Um, so I hope you guys enjoyed
it once again I told you there's always an

overarching thing to. All of my podcasts and
as you've gotten to know me this is over 30

podcasts now. Even if you haven't listened
to all of them you and you listen to the majority

of them. You know what the theme is being
decent and learning and being. Introducing

yourself to different things in life and like
I said I like interviewing interesting people

that is my niche niche that is what I like
to do I like to talk to interesting people

and find out about their lives. And how they
got to where they are and Olivia has a fascinating

life. Ah, once again I am thankful for the
interview and I'm going to stop rambling because

that's what I'm doing right now but that's
okay. That's okay because that's the reason

why y'all come here and to listen to me I
might I might go off tang a little bit but

I'll bring it all back. So yeah, yeah, this
is a good interview I'm proud of it I hope

youall learn something and got something out
of it and until next time 

I'm a holla.

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Olivia LaRue

Courtesan and Madame

Hi! I am Olivia LaRue, legal Madame and Independent Courtesan; residing in Northern Nevada- the land of legal everything! I am an advocate and educator for safe sex work. I mentor new escorts in best practices and safety. My brand is Wild West MILF. I am also a certified sex therapist working as a surrogate partner and relationship/intimacy coach. Additionally I practice metaphysical healing arts and sex magic.
My motto is “Empowerment, NOT Exploitation”. I have been in this business for 10 years. I’m also a married mother of 2!. I have clients all over the USA and internationally. Sex work is the oldest profession for a reason. It’s not going away. Someone has to do it and it’s better for everyone if they enjoy it!

Sex work is a hilarious and engaging topic to discuss. People seem to be fascinated by it. I spend hours talking about this industry to strangers I meet on airplanes and in other random places. Even though it is the 21st century, prostitution is still seen as a taboo. Even though people say they are sex positive, they still get a little squeamish and embarrassed by their own fascination by sex work. I love the juxtaposition of “hush hush guilty pleasure” and “loud and proud open-ness” that discussing sex work fosters! Please feel free to reach out to me via email or text for a deeper conversation. xoxo!